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Ns1

No Lifer
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dude, you guys are living in like the 80's or something.










I could go on and on and on...
 

Locut0s

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Edibles are dosed for a wide variety of uses, as low as 5-10mg and as high as 1000mg.
God damn 1000mg lol. As I said above I had a terrible experience on a brownie some years back. Not going back to them anytime soon. Although I seem to be able to smoke and vape fine. I've had a few bad nights here and there but nothing like that brownie. 1000mg better be a fun trip. Cause if it ain't. That's a 5 to 8 hour roller coaster ride I want no part of lol.
 
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Ns1

No Lifer
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God damn 1000mg lol. As I said above I had a terrible experience on a brownie some years back. Not going back to them anytime soon. Although I seem to be able to smoke and vape fine. I've had a few bad nights here and there but nothing like that brownie. 1000mg better be a fun trip. Cause if it ain't. That's a 5 to 8 hour roller coaster ride I want no part of lol.

unless you have a crazy high tolerance, it's not. And at 1000mg, I'd put 5-8 hours on the low side too.
 

Locut0s

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You eat as much as you want, if youre unsure or dont know how much to eat, ask the person selling it to you. If somehow THEY dont know too, either.........dont eat it........or take a bite and see what happens.
Have you ever taken edibles? I ask cause while this advise sounds, sound. The practicalities of how edibles work make it... Problematic. If you have very low tolerance the high will probably start to kick in around the 2 to 4 hour mark and it's going to last a good 6 to 8 hours. Everyone's biology is different so exactly how high you get is different from one person to the next.

Also we aren't talking here about toxicity, weed has almost zero toxicity. Compared to say alcohol which is physically dangerous if you drink too much. The only danger here is "can you handle the high". Are you going to freak out if you suddenly have the realization that we are all meat machines made of a thousand little cells? Is that going to give you a panic attack? The guy at the dispensary isn't going to be able to tell you that.
 
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Thebobo

Lifer
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For folks who are in states where it legal to why don't you just grow your own? Why pay the obscene prices?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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For folks who are in states where it legal to why don't you just grow your own? Why pay the obscene prices?

Because after you factor in the cost of lights, a growing chamber, carbon filters, nutrients, electricity, and labor, you end up with a product that costs more and is less potent.

....and you don't find out until 16 weeks later.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
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Because after you factor in the cost of lights, a growing chamber, carbon filters, nutrients, electricity, and labor, you end up with a product that costs more and is less potent.

....and you don't find out until 16 weeks later.


You might be living in the 80s as well, If it's legal you don't need a grow chamber, lights, carbon filters, electricity. And as for less potent, ha.

Am I a Tom's hardware poster? Are we in Silicon Valley? No. You're in our forum. ATOT posters who know the difference between good shit and bad shit, this is the forum they come to. Now, my shit, I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Tom's hardware shit, any day of the fuckinging week.

 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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You might be living in the 80s as well, If it's legal you don't need a grow chamber, lights, carbon filters, electricity. And as for less potent, ha.

to grow the super high grade shit that's available in shops today, yes you do. And if you're a concentrate user, the barrier to entry is even higher (+carries greater risk).

Am I a Tom's hardware poster? Are we in Silicon Valley? No. You're in our forum. ATOT posters who know the difference between good shit and bad shit, this is the forum they come to. Now, my shit, I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Tom's hardware shit, any day of the fuckinging week.

I'll give it a 6/10.
 

Smoblikat

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Have you ever taken edibles? I ask cause while this advise sounds, sound. The practicalities of how edibles work make it... Problematic. If you have very low tolerance the high will probably start to kick in around the 2 to 4 hour mark and it's going to last a good 6 to 8 hours. Everyone's biology is different so exactly how high you get is different from one person to the next.

Also we aren't talking here about toxicity, weed has almost zero toxicity. Compared to say alcohol which is physically dangerous if you drink too much. The only danger here is "can you handle the high". Are you going to freak out if you suddenly have the realization that we are all meat machines made of a thousand little cells? Is that going to give you a panic attack? The guy at the dispensary isn't going to be able to tell you that.

I have eaten many, many edibles. Most recently half of a 103g snack bar with 97.85% THC content, I didnt even feel it

It is not unreasonable to expect that the people selling you the stuff to make sure you know exactly what it is you are buying, and what the potential consequences are. It is also very reasonable to expect the people putting it in their bodies to figure out what theyre about to put in thei rbody before they actually do. Nobody can tell you how its going to affect you, people can make educated guesses, but if someone wants to find out theyre going to have to "bite" the bullet and try it out first hand. Perhaps edibles should have some sort of disclaimer about theyre delayed effects, and the very real possibility of "overdosing" (i.e. you take a really good nap and wake up still high).

More awareness about the effects of different types of cannabis would be a very positive thing I think, but people taking some personal responsibility and finding out what theyre about to consume wouldnt hurt either.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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I have eaten many, many edibles. Most recently half of a 103g snack bar with 97.85% THC content, I didnt even feel it

For a heavily experienced user I would consider 200mg a starting dose....
 

Mayne

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I just spent the last half hour looking at my beatiful plants in my grow tent...2 more weeks to go
 
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Thebobo

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to grow the super high grade shit that's available in shops today, yes you do. And if you're a concentrate user, the barrier to entry is even higher (+carries greater risk).

