P Diddy told me in the form of a rap song that there's gonna be a draft.
I even got a draft card from Rock the Vote
P Diddy told me in the form of a rap song that there's gonna be a draft.Originally posted by: Chadder007
OMG!! And I hear its only going to be a Draft using Cell phone only users that are 18-24!!! :QOriginally posted by: b0mbrman
I bet Bush will say he didn't poison Arafat...but Bush lied and invaded Iraq...so you can never be too sure.Originally posted by: Chadder007
I Blame Bush
Also, there might be a draft.
Originally posted by: Genx87
no idea about the % but it was far far from 95%
4. Land Area of Palestine
The initial area of the Palestinian state would comprise about 73% of the land area of the West Bank and all of Gaza. The West Bank would be divided by the road from Jerusalem to the Dead Sea and a corridor on either side of it. This would form two relatively large Palestinian areas and one small enclave surrounding Jericho. The three areas would be joined by a free passage without checkpoints, but the safe passage could be closed by Israel in case of emergency. According to Palestinian sources, there would be another division between the area north of the Ariel and Shilo settlements along the trans-Shomron highway built by Israel.
In later stages (10-25 years) Israel would cede additional areas, particularly in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley, to bring the total area to slightly under 90% of the area of the West Bank (94% excluding greater Jerusalem).
Looks like it would end up about 90% though.
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
It seems like its something bad because they won't tell us whats wrong with him. If Arafat dies, it is going to get 50x worse.
then take a look at the issue of airspace, bordercontrol, water control, limitations of self defense, foreign affairs and so onOriginally posted by: Genx87
no idea about the % but it was far far from 95%
4. Land Area of Palestine
The initial area of the Palestinian state would comprise about 73% of the land area of the West Bank and all of Gaza. The West Bank would be divided by the road from Jerusalem to the Dead Sea and a corridor on either side of it. This would form two relatively large Palestinian areas and one small enclave surrounding Jericho. The three areas would be joined by a free passage without checkpoints, but the safe passage could be closed by Israel in case of emergency. According to Palestinian sources, there would be another division between the area north of the Ariel and Shilo settlements along the trans-Shomron highway built by Israel.
In later stages (10-25 years) Israel would cede additional areas, particularly in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley, to bring the total area to slightly under 90% of the area of the West Bank (94% excluding greater Jerusalem).
Looks like it would end up about 90% though.
Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont see how it could get worse. The guy was a roadblock to peace.
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
So then, he's not OFFICIALLY DEAD until he detonates ?
Where's the C-4 when we really need it ?
The problem with Arafat is that although he tried to reject terrorism in recent years, his long history made it impossible for the Israeli's or the Americans to trust anything he says. So there is the potential for things to get better with new Palestinian leadership.Originally posted by: BarneyFife
It seems like its something bad because they won't tell us whats wrong with him. If Arafat dies, it is going to get 50x worse.
Originally posted by: DT4K
The problem with Arafat is that although he tried to reject terrorism in recent years, his long history made it impossible for the Israeli's or the Americans to trust anything he says. So there is the potential for things to get better with new Palestinian leadership.Originally posted by: BarneyFife
It seems like its something bad because they won't tell us whats wrong with him. If Arafat dies, it is going to get 50x worse.
But it will depend on who emerges as the real political leader there. If it's somebody without long history of leading terrorism, then the likelihood of good faith negotiations is higher. If it ends up being someone who advocates attacks on women and children, then things will get bad fast.
Originally posted by: shinerburke
The good news of course is that soon Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao will have a new poker buddy.....and I'm not talking about cards......
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Don't remember when ( maybe 10 or more years ago ) but Arafat was offered 95% of what he wanted in the long negotiations with Israel at one point but he refused and walked out.
it was never 95%, read some of the old threads on this subject
Originally posted by: chess9
Arafat was offered 90% of a very nice large loaf and turned it down. His people are much worse off now than they would have been if he'd accepted the agreement Clinton worked out.
