Are democrats really better than conservatives?

[FerrelGeek]

I've stated my opinion clearly in the Charlottsville thread; I detest both sides of the hate-coin antifa / alt right, et al.

Get back to us when Antifa starts calling for throwing people in ovens.

 

[xthetenth]

I've stated my opinion clearly in the Charlottsville thread; I detest both sides of the hate-coin antifa / alt right, et al.

Yes, the people who use violence to stop genocide advocates from enacting their goals and the genocide advocates are equivalent sides of a coin. Good job!

 

[Jhhnn]

Yes, the people who use violence to stop genocide advocates from enacting their goals and the genocide advocates are equivalent sides of a coin. Good job!

I know, right? There's apparently some part of Fucking Nazis that some conservatives fail to understand.

 

[Jhhnn]

When Democratic politicians include working class democrats in their vision they will succeed. Democratic people are better, their supposed representatives not so much. Regulate all healthcare costs ( there is no other way), and fight for lower inflation and living wages. Wall st is much of the problem.

Dems just don't pitch the white working class in the same dog whistle racist terms as Trump. Hillary said she wanted to be President for all Americans. Trump said he wanted to be President for the vanishing way of life of small town & rural White Americans.

 

[jmagg]

Dems just don't pitch the white working class in the same dog whistle racist terms as Trump. Hillary said she wanted to be President for all Americans. Trump said he wanted to be President for the vanishing way of life of small town & rural White Americans.

I'd say she left out the working class regardless of color in general talking points, which makes up a high percentage of voters. I'd say she would have pulled it out with more specific agendas for that group. Looking forward, the next Democratic candidate will need to be more specific, the rhetoric gets old.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'd say she left out the working class regardless of color in general talking points, which makes up a high percentage of voters. I'd say she would have pulled it out with more specific agendas for that group. Looking forward, the next Democratic candidate will need to be more specific, the rhetoric gets old.

What a load of horseshit. Clinton got buried under a tsunami of slime & character assassination, plain & simple. Policy didn't matter. If it had, working class Americans would have found a lot for themselves in this-

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

 

[SMOGZINN]

I've stated my opinion clearly in the Charlottsville thread; I detest both sides of the hate-coin antifa / alt right, et al.

So, what you are basically saying is that the Allied soldier were just as bad as the Axis?
Also, somehow you hating the haters is fine? You don't see any cognitive dissonance there?

 

[jmagg]

What a load of horseshit. Clinton got buried under a tsunami of slime & character assassination, plain & simple. Policy didn't matter. If it had, working class Americans would have found a lot for themselves in this-

And through all the slime she lost by a hair. I think she would have won with a more specific agenda, of course we'll never know.

 

[realibrad]

Yes, the people who use violence to stop genocide advocates from enacting their goals and the genocide advocates are equivalent sides of a coin. Good job!

It can be the right thing to do, but we are a far way off from racists enacting their goals. The rally the racists held is a sad display and shows a clear sign of what could happen. That said, it was a rally and the call to violence is a bit premature. Keep an eye on them for sure, because groups can go violent quick, but don't be preemptive because that is just going to escalate.

Calling for genocide is bad, and anyone that questions that has to be mentally disabled in some way. Calling for something is not as bad as doing the act though, and we should try and prevent needless violence. If/when they move from calling to doing like the guy who drove through the crowed did, then by all means act. Just don't call for violence before all other things are tried.

 

[Mai72]

Nobody is better/not better.

The system works fine. It's the people. They're flawed. Humans will do what HUNANS have always done since the beginning of time. Mess things up.

 

[Roflmouth]

Because the distinct difference between the two sides is that the hate groups advocate a whole hell of a lot more than just simply violence...

And Antifa actually commits violence. Whoops

 

[Roflmouth]

Every liberal author promoting the idea that Bernie was better than Hillary after Hillary won the primary is squarely in the dumbshit category and every bit as much to blame for Trump as any other degenerate pulling the lever for him.

Bernie was better than Hillary, but I know reminding you of that devastating mistake by the DNC makes you angry

 

[Roflmouth]

Yes, the people who use violence are equivalent sides of a coin. Good job!

FTFY.

 

[Roflmouth]

I know, right? There's apparently some part of Fucking Nazis that some conservatives fail to understand.

