Are anandtechers mostly liberal, or are there just more libs in P&N?

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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Don't allow people from other countries interfere with our country politic.
Does that include WTF are you doing here then?


Sorry dude, you must understant immigrants are patriot same as other american. I know for sure a have my citizenship . What about you I don't know. and I don't give a damn
Well all I can say is that I hope that you are more of a patriot in this country than you were in your last. Of course if we fall you won't have anyplace to run away too.
 

vanln

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Aug 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Don't allow people from other countries interfere with our country politic.
Does that include WTF are you doing here then?


Sorry dude, you must understant immigrants are patriot same as other american. I know for sure a have my citizenship . What about you I don't know. and I don't give a damn
Well all I can say is that I hope that you are more of a patriot in this country than you were in your last. Of course if we fall you won't have anyplace to run away too.


LOL,
Same as you, where can you run? Back to england ?
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Don't allow people from other countries interfere with our country politic.
Does that include WTF are you doing here then?


Sorry dude, you must understant immigrants are patriot same as other american. I know for sure a have my citizenship . What about you I don't know. and I don't give a damn
Well all I can say is that I hope that you are more of a patriot in this country than you were in your last. Of course if we fall you won't have anyplace to run away too.


LOL,
Same as you, where can you run? Back to england ?
No, unlike you I would and fight to my death to protect my country.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Corn
Most of the thoughtful conservative posters have abandoned P&N or were shown the door.
Surely you don't believe that Riporin and Heartsurgeon were "thoughtful"?

Anyway, as a nonpartisan, I see the current liberal backlash as appropriate, if only because the Republicans are simply reaping what they themselves have already sown. And it is actually mild IMO compared to the outrageous Republican backlash against the Dems in the middle '90s. For example, you don't see armed militias full of liberals training daily to overthrow the government this time around do you?

Have any of you ever read George Washington's Farewell Address? He was a wonderfully intelligent man, and within his address is a very foresighted warning on the dangers of bipartisanship. I'll quote it here:
I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

Source
 

vanln

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Aug 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vanln
Don't allow people from other countries interfere with our country politic.
Does that include WTF are you doing here then?


Sorry dude, you must understant immigrants are patriot same as other american. I know for sure a have my citizenship . What about you I don't know. and I don't give a damn
Well all I can say is that I hope that you are more of a patriot in this country than you were in your last. Of course if we fall you won't have anyplace to run away too.


LOL,
Same as you, where can you run? Back to england ?
No, unlike you I would and fight to my death to protect my country.

If Governor Schwarzenegger hear what you just say. He will kick your butt back to where you belong. USA is our country not your
 

Corn

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Nov 12, 1999
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Surely you don't believe that Riporin and Heartsurgeon were "thoughtful"?

They are the trolls that have replaced those of whom to which I was referring:

Tominator, Ultra Quiet, Amused, CPA, Michael, AndrewR, Nitemare.......and many others. Banished or abandoned, their political commentary has been silenced for the most part.

For example, you don't see armed militias full of liberals training daily to overthrow the government this time around do you?

Revisionist history at its finest. "republican" militias my ass. Those who participated in the militia movement were no more Republican than today's ELF terrorists or Anarchists (to name but a few violent left wingers) are Democrats. Although I have already witnessed quite a few posts from the rabid Bush hating crowd contemplating secession of Blue states, LOL.

:roll:
 

BenSkywalker

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Oct 9, 1999
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A likely slant in terms of the perception of political makeup is that the libs have to be pretty p!ssed off about the current political situation, they have been getting throttled on pretty much every level of politics. Much like the conservatives during Hillary's Presidency they have an awful lot to be p!ssed about and can easily blame the opposition as they have control over all of the political branches right now.

In realistic terms, most of the conservatives aren't likely going to be too fond to tackle the p!ssed off libs mainly as they are ticked off by a liberal that calls himself a conservative and plays just enough lip service to it to gain himself a small dose of credibility. An honest conservative can not defend a great deal of Bush's problems as they are left wing decissions that caused them in the first place- particularly on the economic front where his fairly radical left wing spending habits are becoming a serious issue. He is a big government liberal- he just approaches it slightly differently then the pure libs.

So you end up with the libs raging mad and conservatives unwilling to defend the administration- gives the perception of a heavy slant.

Red Dawn is much more non-partisan, he has this horrible habit of being a realist, there's a big difference..

While you may think of RD as a political realist, he is extremely far removed from it. He is a cynic, and can be quite pragmatic about political posturing(which is mainly what seems to be discussed in this forum), but he is assuredly a political idealist.
 

Tylanner

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Sep 18, 2004
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The liberals main objective after the election has been to post anything to stir-up a flame war, even racist remarks.
 

BenSkywalker

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Oct 9, 1999
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The liberals main objective after the election has been to post anything to stir-up a flame war, even racist remarks.

Of course, although the collectivist party has always been the leaders of racism throughout history. The Republicans were founded as an abolisionist party- the Nazis were Socialists in name and practice. The more individualistic a nation becomes, the more it must rely on all people to perform to their optimum capacity for society.

One only has to look to the last liberal administration to see how the slaughter of millions of blacks in Rwanda is insignificant compared to the killing of a couple thousand white bigots. The Deomcratic party in this nation was the driving force behind the slaughter of Native Americans and they were the driving force behind the continued legalization of slavery.

With the collectivist mentality the punishing of the smaller group for the benefit of the whole is standard fare. This has been modified in the US after the conservatives forced the liberals to free slaves as the liberals realized the potential for greater control by using their policy to create a permanent welfare state and do all they could to keep the minorities as low on the economic spectrum as possible and play them off of the far lesser populace wise wealthy. This was a smart political move for them, shift the blame for racial issues to the party created to stop their own gross violations of human rights. The liberals have always used the race card to their advantage in any way they can, it is too bad that making real progress as a society will continually be held back by their segregationist push(now with the PR friendly 'multi-culturalism moniker).
 
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