APU13- AMD Kaveri details- 856Gflops, 3.7Ghz CPU,720Mhz GPU

[inf64]

Linky

Advanced Micro Devices will ship its next-generation Kaveri architecture by January, executives said Monday evening.
Specifically, desktop availability will take place on January 14, executives said at AMD’s APU13 conferences on Monday. Chips for notebooks, servers, and embedded systems will follow later in the year, executives said.
AMD executives also announced the performance of the Kaveri—856 gigaflops. A diagram displayed by AMD appears to show two “Steamroller” CPU cores and eight Radeon graphics cores. AMD executives did not formerly disclose how fast the chips would run, nor how much they would cost. But a footnote on a presentation slide appears to show the Kaveri’s product name (the AMD A10-7850K) with a note that that figure assumes four 3.7GHz CPU cores, as well as 512 GPUs running at 720MHz.

....

Oh and lookie Kaveri has True Audio dedicated block on-die . I remember one user of this forum who said it was a "fake" when commenting on TrueAudio in Kaveri news piece

3.7Ghz on the CPU side is higher than I expected, which is nice. GPU side on the other hand is kinda of letdown in my opinion as 720Mhz is pretty low. Maybe AMD knew they will be BW limited in the end so they have found a balance where the GPU clocks stop to matter much without additional BW.

 

[Vesku]

AMD has been pretty good about finding the power/perf sweet spot for their APU graphics. I imagine you are correct in thinking you won't get much more out of the iGP unless you run 2000+ MHz memory.

FYI, pretty sure that diagram is of their 4 Steamroller cores. Still using the CMT design so 2 modules with 2 integer cores each.

 

[mikk]

AMD claimed 1050 Gflops for Kaveri months ago. 856 Gflops is much lower than expected.

 

[inf64]

Yes because the GPU clocks are much lower. Richland goes up to 844Mhz while Kaveri goes up to 720Mhz ( maybe more but let's assume 720Mhz is the max). It doesn't matter much as AMD has much better frame pacing driver solution now and pairing Kaveri with entry level GCN(Hawaii included if/when it comes) will be a winner for entry level gaming system segment.

I have found this just now. Maybe a clue of Kaveri's die size? Could 2013 denote resized image of Richland maybe? It's a bit confusing.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Heh...Broadwell's highest configuration is going to mop the floor with this one. Ouch.

 

[inf64]

How do you know that exactly?

 

[monstercameron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAM2zYNqko

kaveri vs i7-4770k+gt630

kaveri gpu is ~2x gt630 so that is well within the 720p gaming proficiency zone! and 1080p for older titles.

 

[inf64]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAM2zYNqko

kaveri vs i7-4770k+gt630

kaveri gpu is ~2x gt630 so that is well within the 720p gaming proficiency zone! and 1080p for older titles.

Ouch indeed!

 

[monstercameron]

Free hsa!

http://openjdk.java.net/projects/sumatra/
java on the gpu!

This primary goal of this project is to enable Java applications to take advantage of graphics processing units (GPUs) and accelerated processing units (APUs)--whether they are discrete devices or integrated with a CPU--to improve performance.

We expect the initial focus to be on the Hotspot JVM, enabling code generation, runtime support and garbage collection on GPUs. Once basic capabilities are in place in the JVM, we will also examine how to best expose GPU support to application and/or library developers, initially leveraging the new Java 8 Lambda language and library features. As the project progress, we may identify challenges with the Java API and constructs which may lead to new language, JVM or library extensions that will need standardization under the JCP process. While the Java language is an obvious focus, we also anticipate that this project will provide guidance for other JVM-hosted languages such as JavaScript/Nashorn, Scala and JRuby.

their server play?

 

[SiliconWars]

Heh...Broadwell's highest configuration is going to mop the floor with this one. Ouch.

Yeah wake us up in 2015 and we'll see how that one works out.

Going for 2 infractions in one night ?
Markfw900

 

[Asterox]

Yes because the GPU clocks are much lower. Richland goes up to 844Mhz while Kaveri goes up to 720Mhz ( maybe more but let's assume 720Mhz is the max). It doesn't matter much as AMD has much better frame pacing driver solution now and pairing Kaveri with entry level GCN(Hawaii included if/when it comes) will be a winner for entry level gaming system segment.

I have found this just now. Maybe a clue of Kaveri's die size?

Ok Kaveri APU has Defoult GPU frequency at 720mhz, but again there is no problem because there is something what we call "overclocking" right. So in two or three moves, you have 800mhz GPU frequency or even more and that's resolved.

