APU results Just Cause 3

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Interesting results in this game. game.gpu results

Iris pro destroys fastest AMD apu, while even HD530 is faster, especially minumums. Have a feeling the AMD apus are being held back by the cpu.

Of course, overall it just shows how inadequate APUs really are for any kind of serious gaming. Even at 720p only iris pro is able to average 30FPS.
 

xorbe

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Isn't dual-die Iris Pro w/128MB dedicated eDRAM a step beyond typical integrated graphics? You can't really draw a conclusion vs typical amd apu / intel hd that way.
 

ShintaiDK

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Wow, APUs are just trashed due to the weak CPU. Guess it wasn't a prescripted benchmark they could get away with.


Stop the trolling before I stop you.


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Enigmoid

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I hate how their bar lengths seem arbitrary. Why is 22 fps on the 4770K given a longer bar than 27 fps on the 7870k?
 

Vesku

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CPU physics meshes terribly with AMD's Bulldozer derived products and their weak FPU. Has AMD bothered to port a physics engine into OpenCL yet?
 
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the minimums?

Yea, I agree the bars are deceptive in a way, but they seem to add the minimum and average together. The minimum is absolutely horrible on the AMD systems. It would be interesting to see whether that is just one really terrible drop of if they stutter badly during the entire game.
 

Phynaz

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Holy crap, is the mighty 7870K really getting 2fps? That's not a mistake??
 

Phynaz

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Yea, I agree the bars are deceptive in a way, but they seem to add the minimum and average together. The minimum is absolutely horrible on the AMD systems. It would be interesting to see whether that is just one really terrible drop of if they stutter badly during the entire game.

Watch the (AMD sponsored) video. It's a stuttering, pausing mess.
 

swilli89

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Wow, APUs are just trashed due to the weak CPU. Guess it wasn't a prescripted benchmark they could get away with.

Haha dude how do you get away with these remarks in every single thread? Most negative person in the entire forum when it comes to AMD.


Calling out other members will not earn you any positive points here. Bye

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monstercameron

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Haha dude how do you get away with these remarks in every single thread? Most negative person in the entire forum when it comes to AMD.

wouldnt be surprised if he has some kind of relationship with the mods here. Alot of other people have had many infractions yet it doesnt get any.

Moderator callouts are not tolerated here. Obviously YOU KNOW the forum rules.

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moonbogg

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AMD crap won't even run the game hardly. Intel was doing pretty great though. You could actually play a casual game every once in a while with the Intel chip.
 

itsmydamnation

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CPU physics meshes terribly with AMD's Bulldozer derived products and their weak FPU. Has AMD bothered to port a physics engine into OpenCL yet?

huh the FPU isn't weak at all, they have many other bottlenecks before FPU, almost everything still targets some form of SSE, let alone 128bit avx(which CON core is still fine at), let alone 256bit avx so no benefit to intel from 256bit data paths.
 

2is

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huh the FPU isn't weak at all, they have many other bottlenecks before FPU, almost everything still targets some form of SSE, let alone 128bit avx(which CON core is still fine at), let alone 256bit avx so no benefit to intel from 256bit data paths.

Something is clearly quite weak. What is it in your opinion?
 

TheELF

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Something is clearly quite weak. What is it in your opinion?
It's probably the same reason why their newer fallout 4 test runs much slower on nvidias ... they screwed something up.

From what you can see on the video the APU gets slowdowns in completely light scenarios like at 2:30 where the hero is completely alone looking at a rock-face ,there is nothing there to tax either cpu or gpu.
 

Azix

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Did they run this test with anything but 720p low settings? if a person plans to game and they have a 1080p monitor/screen for example, would the AMD still be putting out the same performance once the CPU is no longer the bottleneck?

Problem could be system ram/CPU. they say 2666 RAM but is it running at that for AMD?

The chart is messed up and there really is no reason for it to be that way. A charting software would not do that for sure so someone messed up with it. Even the iris pro 6200 is beyond where it should be.

ultimately you aren't going to be comparing these directly. one is almost 3 x the cost of the other.
 

2is

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Did they run this test with anything but 720p low settings? if a person plans to game and they have a 1080p monitor/screen for example, would the AMD still be putting out the same performance once the CPU is no longer the bottleneck?

Problem could be system ram/CPU. they say 2666 RAM but is it running at that for AMD?

The chart is messed up and there really is no reason for it to be that way. A charting software would not do that for sure so someone messed up with it. Even the iris pro 6200 is beyond where it should be.

ultimately you aren't going to be comparing these directly. one is almost 3 x the cost of the other.

Increasing the demand on anything will not yield in better performance. If it's a CPU bottleneck and you increase settings, you are not reducing CPU load, you're merely putting an additional load on the GPU the CPU load will be there all the same. The best you can hope to do if you have GPU power to spare, is achieve better visuals without losing any additional performance, but you will not gain performance.

EDIT: Also, as it relates to integrated graphics, increasing any settings, be it a GPU loading or CPU loading one, will most certainly reduce performance because both the CPU and GPU have a shared resource, that being memory bandwidth. edram equipped IGP's go a long way to alleviate this, so it would likely be even more advantageous for Intel over AMD.
 
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USER8000

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From what you can see on the video the APU gets slowdowns in completely light scenarios like at 2:30 where the hero is completely alone looking at a rock-face ,there is nothing there to tax either cpu or gpu.

LMAO,so the poor minimums are in a place with virtually no load?

Sounds like a bug.
 
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