Arch support for flat footers

Bezell

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Nov 29, 2000
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Was checking out some arch supports for my flat foot because it causes me a lot a pain. So I went to a specialty foot store and they were selling 3 pairs of arch supports for $315. WHen looking on the internet I found this. Text. Phase 4 orthotics. It looks the same as the ones I saw in the store. Can anyone vouche for this company?

I really need some support for my flat feet and if I can get it at $20. That is certaintly a lot better than paying $50/per sole.

P.S. Happy new Year Everyone and thanks for you input.
 

Silex

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Glad you mentioned it! Mainly because I've seen the infomercials on it and can say that they prolly are one of the best foot conformers out there. Just due to their patented design of course .
 

cjchaps

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Can't you just got to walgreens or some pharmacy and purchase arch supports for around 20 bucks?
 

DJcodename

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Not sure I would trust it. The order page is secure and it is a valid phone number. I used to have a real pair that I lost and loved them, so I almost jumped on this until I noticed this:

First of all it is one of those "as seen on TV" items. Also, no where do they mention anything about what it is made of. Could be cardboard for all you know.

but maybe they are great. it's a gamble.
 

riprock

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Nov 18, 2001
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At work I went from being on my feet about half the day and moving around, to all day with half of it standing in one place. I tried arch supports, I even bought a pair of Merrell trail running/hiking shoes because they had decent support and great soles that were softer than most. They helped a bit, but not alot. I have high arches.

I tried every Dr Scholes insert, one helped a bit more, but not nearly enough so I took the plunge and spent the $30 (incl shipping) for the Phase4Orthotics insert. The first few weeks of wearing them I couldn't the whole day. Since that point I won't wear shoes without them when going out of the house. I wear slipon boat-type shoes at home sometimes and if I do that two days in a row, I can tell I'm missing my support.

They are NOT an "arch support". They actually support the middle of the foot. It's weird and I was surprised when I got them. The instructions tell you that they'll be painful initially and they are, because it's essentially reshaping your foot to where it should be. After the first two weeks, perfectly comfortable. I found it best when you put your shoes on with them in it, but then sit at your computer for an hour first, or sit watching tv. Then go walking or to work or whatever. They feel totally wrong at first, give them a few weeks.

They're made out of hard rubbery plastic and have just a bit of flex, but not much. They have tiny holes in them for air circulation, but I had to put the inserts beneath my shoe insert because even with socks on my the bottom of my foot was "leaking" through the tiny holes and I'd have little "pimples" on the bottom of my foot. When I put the support underneath my shoe's insert, no problem.

I know this sounds like a "testemonial" (ICK!) but I'm telling you, they were a Godsend for me. I'm 270lbs and a postal worker. I walk on hard floors 8 hours/day. I do have one pair of cheap hiking boots that I stopped wearing because they never really fit right that I tried the supports in, it helped but my feet would still hurt using those boots. The supprts combined with my Merrill shoes are awesome. I haven't tried the supports in any other shoes, like my dress shoes yet. I've been using them for about 3 months. I did a little searching and found these on other websites, but not the same brand "Phase4Orthotics" so I guess they've been around for ahile, but I couldn't find a price better than the As Seen On Tv.

Oh, I have a friend at work, who isn't on his feet all day, who uses them for hiking. He has flat feet. When he bought his boots at the outdoor store 5+ years ago, they talked him into a pair of these supports and he loved them. He said they never hurt his feet starting out (when I was telling him they were hurting initially).
 

ChopOMatic

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I haven't watched much TV lately and dunno if this is a successful infomercial or not. (It's successful if it runs regularly over a period of several months.) If it is, just be patient. The goal of an infomercial is to be a self-paying campaign that builds brand awareness to go into mass retail. If it's a successful "as seen on TV" product, it'll be in the stores before long and usually at a much lower price. If it was an unsuccessful infomercial, look for 'em to turn up in places like Sam's and Costco at greatly reduced prices. Of course, at $20 we're not talking about a huge expenditure anyway.
 

JEDI

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hm..all these posts by junior members for this device. try footsmart.com if you need footcare.

 

riprock

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<< hm..all these posts by junior members for this device. try footsmart.com if you need footcare. >>



...and as we all know, being a junior member of Anandtech Forums means you don't know much; therefore no one should listen to what you have to say...

What does being a "Junior Member" have to do with anything? What if a sysadmin with 30yrs of exp is posts a few choice bits of info but he's a junior member? You only joined in Sept so does that mean we should listen to someone who joined 6 months ago over you? Base people's posts on truth, not on how long they've been posting here.

Are you in some way associated with this footsmart.com website?!?! Hmmm? I'll bet you're a footsmart.com salesman even!

I'm sorry, offhanded remarks like this annoy me.
 

XoMartel

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i'm offended by XFile comment too.
do you think by having more post counts, you are better than people with less post counts?
you made a discriminating comment, and you think you feel better?

Don't Judge book with it's cover!

if you haven't know, not many people is post counts craze. post counts are a media that identify this person has been active in this particular forum, but it doesn't show that this person is better than people with more or less post counts.

