I know. Your own tactics being so successfully turned around on you has got to be devastating.
Oh god.
I know. Your own tactics being so successfully turned around on you has got to be devastating.
Give it a rest, stirrer. I'm far from a Hillary fan, but Sanders would have faced a shitstorm of attacks from your pals (it's perfectly true what Hillary supporters say that Bernie had not yet faced that in the way that Clinton had), and Hillary did actually win the popular vote, it's just that you've got a bizarre electoral system that doesn't make any sense.
You're right of course but they system yielded no anomalous results between 1888 & 2000 so nobody bothered to fix it. Doing so involves amending the Constitution or getting around it with something like the interstate popular vote compact.
The sad truth is that both GWB & Trump lack legitimacy in the eyes of the People
because they did not win the popular vote. Trump acts like he has some great mandate from the People to enact a radical agenda when he simply does not. He llost by 2.9M votes, 2.1% of the total yet still gamed the system to win.
Love it. How ironic.My fave cartoon on the subject-
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Stupidest analogy ever. This is why I hardly ever post in here anymore. The antifa crowd are not a bunch of morality warriors. There a rabble of rent-a-thugs (no racial intent in that comment - just describing their behavior). Both groups should go die in a fire.
So "They're just as bad"... as Fucking Nazis?
It's impossible for people who don't advocate & haven't practiced genocide to be "just as bad" as anybody who espouses such ideology.Yes, how dare he not recognize that violence is okay when your side does it
It can be the right thing to do, but we are a far way off from racists enacting their goals. The rally the racists held is a sad display and shows a clear sign of what could happen. That said, it was a rally and the call to violence is a bit premature. Keep an eye on them for sure, because groups can go violent quick, but don't be preemptive because that is just going to escalate.
Calling for genocide is bad, and anyone that questions that has to be mentally disabled in some way. Calling for something is not as bad as doing the act though, and we should try and prevent needless violence. If/when they move from calling to doing like the guy who drove through the crowed did, then by all means act. Just don't call for violence before all other things are tried.
She would have won if only one of the many things (most of which were wrong) working against her had let up.And through all the slime she lost by a hair. I think she would have won with a more specific agenda, of course we'll never know.
LOL, what an unfortunate condition....... disease?
So then tell me, if I said violence it's not the answer, and you think violence is not the only option, then why did you question if I wanted to stop them? Strange question to ask me on context.
To be fair though, various democrats can also evidently make every excuse for white nationalists and their peers are just at good looking the other way.
Ah, so we should act only after they start to commit genocide? Got it.
Apparently, in your mind, the nazis could have been defeated had the opposition to them offered up hugs instead of non violent confrontation. Had people reacted violently to their movement, it would have emboldened their movement and would have escalated their rise to power even quicker. Is that your logic?
The rise of nazism happened because of people like you, who stood by and watched. Millions of people died ridding that evil and I don't think it's wrong headed to do whatever necessary to keep that from happening again, even if that means killing a few thousand people who wish to bring back nazism.
Salon.com, conservative bastion sewing discord within D party ranks?
Maybe you have a point to ask if Democrats are better, given the vitriol surrounding identity politics. When the term "chasing the great white male" is tossed around, that sort of racist division has no place among the enlightened - as you'd say, yet there it is. Those are the regressive tendencies I pointed to in my first post. There are dangerous consequences when involved in identity politics, in division as opposed to providing a positive and uplifting message. Of providing unity through hope and change.
President Obama showed the way forward, but that incredible message from 2008 has been discarded for something repugnant.
Democrats are better, but they also need to hope again, and push forward with open arms for all who will follow us unto the breach.
We don't need more of this.
When Democratic politicians include working class democrats in their vision they will succeed. Democratic people are better, their supposed representatives not so much. Regulate all healthcare costs ( there is no other way), and fight for lower inflation and living wages. Wall st is much of the problem.
Oh god. This is definitely a good source to quote as if its conclusions are trustworthy. Never mind that you're being dishonest as hell and trying to pretend that antifa = blm = literally anyone who might have heard blm speaking. Also you know, that the nazis are on the record as not condemning their violence but actively trying to justify it.
Jesus, this is almost as bad as your side claiming that white genocide exists because people are having interracial relationships and therefore the white race might get "diluted" and that this "genocide" justifies a genocide that consists of extermination.
You are being an apologist for genocide advocates.
Perhaps you can point out where that's been done in this thread. Maybe I missed it.
Stupidest analogy ever. This is why I hardly ever post in here anymore. The antifa crowd are not a bunch of morality warriors. There a rabble of rent-a-thugs (no racial intent in that comment - just describing their behavior). Both groups should go die in a fire.
Let's not pretend you don't literally excuse white nationalists in the gop as one in a million.
I pointed out that 300 participants for an event they've ballyhooed for months was a piss poor showing of what passes for strength. Obviously there are more but it's a long way from there to where you claim it to be at 40% of the population.
It's impossible
It's impossible for people who don't advocate & haven't practiced genocide to be "just as bad" as anybody who espouses such ideology.
Ah, so we should act only after they start to commit genocide? Got it.
Apparently, in your mind, the nazis could have been defeated had the opposition to them offered up hugs instead of non violent confrontation. Had people reacted violently to their movement, it would have emboldened their movement and would have escalated their rise to power even quicker. Is that your logic?
The rise of nazism happened because of people like you, who stood by and watched. Millions of people died ridding that evil
and I don't think it's wrong headed to do whatever necessary to keep that from happening again, even if that means killing a few thousand people who wish to bring back nazism.
Yes, they're clearly about to start committing genocide. You don't sound like a historically illiterate nut at all.
True, but then none of them had anything in common with you
So you're cool with violence as long as it's your side doing it. Got it.
False premise leads to false conclusions. I am in no way advocating doing nothing. People should absolutely be engaging and doing something. The difference is that I think there are far more options left other than violence.
I would even argue that violence should start before genocide. The world let the Nazis do far too much before acting.
But hey, if it makes you feel better, think of me as advocating for hugs. You create the imagined world you want.
Yes, they're clearly about to start committing genocide. You don't sound like a historically illiterate nut at all.
True, but then none of them had anything in common with you
So you're cool with violence as long as it's your side doing it. Got it.
Degens do love it when their cunning political strategies work. Worth pointing out Jaskalas is the same guy who thinks democrats should focus on detailing econ politics right now instead of all this klan/trump/putin nonesense, same as jmagg and all the other conservatives. Same as they were heaping nothing but praise on sanders long after he lost. Even resident race realist and cold warrior chucky was so enamored with the socialist. Gee I wonder why.
I do conserve, but im not a Conservative.
I claim to be a moderate Democrat or recently Independent, and have never been called out as a degenerate until meeting you. I guess all agendas need a catchy catchphrase.
I suppose, since you have 11.5k posts without a single cohesive idea or policy on how to improve things, that you're into revolution but are afraid to say it, but even revolution has a result that you're obviously not willing to divulge or more likely doesn't exist. Or maybe you just like the word degenerate.