Are 50 caliber rifles still legal in all states besides Cali?

[lozina]

Heck I'd buy one just as an investment... it's only a matter of time before they are banned similar to the 1994 ban, where any rifle sold prior to the ban date is still legal to own and transfer.

Is it still legal to buy?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

 

[Fern]

Yeah, I think so.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

 

[Kadarin]

It's too bad I live in CA, as I'd love to own one of these. They sound like they'd be fun doing target practice with. Anyone know if it's legal to go to another state and buy one, then take it back to California?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

Man I wish I could. I live in NY and we have the same "assault weapon" ban that was in place for the country and expired for everyone else. I cannot purchase any AR15/AK variant.

So I figure I'll buy a 50 caliber.

Is Serbu basically a clone of Barrett?

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

You sure about that? You're going to have a heck of a time using those two parts together.

While you can put different caliber uppers on the reciever, the round cannot be longer than the reciever can handle. The .50 Beowulf would work with a little work, but there is no .50 BMG upper that can fit on a .223 reciever.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
It's too bad I live in CA, as I'd love to own one of these. They sound like they'd be fun doing target practice with. Anyone know if it's legal to go to another state and buy one, then take it back to California?

No. Importing a Ca banned rifle is not legal. However not all 50 cals are banned in Ca, only those specifically chambered for .50BMG rounds are. Look around calguns for more info.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: Thorny

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

You sure about that? You're going to have a heck of a time using those two parts together.

While you can put different caliber uppers on the reciever, the round cannot be longer than the reciever can handle. The .50 Beowulf would work with a little work, but there is no .50 BMG upper that can fit on a .223 reciever.

Watsons

Ferret

L&G

ALDS

Ultralight 50

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: Thorny

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

You sure about that? You're going to have a heck of a time using those two parts together.

While you can put different caliber uppers on the reciever, the round cannot be longer than the reciever can handle. The .50 Beowulf would work with a little work, but there is no .50 BMG upper that can fit on a .223 reciever.

Watsons

Ferret

L&G

ALDS

Ultralight 50

You should point out that those are all single-shot conversion kits. You have to hand feed every round with no magazine or clip. None of those kits are AR style uppers.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: Thorny

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: Thorny

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Yeah.

Some companies will sell just the receiver, which is what counts as the firearm, that way you don't have to pony up several grand for a whole rifle.

In 2004 after the AWB expired I bought many AR15 receivers. I can always sell them at cost if there is never another ban. Or if there is a ban, make a hefty profit

oh hey, that's a great idea. any idea how much the receiver would run you?

Depends completely on the brand. I want to say Safety Harbor's are like $150, where as Serbu are like $800.

You can always get an AR15 lower and then a .50 upper for it. AR15 lowers run about $80 if you buy them in bulk.

You sure about that? You're going to have a heck of a time using those two parts together.

While you can put different caliber uppers on the reciever, the round cannot be longer than the reciever can handle. The .50 Beowulf would work with a little work, but there is no .50 BMG upper that can fit on a .223 reciever.

Watsons

Ferret

L&G

ALDS

Ultralight 50

You should point out that those are all single-shot conversion kits. You have to hand feed every round with no magazine or clip. None of those kits are AR style uppers.

You do realize most .50BMG rifles are single shot right?

And there are a couple of mag fed uppers, Cobb will have another coming out soon.

What are you wanting exactly? What do you consider an AR style upper?

 

[crumpet19]

so the receiver is $200 and the upper is like eleventy-billion!?

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: Thorny

You should point out that those are all single-shot conversion kits. You have to hand feed every round with no magazine or clip. None of those kits are AR style uppers.

You do realize most .50BMG rifles are single shot right?

And there are a couple of mag fed uppers, Cobb will have another coming out soon.

What are you wanting exactly? What do you consider an AR style upper?

I realize that most .50 are single shot, but not hand fed, which defeats the purpose of having an AR style reciever for it, especially if you don't have any other uppers (I hope the comma police miss that I guess my point is that if your going to buy a .50BMG you would be better buying the complete rifle. Those conversion kits look like they might be fun, but they're about as ungraceful and impractical as can be.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

The ones I've seen in the sub $2000 range are generally hand fed single shots.

Only when you get up into the 4s and 5s are there magazine fed .50s. And 6s for semi-autos

But yeah I'd far prefer to buy a complete rifle than just a kit, but the cost is too high for me right now Though as soon as a .50 ban shows up they'll sell the hell out of receivers.

Serbu said they sold more receivers in the 2 months before the ban took effect in CA than they had ever sold there before.

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
The ones I've seen in the sub $2000 range are generally hand fed single shots.

Only when you get up into the 4s and 5s are there magazine fed .50s. And 6s for semi-autos

But yeah I'd far prefer to buy a complete rifle than just a kit, but the cost is too high for me right now Though as soon as a .50 ban shows up they'll sell the hell out of receivers.

Serbu said they sold more receivers in the 2 months before the ban took effect in CA than they had ever sold there before.

My big prob with the kits is that my AR has a really heavy trigger pull thats not adjustable which makes LONG shots impractical. I like light triggers for long shots.

Having plenty of recievers laying around is a pretty good investment these days though, I might just go buy a few more in case the other Clinton comes back and takes 'em away again

Maybe I can use that excuse to get the wife thinking that the .416 I want is a good investment. :evil:

 

[bob4432]

it would be interesting what a new awb would be and i wonder if they old stuff would be grandfathered in...hell you never know.

for you CA people, get something chambered in the 416 barrett extremely accurate and still legal since it is under the magical number .50 what about 338?

i would move to CA except for their gun laws, that is the only thing that is keeping me out of there. i love la jolla, but don't think i could live in a place that gives criminals more rights than good people

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: bob4432
it would be interesting what a new awb would be and i wonder if they old stuff would be grandfathered in...hell you never know.

Wonder no longer... H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes

"H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

. Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

. Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

. All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")

. All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."

. Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")

. Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

. 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban."

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: bob4432
it would be interesting what a new awb would be and i wonder if they old stuff would be grandfathered in...hell you never know.

Wonder no longer... H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes

"H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

. Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

. Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

. All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")

. All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."

. Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")

. Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

. 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban."

oh sh!t....when is this thing going to be up for vote? i may as well move to canada, the healthcare is better.....f*ck and start stockpiling for this kind of sh!t,

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: bob4432
it would be interesting what a new awb would be and i wonder if they old stuff would be grandfathered in...hell you never know.

Wonder no longer... H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes

"H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

. Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

. Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

. All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")

. All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."

. Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")

. Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

. 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban."

So this is basically a permanent ban on guns? Wow..

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: bob4432
it would be interesting what a new awb would be and i wonder if they old stuff would be grandfathered in...hell you never know.

Wonder no longer... H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes

"H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

. Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

. Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

. All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")

. All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."

. Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")

. Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

. 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban."

Absolutely ridicuous.

Good thing I just ordered my Saiga 12 semi-auto shotgun. Hell, now I am thinking about ordering more of them! It's an arms race to get 'em while they're still "legal".

And in regard to the 50 cal. I think it has actually been banned in my state just last year, so I guess I won't be getting one.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand

These are popular for marksmanship?

 

[spliffstar69]

yea i picked up this bad boy last summer man its a blast. got a 40rd clip which allows me to hold about 15 .50 rds

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge

the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand

These are popular for marksmanship?

Yes. AR-15s and M1As (M14) are probably the most popular target rifles outside of .22s

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: spliffstar69
yea i picked up this bad boy last summer man its a blast. got a 40rd clip which allows me to hold about 15 .50 rds

man, that's a nice one there!

how's the recoil on that sucker?