Oh, conservatives understand perfectly. Violence is okay when your side does it

 

[Roflmouth]

Dems just don't pitch the white working class in the same dog whistle racist terms as Trump. Hillary said she wanted to be President for all Americans. Trump said he wanted to be President for the vanishing way of life of small town & rural White Americans.

No he didn't.

 

[Roflmouth]

What a load of horseshit. Clinton got buried under a tsunami of slime & character assassination, plain & simple.

She got buried under a tsunami of being Hillary Clinton.

 

[xthetenth]

And Antifa actually commits violence. Whoops

Tell us more about how your side committing vehicular homicide isn't violence.

Don't tell me that you're posting more today because you got fired over where you were over the weekend.

 

[Roflmouth]

Tell us more about how your side committing vehicular homicide isn't violence.

Tell us more about how your side committing murder isn't violence.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/fbi-media-black-lives-matter-behind-spike-in-anti-cop-violence/

 

[pmv]

Bernie was better than Hillary, but I know reminding you of that devastating mistake by the DNC makes you angry

Give it a rest, stirrer. I'm far from a Hillary fan, but Sanders would have faced a shitstorm of attacks from your pals (it's perfectly true what Hillary supporters say that Bernie had not yet faced that in the way that Clinton had), and Hillary did actually win the popular vote, it's just that you've got a bizarre electoral system that doesn't make any sense.

 

[Roflmouth]

Give it a rest, stirrer. I'm far from a Hillary fan, but Sanders would have faced a shitstorm of attacks from your pals (it's perfectly true what Hillary supporters say that Bernie had not yet faced that in the way that Clinton had), and Hillary did actually win the popular vote, it's just that you've got a bizarre electoral system that doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense until a Democrat loses, then it needs to be immediately revamped.

 

[zinfamous]

It makes perfect sense until a Democrat loses, then it needs to be immediately revamped.

what a strange perspective you have. The system has broken this way only twice--and given us the two least popular presidents in history, from a party that has been slowly dying off and has been well-established in minority status. So yeah, the system is broken when a democratic election gives the win to the candidate with the least votes--and surprise! Those turn out to be the worst leaders.

Or is that too difficult for you?

 

[pmv]

It makes perfect sense until a Democrat loses, then it needs to be immediately revamped.

Er, no, I've always thought it was a stupid system, since I first heard it described anyway. After all, its roots lie partly in your system of slavery. And it's getting stupider as imbalances of population density increase. Half-inclined to blame Democrats for not fixing it yonks ago, mind. But I guess it's a difficult thing to reform.

 

[Roflmouth]

what a strange perspective you have. The system has broken this way only twice--and given us the two least popular presidents in history, from a party that has been slowly dying off and has been well-established in minority status. So yeah, the system is broken when a democratic election gives the win to the candidate with the least votes--and surprise! Those turn out to be the worst leaders.

Or is that too difficult for you?

The candidate with the most electoral votes, the only votes that actually count in this particular election, becomes the President. I understand that this has been devastating for your idiotic party, so you'd like to change the rules that have existed for more than two centuries, so they don't continue embarrassing themselves.

 

[xthetenth]

Tell us more about how your side committing murder isn't violence.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/fbi-media-black-lives-matter-behind-spike-in-anti-cop-violence/

Oh god. This is definitely a good source to quote as if its conclusions are trustworthy. Never mind that you're being dishonest as hell and trying to pretend that antifa = blm = literally anyone who might have heard blm speaking. Also you know, that the nazis are on the record as not condemning their violence but actively trying to justify it.

Jesus, this is almost as bad as your side claiming that white genocide exists because people are having interracial relationships and therefore the white race might get "diluted" and that this "genocide" justifies a genocide that consists of extermination.

You are being an apologist for genocide advocates.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Stupidest analogy ever. This is why I hardly ever post in here anymore. The antifa crowd are not a bunch of morality warriors. There a rabble of rent-a-thugs (no racial intent in that comment - just describing their behavior). Both groups should go die in a fire.

So, what you are basically saying is that the Allied soldier were just as bad as the Axis?
Also, somehow you hating the haters is fine? You don't see any cognitive dissonance there?