Now, with that fat slob Sharon puffing around the Middle East it'll be eternity before any decent result is achieved.
Arafat is almost at the top of my list of people the world would be better without. He's the Ace of Hearts in fact.
-Robert
Originally posted by: Valvoline6
Arafat and AIDS? This article was posted on the YaHoo message boards. He does have some of the symptoms.
then take a look at the issue of airspace, bordercontrol, water control, limitations of self defense, foreign affairs and so on
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Political leaders in Israel and the West Bank steeled themselves for the end of the Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) era as the vanguard of the Palestinian nationalist struggle for the past four decades lay brain dead in a Paris hospital.
Palestinian officials fiercely denied that Arafat had passed away after Israeli media reported that the 75-year-old had died.
But while French medical sources said Arafat was technically still alive, they added that he was "brain dead" and only breathing with the help of life support machines while in an irreversible coma.
Technically, Arafat is "not dead," one source told AFP on condition of confidentiality. But there was no hope of him leaving his vegetative state and recovering basic bodily functions such as breathing without assistance.
Such artificial care can be "extended for several days or several weeks thanks to the machines," the source said.
Israel's private Channel 2 network and army radio had reported that Arafat had been declared dead at a military hospital in Clamart, southwest of Paris.
But Azzam al-Ahmed, communications minister in the Palestinian cabinet and one of Arafat's closest allies, insisted news of his death was premature.
"It is wrong. If the president was dead, the whole world would know," he told AFP. "But it is true that he is a very critical condition."
Arafat was flown to Paris last Friday for treatment of a blood disorder after being airlifted from the compound in the West Bank town of Ramallah where he had been under effective Israeli house arrest for nearly three years.
Palestinian prime minister Ahmed Qorei had earlier tried to play down the seriousness of Arafat's condition, denying he was in a coma and insisting new test results had been positive.
Qorei had been attending emergency leadership meetings of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and the dominant Fatah (news - web sites) party. Both have been led by Arafat for some four decades, but were chaired Thursday by former premier Mahmud Abbas.
Hundreds of Fatah supporters brandished portraits of Arafat as they took to the streets of Gaza City late Thursday while prayers were said for his welfare.
"We pray to Almighty God for the swift recovery of our president Yasser Arafat so that he can return to his people in good health," said the imam at Gaza's Sheikh Zayid mosque.
Residents in Ramallah were glued to their television sets for updates on the town's famous resident.
"I can't bear the thought he will die for good. He's our national leader, the one and only," said 33-year-old Mohammed Ribhi as his eyes filled with tears.
Amid widespread fears that Arafat's death could trigger chaos on the streets of the West Bank and Gaza Strip (news - web sites), all members of the Palestinian Security services were placed on a state of alert Thursday.
"The security forces have been put on a state of alert and all members ordered to be on standby," one senior officer said.
"We have been told to prepare for any activity which is beyond the law and to protect the legitimacy of all the Palestinian institutions."
Signs of nerves on the Israeli side were also evident as troops in the occupied territories were placed on alert after Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz called a meeting in Tel Aviv attended by the heads of the country's security services.
Israeli public television, meanwhile, reported that army commanders were to urge the government to capitalise on Arafat's demise by working more closely with the Palestinians.
The army has drawn up plans, codenamed "New Page", to deal with all possible eventualities should Arafat die. But officers would also urge the government to coordinate its withdrawal of settlers and troops from the Gaza Strip (news - web sites), due to take place by the end of 2005, with Arafat's successors, the television said.
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) has refused all dealings with Arafat since coming to power in 2001, instead confining him to his West Bank headquarters until his dramatic airlift to Paris last Friday.
Arafat's death or permanent incapacitation has the potential to galvanise the Middle East peace process.
Sharon met Abbas on a number of occasions last year before a massive suicide bomb prompted Israel to freeze top-level contacts with the Palestinians.
