Such is the eventual fate of all mobo makers, once Intel fully moves to BGA CPUs for the mainstream market. It might hurt the mobo makers enough that they might pull out of the non-enthusiast market altogether, further weakening the PC marketshare.I have a suspicion that Biostar might have overestimated the market and produced way too many 847 boards... to the point where they couldn't sell them fast enough before the next generation came out. With a socketed motherboard, the shelf life is quite a bit longer. But when the CPU is soldered on, they become dated and harder to sell much more quickly. :\
Me too, but a better deal (IMO) is going on right now at Staples. Basically the "same" notebook for $25 more, but with a Core i3 with HD 4000 graphics, and USB 3.0.
Hubba. How do you like it?
Price drop on this Gigabyte Brix 1037U unit (from $170 to $150)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856164005
Looking at the release schedules for ULV Celeron from Intel Ark--->http://ark.intel.com/products/family/43521/Intel-Celeron-Processor/mobile
Dual core Sandy Bridge ULV Celeron:
1. Celeron 847 Q2 2011
2. Celeron 857 Q3 2011
3. Celeron 867 Q1 2012
4. Celeron 877 Q2 2012
5. Celeron 887 Q3 2012
Ivy Bridge ULV Celeron:
1. 1007U Q1 2013
2. 1037U Q1 2013
3. 1017U Q3 2013
Haswell ULV Celeron:
1. 2955U Q3 2013
2. 2980U Q3 2013
Dual Core Sandy Bridge showed a progressive increase in clock speed from Q2 2011 all the way to Q3 2012.
Ivy Bridge ULV Celeron, on the other hand, launched with both a fast (1037U) and slow (1007U) SKU.....a faster slow SKU (1017U) followed 2 quarters later.
Based on that history, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some mild speed bumps for both Ivy Bridge ULV and Haswell ULV Celerons sometime in the future.
i hope this thread never dies (or migrates to haswell lol)
Another new one, the Jetway TI70MG-1037.
The lack of USB 3.0 is due to it not being supported natively by the NM70 chipset. The HM70 chipset does support it as shown by the Asus C8HM70-I.
Another weakness of the NM70 chipset is the PCIE slots only have half the lanes. The x16 slot will only have 8 lanes. It's not such an important issue if you are using it for a discrete graphics card, but if you are using an x4 or x2 networking or controller card, you should keep that in mind and plan accordingly.
Also, there is a cheaper version of the Giada N70E available on E-ITX.com for $140, using the celeron 1007u. I can post a quick review with pics when I get it if anyone wants.
http://www.e-itx.com/n70e-dr.html
gigabyte GA-C1037UN is available on ebay at $103.99
Its now on Newegg for $89.99 plus $6.98 shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...131208195513:s
So the PCI-E x1 lane on a NM70 chipset board such as the one in post #415 or #366 would only be PCI-E x .5
So what happens if a usb 3.0 PCI-E x1 expansion card like this one is used? Would the performance be affected?
Just pulled the trigger today, $89.99 plus tax is not too bad, planning to use it as pfsense router, too many bittorrent/emule running simultaneously and my netgear wndr4300 can barely handle it
Welcome to the world of DIY networking equipment! It can be a fascinating and frustrating place at the same time.
Ideal size for the storage space is around 16-32GB with x86 (Unles you're doing enterprise or gamer convention level of routing with over a dozen software packages, sniffers, and real-time reporting) adjust accordingly for x64.
I'm basically using this board for a light weight file/media server with a possible upgrade to a ZFS based FreeNAS box in the future, I basically bought it for the sata ports, processor, chipset and built in USB3.
WARNING: To ensure consistency for ZFS' checksumming and parity calculations, ECC RAM is required with ZFS. Using non-ECC RAM can cause unrecoverable damage to a zpool resulting in a loss of all data in the pool.
If you aren't detail oriented and don't want to understand what is going on deep level in ZFS, then just go with ECC RAM. For those of you that want to understand just how destructive non-ECC RAM can be, keep reading.
Ok, got the Giadatech N70E from e-itx.
http://www.e-itx.com/n70e-dr.html $139
It appears to be a different revision as the USB ports look different from some pictures.
The Good News: the one I got has the the celeron 1037u (instead of the 1007u they list)
The Bad News: Serious lack of documentation, and some of it might not be correct. Instead of a motherboard booklet, I got a 3-fold piece of paper with some line graphics and pin out specs.
The front panel header is a nightmare to deal with. They say what each pin is for, but they don't say which pin groups with which device. IE: HDD LED, PWR SW, PWR LED, and there are a LOT of pins. There is some silk screening on the board itself but I'm getting older and I can't make out everything. I suspect the silk screening is incorrect as well, as my HDD activity light is on full and the pwr led only turns on for about a second and never comes back on upon boot.
Conclusion
I'm basically using this board for a light weight file/media server with a possible upgrade to a ZFS based FreeNAS box in the future, I basically bought it for the sata ports, processor, chipset and built in USB3.
This board is a total mishmash of wierd. The single memory channel will affect graphics performance, not to mention memory expandability and it's mated to an HM77 controller which brings with it USB 3.0, but is way overkill for a celeron or pentium. It uses up a lot of board real-estate on msata and 6 sata ports, but wouln't put in a 2nd memory slot.And to really confuse me, it had 2 relatively high quality Intel 82574L gigabit PHYs on board. It has a PCIEx16 slot, but only links it up with 4 PCIE lanes. (According to the documentation)
This board has a severe identity crisis. Only thing I can think this board would be ideally suited for would be to build a high - end NAS box, like the Synology 5 or 8-drive models.
If you want to spend $140 to experiment or it has something that you really need (the dual intel nics are good for a pfsense box) this may be something to look into, but there are more economical choices out there.
Minimum Requirements
i486 or amd64 platform
1 GiB RAM
2 GiB HDD/DOM/CF/USB Thumb Drive used as OpenMediaVault system drive.
NOTE: The entire disk is used as system disk. The disk can not be used to store user data.
1 HDD for data storage