Are 2500+ outdated now?

[boxed]

Seems to me that everyone on this section are talking about A64 3000+ blah blah. Who here still use Socket A mobo's?

My poor PC seems to be out dated from the rest of you. How does this mobo look to you/

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-517&depa=1

 

[Markfw]

Yes, Athlon64 has been out for a year or more, and socket A is dead. Socket 754 is also getting old.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: boxed How does this mobo look to you/

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-517&depa=1

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1449863&enterthread=y

 

[11427]

I dunno,... I still have three sktA machines. They are getting a bit long in the tooth but will still handle all your computing needs,...unless you are a heavy gamer. Also in many apps my XP 2500+ @ 2.2 runs neck and neck with my A64 3000+, but again for games the A64 has a pretty good edge. So I'd suggest you concider what you do with your computer,... if your gaming, Upgrade,... if not I'd suggest you hold off a bit and see what happens with dual core, PCI-E, and DDR2 (DDR3?)

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yes, Athlon64 has been out for a year or more, and socket A is dead. Socket 754 is also getting old.

socket a is dead? semprons are ghosts? socket 754 is dead? the new 754 cores that are being released are mere illusions?

anyway, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a 2500+, it's just not the cream of the crop. I happen to have 3 other socket a rigs (2700+, 2500+, and a 2900+ oem) that run great and which the a64 hold no real advantage over given their budget minded creation (desktop use basically - low gaming nothing more than a fx5200 in each one). a 2500+ can still keep up with today's games. you'll be bottlenecked if you stick a 6800gt in there or something, but a 6600gt would suite your rig very nicely . keep in mind that im saying this from a very light gamer's point of view.

edit: ocing might help? locked barton would be a shame :b

 

[hectorsm]

With a decent video card (like a 6600GT) and your 2500+ running @2.2 you should run any games just fine. At what speed is your processor running?

If your thinking of getting a new A64 system wait at least for the new socket 939 A64 revision E. This new revision has SSOI and it overclocks like crazy. I got my A64 about a month ago and I wish I had waited for the revision E.

 

[Greenman]

If you're a total geek and track every stutter and have logs of your fps over hours of every game you play, then yes, you need an A64. If on the other hand, you play games for fun and just want them to look good, then a socket A will do just fine. I run a 3000+ Barton, my kids box is a A64 3000, I can't see any differance in any game, and we play all the latest and greatest.

 

[bobsmith1492]

I've got two 2500s at 2.2 and 2.3 and an 1800 at ~1900. They're all great, though they could use a giggeram probably. Oh, and I'm typing this on my P-M 1.7, and I would like an A64 some days.....

 

[Shimmishim]

wait... tell that to my 2500+ mobile that does 2.9... tell it that its dead!!!

 

[bobsmith1492]

It's dead. Sorry for your loss.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Greenman
If you're a total geek and track every stutter and have logs of your fps over hours of every game you play, then yes, you need an A64. If on the other hand, you play games for fun and just want them to look good, then a socket A will do just fine. I run a 3000+ Barton, my kids box is a A64 3000, I can't see any differance in any game, and we play all the latest and greatest.

I completely agree, I find it kind of funny how some will claim the AXP is fine for other things, but if you game you should upgrade. Wasn't one of the only saving graces to the AXP was that it could keep up with intel in games whereas it generally lagged behind in a lot of other things? AXP's like the 2500+ were popular because they were cheap gaming CPUs compared with their competing intel counterparts.

If you can get an AXP to at least 2.2GHz it should be more than fine for any game out on the market.

 

[RussianSensation]

AXP 2500+ with a 6800GT is faster than A64 3500+ and 6600GT. It's all about the right balance. Sure it isnt optimal but it can still provide playable framerates for today's games, given that it is matched with a fast graphics card. It is certainly better to own an AXP processor and 6800GT/X800xt than the latest A64 tech and stick 6600GT in them because you cant afford a better graphics card.

 

[Quentin]

Well I still have Socket A motherboards and am happy. I always try to buy the best motherboard I can find at the time and economize on the CPU and RAM. That's what I did two years ago when I got an A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe, XP2400+ and 512MB PC2100 RAM.