Arafat has also been snubbed by US President George W. Bush (news - web sites). Asked for his reaction to the reports of Arafat's death, Bush said "God bless his soul".
Originally posted by: conjur
Israel and Palestinians brace for worst with Arafat 'brain dead'
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...04205203&printer=1
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Political leaders in Israel and the West Bank steeled themselves for the end of the Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) era as the vanguard of the Palestinian nationalist struggle for the past four decades lay brain dead in a Paris hospital.
Palestinian officials fiercely denied that Arafat had passed away after Israeli media reported that the 75-year-old had died.
But while French medical sources said Arafat was technically still alive, they added that he was "brain dead" and only breathing with the help of life support machines while in an irreversible coma.
Technically, Arafat is "not dead," one source told AFP on condition of confidentiality. But there was no hope of him leaving his vegetative state and recovering basic bodily functions such as breathing without assistance.
Such artificial care can be "extended for several days or several weeks thanks to the machines," the source said.
Israel's private Channel 2 network and army radio had reported that Arafat had been declared dead at a military hospital in Clamart, southwest of Paris.
But Azzam al-Ahmed, communications minister in the Palestinian cabinet and one of Arafat's closest allies, insisted news of his death was premature.
"It is wrong. If the president was dead, the whole world would know," he told AFP. "But it is true that he is a very critical condition."
Arafat was flown to Paris last Friday for treatment of a blood disorder after being airlifted from the compound in the West Bank town of Ramallah where he had been under effective Israeli house arrest for nearly three years.
Palestinian prime minister Ahmed Qorei had earlier tried to play down the seriousness of Arafat's condition, denying he was in a coma and insisting new test results had been positive.
Qorei had been attending emergency leadership meetings of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and the dominant Fatah (news - web sites) party. Both have been led by Arafat for some four decades, but were chaired Thursday by former premier Mahmud Abbas.
Hundreds of Fatah supporters brandished portraits of Arafat as they took to the streets of Gaza City late Thursday while prayers were said for his welfare.
"We pray to Almighty God for the swift recovery of our president Yasser Arafat so that he can return to his people in good health," said the imam at Gaza's Sheikh Zayid mosque.
Residents in Ramallah were glued to their television sets for updates on the town's famous resident.
"I can't bear the thought he will die for good. He's our national leader, the one and only," said 33-year-old Mohammed Ribhi as his eyes filled with tears.
Amid widespread fears that Arafat's death could trigger chaos on the streets of the West Bank and Gaza Strip (news - web sites), all members of the Palestinian Security services were placed on a state of alert Thursday.
"The security forces have been put on a state of alert and all members ordered to be on standby," one senior officer said.
"We have been told to prepare for any activity which is beyond the law and to protect the legitimacy of all the Palestinian institutions."
Signs of nerves on the Israeli side were also evident as troops in the occupied territories were placed on alert after Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz called a meeting in Tel Aviv attended by the heads of the country's security services.
Israeli public television, meanwhile, reported that army commanders were to urge the government to capitalise on Arafat's demise by working more closely with the Palestinians.
The army has drawn up plans, codenamed "New Page", to deal with all possible eventualities should Arafat die. But officers would also urge the government to coordinate its withdrawal of settlers and troops from the Gaza Strip (news - web sites), due to take place by the end of 2005, with Arafat's successors, the television said.
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) has refused all dealings with Arafat since coming to power in 2001, instead confining him to his West Bank headquarters until his dramatic airlift to Paris last Friday.
Arafat's death or permanent incapacitation has the potential to galvanise the Middle East peace process.
Sharon met Abbas on a number of occasions last year before a massive suicide bomb prompted Israel to freeze top-level contacts with the Palestinians.
Arafat has also been snubbed by US President George W. Bush (news - web sites). Asked for his reaction to the reports of Arafat's death, Bush said "God bless his soul".
Getting closer.