Your intention is not nice, your comment doesn't correspond with the subject discussed, were you using yer brain?
 

cmv

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These sound like a good idea... I'm wondering if I'll need to get bigger shoes though .
 

Clocker

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It would seem xfile is not a senior member either. I dont believe his comments were ment to be too ofensive.

Phase 4 huh? My dogs bark all the time I think Ill check ebay for those.

Clocker
 

Sun

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XFILE just cause you have more posts doesn't mean **** Seems like I'm a junior member since 99 and damn proud of it hehe. Ahhh moronic comments just piss me off hehe. Good find Bezell
 

riprock

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<< These sound like a good idea... I'm wondering if I'll need to get bigger shoes though . >>



yeah, I did forget about that but I'm used to it now. The supports do make the middle of your foot higher in the shoe. The Merrells I have I have to tie them a bit looser than before. With the supports I *could* tie them so tight I'd cut off circulation

If you want new shoes and want to try these supports, I'd suggest getting the supports, wearing them in your old shoes until you're used to them, then taking the supports with you when going to buy new shoes.
 

ttalkman

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Yes, these Phase4 orthotics work very well. I recommend them without reservation.
:Q Just don't let the company snow you with other offers.
Give them the raspberries for all the other products they push at you.

They do support main arch and also support middle/forward part of foot bottom.
My son has worn them for a few months and his flat feet are starting to develop an arch.
His feet no longer hurt or pain him and he is able to do so much more.
He wears them with all his shoes, including his down hill ski boots.

I also recommend that you take the orthotic with you when you try on new shoes.
You can use them in your present shoes but normally a 1/2 size larger or "EE" width might prove better fit.
You can also take out the inner lining of your shoes and put it over top of the orthotic, which is also a better way to go.

I also would recommend Miejer's Shoe department where they fix shoes and make keys.
They have better made orthotics for sale there, compared to what they and other stores sell on the shelves next to pharmacy.
Most arch supports like Dr. Sholl's ect., suck big time. Waste of money.

This is my opinion only, but I have had chronic Plantar Facitus and have been around the block a few times relating to feet.
I personally have a perscription orthotic that I've had for the past 10 years. Prescription will cost you around $200 or $300.
The Phase4 is $20, a great bargain and seems to work very well...
 

pokeineye

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Custom orthotics aren't cheap, but I'd highly recommend that people get a qualified evaluation and fit as opposed to purchasing off-the-shelf products.

My wife has had flat feet all her life. As a result of her flat feet, her ankles roll inward and down, also causing her knees to roll inward slightly (not readily apparent). This in turn has caused her kneecaps to track on the outside of the V-shaped groove in which they ride. Consequently, after years of physical activity while wearing off-the-shelf orthotics, the cartilage remaining on the outside of this groove has been worn down to the point where she is in danger of osteoarthritis at age 40. Dislocation of the kneecap is also a real concern. After years of trying to find the "right" doctor (and a pair of custom orthotics that only "adjusted" her wallet), she finally found a specialist in biomechanics / sports physiology who put this all together based upon a very preliminary exam. X-rays confirmed the diagnosis and the extreme wear of the outer cartilage. For the first time she had custom orthotics fitted that really did the job. Careful attention was paid to setting the proper angle of the footbed to obtain proper knee alignment.

Surgery is not an attractive alternative. Her therapy is bicycling, which strengthens the inner quadriceps and helps pull the kneecap back to the inside. Again, proper foot to pedal alignment is required (tapered shims between cleat and cycling shoe in place of orthotics). Last year she racked up 3,000 miles.

My bottom line recommendation is to think long term and get qualified attention as soon in life as possible. Although orthotics available over-the-counter may suffice for awhile, don't be penny-wise and pound-foolish. Satisfy yourself that you're getting a qualified opinion.

Here's a link to educational information that may help answer questions about common orthopedic problems: http://www.medicalmultimediagroup.com/opectoc.html
 

cyfan2001

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I recommend you all do what I did...become a programmer and sit on your ass all day eating cheezy poofs and drinking Mountain Dew. My feet are fine. Of course there is that long walk to the car twice a day. And then that painful pushing of the gas pedal on my car. But I guess we all have a cross to bear!
 

riprock

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<< I recommend you all do what I did...become a programmer and sit on your ass all day eating cheezy poofs and drinking Mountain Dew. My feet are fine. Of course there is that long walk to the car twice a day. And then that painful pushing of the gas pedal on my car. But I guess we all have a cross to bear! >>



Yeah, but then he'd be asking about what is the best doughnut butt pillow for his hemmorhoids
 

TimidOCer

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<<

<< I recommend you all do what I did...become a programmer and sit on your ass all day eating cheezy poofs and drinking Mountain Dew. My feet are fine. Of course there is that long walk to the car twice a day. And then that painful pushing of the gas pedal on my car. But I guess we all have a cross to bear! >>



Yeah, but then he'd be asking about what is the best doughnut butt pillow for his hemmorhoids
>>



what is the best one?
 
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