Today I still have that motherboard but the CPU and RAM have been sold and replaced with an XP-M2600+ and 1GB of PC3200. (Another nice thing is Windows never had to be reinstalled.) My A7N8X-E Deluxes are about 18 months old and were upgraded the same way with mobiles and PC3200. Selling the old parts to the right people minimized the cost of my upgrades.

These boards recently were updated with the excellent Trats' modded BIOSes and are good to go for at least another year. (Buying name brands like ASUS and ABit help ensure lots of BIOS updates will be around for a few years.)

No, I wouldn't build a Socket A system today but it's long from dead if you've got a good one! And upgrading to a mobile XP and better RAM can be an excellent move.

I'm glad people are buying A64 systems but am also glad I have the luxury to wait until next year for that next "best" motherboard and economy A64!

 

[Jeff7]

My 2400XP-M's are still chugging along just fine. True, my video encoding could be faster, but I'd probably need a new motherboard, new RAM, and a new CPU - big bucks there. If I have any big encoding projects to do, I've got three PCs at my disposal - and I have to sleep and go to work. So, the big projects either get offloaded onto an available PC, or else I set my PCs to work when I'm not using them.

Can get a bit annoying waiting for a PC to work its way through an episode of MST3K when Virtualdub has to apply deinterlace, denoise, resizing, and sharpening filters to one video. Can we say "2-3 fps on a 2GHz CPU?" But hey, at least the computer's doing all the work, not me.

 

[onlyCOpunk]

I'm in the same sort of predicament. Except I have a 2400+. I want to upgrade rather quickly as I just got my tax return back, and I don't know when I'll have spare money to upgrade again. I just bought a 6800 so the AGP vs. PCI-E dilema is there too. I think I will try and wait though until a 64-bit OS is actually released to take advantage of the A64.

 

[boxed]

i can't overclock my 2500+ to a 3200+ anymore, the CPU would restart my PC every few min's. I've had it overclocked to a 3200+ for about a year or so. But i turned down the speed back to 2500+ and no more problems.

 

[iversonyin]

i hav mobile 2500, i don find it outdated. it depends on what you do

 

[night]

i have a 2500 barton at 2.4gig and cant even begin to justify buying an A64.
i am moving to a 6600gt from my 9700p and intend to keep it that way another year.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: Quentin

These boards recently were updated with the excellent Trats' modded BIOSes and are good to go for at least another year. (Buying name brands like ASUS and ABit help ensure lots of BIOS updates will be around for a few years.)

Where do I get this????

Edit: I plan on getting at least another year out of my rig, perhaps 2.

 

[screw3d]

I've been waiting to upgrade me AXP 1700+ (2.3GHz) for a long time but an upgrade to socket 939 will require a new PCIe video card..

6600GT (~200) + A64 3000+ (~130) + DFI m/b (~150)

That's about $500!

 

[Shenkoa]

I have a P4 2A OC'd to 2.7 with 512 MB of PC3200 Corsair memory and a 9800 Pro and I have never had any probloms with any of the games I have played. Dont blow all of your money trying to keep up with technology cause you will never win.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yes, Athlon64 has been out for a year or more, and socket A is dead. Socket 754 is also getting old.

Negatory. There are EXCELLENT power budget opportunities for the s754 platform, such as an Epox 8KDA3j with an A64 2800+ (~$180 total) or a DFI lanparty UT with a Sempron 2800+ (~$185 total).

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: boxed
Seems to me that everyone on this section are talking about A64 3000+ blah blah. Who here still use Socket A mobo's?

My poor PC seems to be out dated from the rest of you. How does this mobo look to you/

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-517&depa=1

I still use the skt A platform. I figure my cpu will do up to 2.5ghz. I just got in a 6800GT and have a gig of ram on order. If it appears the cpu is bottlenecking the new card, I'll just go up on the OC. IMHO, skt A is still a very good gaming platform. Figure I'll wait for some 64 goodness till next year.

Fern

 

[Quentin]

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: Quentin

These boards recently were updated with the excellent Trats' modded BIOSes and are good to go for at least another year. (Buying name brands like ASUS and ABit help ensure lots of BIOS updates will be around for a few years.)

Where do I get this????

Edit: I plan on getting at least another year out of my rig, perhaps 2.

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=219041 (Long FAQ so do a search on Trats)