 

[SiliconWars]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAM2zYNqko

kaveri vs i7-4770k+gt630

kaveri gpu is ~2x gt630 so that is well within the 720p gaming proficiency zone! and 1080p for older titles.

2.5x faster than a GT 630. If we assume this is best case we're still looking at 50% worst case.

 

[monstercameron]

this gentleman decides to publish something
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7507/amd-kaveri-apu-launch-details-desktop-january-14th

anyway, do you guys thinks it is safe for AMD to partner with such a divisive company as oracle?

 

[Roland00Address]

Know what is really sad, if steamroller is 512 gcn cores at 720 mhz why then did they just phase out the 7750 which was 512 gcn cores at 800 mhz? That was near perfect symmetry for crossfire (assuming that the memory speed was not holding the card back.)

Now the R7 250 replaced the 7750, it is an ontario gpu at 384 gcn cores at 1050 mhz. So you get 75% of the cores of the 7750, but 31% more clock speed. So it could be a good replacement if the drivers are up to snuff.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yeah wake us up in 2015 and we'll see how that one works out.

Lies and misinformation characterize almost every one of your posts, SiliconWars, at least with respect to sticking to the facts re: Intel.

Broadwell goes into HVM during Q1 2014 for launch likely 1 year from Haswell, implying June launch.

Hardly 2015, although keep spinning, buddy.

 

[LogOver]

I'm not sure if this thing is faster than iris pro... Let alone broadwell.

 

[SiliconWars]

Lies and misinformation characterize almost every one of your posts, SiliconWars, at least with respect to sticking to the facts re: Intel.

Broadwell goes into HVM during Q1 2014 for launch likely 1 year from Haswell, implying June launch.

Hardly 2015, although keep spinning, buddy.

Yeah like I said, we'll see. Now evidence of your "mop the floor" BS or do us all a favour and find some other thread to troll.


We have all had it with your insults. calm down.
Markfw900
Anandtech Moderator.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I'm not sure if this thing is faster than iris pro... Let alone broadwell.

As far as theoretical FLOPS goes, no it's not. Iris Pro's GPU alone is worth 832 GFlops, while the CPU portion (quad cores) adds enough to push it well over the 1 TFlop mark.

AMD's much vaunted graphics lead has now largely evaporated and with the 2014 Intel lineup, AMD will be a clear #2 in graphics.

Not unexpected, but it's nice to see evidence that what many of us have been predicting for quite some time finally playing out.

 

[Fox5]

Aw, I was expecting Kaveri to be able to take on the consoles in its highest end configuration.

At the very least, how about a 10-12CU Kaveri with GDDR5?

 

[monstercameron]

I'm not sure if this thing is faster than iris pro... Let alone broadwell.

that is a good question indeed, but again there is a large gap between em.

it would be interesting to see if amd is holding the hex core, 13 cu apu for CES...1 can only dream.

 

[Vesku]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAM2zYNqko

kaveri vs i7-4770k+gt630

kaveri gpu is ~2x gt630 so that is well within the 720p gaming proficiency zone! and 1080p for older titles.

Not even the mantle version according to the speaker, interesting.

 

[SiliconWars]

I'm not sure if this thing is faster than iris pro... Let alone broadwell.

You're not sure if 2.5x faster than the GT 630, which is Iris Pro level, is faster than Iris Pro?

 

[Roland00Address]

How hard would it be for AMD to release a dual apu system without doing a new mask? 4 modules, 8 cores, and double the gcn shaders.

New Kaveri
512 gcn cores at 720 mhz (0.74 Terraflops on the GPU only)
XBOX One
768 gcn cores at 853 mhz (1.31 Terraflops on the GPU only)
Double New Kaveri (if this is possible?)
1024 gcn cores at 720 mhz (1.68 Terraflops on the GPU only)
PS4
1152 gcn cores at 800 mhz (1.84 Terraflops on the GPU only)

 

[monstercameron]

You're not sure if 2.5x faster than the GT 630, which is Iris Pro level, is faster than Iris Pro?

yeah, it should at the very minimum [intel has lesscpu overhead and more memory bandwidth]
be very competitive with iris pro with crystal well

7750 ddr3 performance
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2012/msi_radeon_hd_7750_2gb_ddr3_test/index23.php

 

[SiliconWars]

Certainly at 1080p, the Iris Pro can't even beat a 630 GT.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/intel-iris-pro-5200-grafik-im-test/11/