I'll give it a 6/10.


I guess that the difference I'am not interested in super high grade grass. It's plenty strong enough for me.

But I'm sure many home grower would take that pepsi challenge and win!
 
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Locut0s

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Because after you factor in the cost of lights, a growing chamber, carbon filters, nutrients, electricity, and labor, you end up with a product that costs more and is less potent.

....and you don't find out until 16 weeks later.
Also depending on where you are the prices aren't that insane. Yes certainly a lot more than black market Street prices currently. But not so much that you have to be wealthy to smoke. Course it depends on the amount you consume. You can save a lot more money if you use a vaporiser too which is far far more efficient than smoking a joint. Around here in Vancouver dispensary prices seem to be around the 9 to $12 per gram mark. The way I've been smoking I think I use about a 1/4 of a gram a night or so. Sometimes less someties more. Yes you can certainly get cheaper if you go to the black market. But then you don't always know what you are getting and quality varies more too. And like you said if you grow your own there is a very large up front investment.
 
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Locut0s

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I have eaten many, many edibles. Most recently half of a 103g snack bar with 97.85% THC content, I didnt even feel it

It is not unreasonable to expect that the people selling you the stuff to make sure you know exactly what it is you are buying, and what the potential consequences are. It is also very reasonable to expect the people putting it in their bodies to figure out what theyre about to put in thei rbody before they actually do. Nobody can tell you how its going to affect you, people can make educated guesses, but if someone wants to find out theyre going to have to "bite" the bullet and try it out first hand. Perhaps edibles should have some sort of disclaimer about theyre delayed effects, and the very real possibility of "overdosing" (i.e. you take a really good nap and wake up still high).

More awareness about the effects of different types of cannabis would be a very positive thing I think, but people taking some personal responsibility and finding out what theyre about to consume wouldnt hurt either.
Yes I'll agree with basically all of this.
 

Mayne

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What Locutus said. He know's what he is talking about. Next July should be an interesting time in Canadian history.
 
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Locut0s

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Also depending on where you are the prices aren't that insane. Yes certainly a lot more than black market Street prices currently. But not so much that you have to be wealthy to smoke. Course it depends on the amount you consume. You can save a lot more money if you use a vaporiser too which is far far more efficient than smoking a joint. Around here in Vancouver dispensary prices seem to be around the 9 to $12 per gram mark. The way I've been smoking I think I use about a 1/4 of a gram a night or so. Sometimes less someties more. Yes you can certainly get cheaper if you go to the black market. But then you don't always know what you are getting and quality varies more too. And like you said if you grow your own there is a very large up front investment.
Maybe closer to 1/3 or 1/2 a gram a night now that I think of it.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Also depending on where you are the prices aren't that insane. Yes certainly a lot more than black market Street prices currently. But not so much that you have to be wealthy to smoke. Course it depends on the amount you consume. You can save a lot more money if you use a vaporiser too which is far far more efficient than smoking a joint. Around here in Vancouver dispensary prices seem to be around the 9 to $12 per gram mark. The way I've been smoking I think I use about a 1/4 of a gram a night or so. Sometimes less someties more. Yes you can certainly get cheaper if you go to the black market. But then you don't always know what you are getting and quality varies more too. And like you said if you grow your own there is a very large up front investment.

Guess it depends on what you consider a very large investment. For indoor, with LEDs coming down so far on prices as they have and no more days of metal hydride lamps with noisy exhaust fans and filters It's very cheap these days.

Outdoor - decent soil, some seeds and water what could get easier than that? So maybe $35 for seeds and $10 a for bag of manure if your soil sucks. So $45. Or get some cuttings from a friend and $00.

Indoor - 600W Mars Leds (for 2 -3 plants) $130, a closet, couple 5 gallon felt pots $10, either your own or Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil $35, Seeds of your choice from UK ~$30, (You take cuttings for future grows) a 5 dollar timer. So $200. up front. And you can even go cheaper with CFLs.

Where's the large investment? All these will grow quality grass and you'll be proud of your grow and feel self sufficient. It's a myth that growing decent weed is difficult, anyone can cook.
 

Red Squirrel

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I tried weed once, not everyone is affected the same. For me, it sends me into a anxiety panic attack. Never had one before. Was scary. Though I think it also has to do with the fact that I tried it in a public setting. Would probably have been fine if I had been home alone. Would have ordered pizza and chilled on the couch and it would have been awesome.

That said I think it's ridiculous the amount of bureaucracy around it. It was suppose to be legalized here in Canada about a year ago. It was one of Trudeau's biggest promises but he actually took steps back and said he wants more enforcement now. I don't particular care THAT much as i have no intention to partake, but just find it ridiculous how it's treated super illegally when alcohol and cigarettes are much worse and are perfectly legal. It's all corruption. They can't control a plant as well as they can control a manufactured product, so they rather just make it illegal.

The US is also weird when it comes to it, because some states it's legal, yet if you try to cross the border and you smoked it even once, they will ban you from the country.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Guess it depends on what you consider a very large investment. For indoor, with LEDs coming down so far on prices as they have and no more days of metal hydride lamps with noisy exhaust fans and filters It's very cheap these days.

Outdoor - decent soil, some seeds and water what could get easier than that? So maybe $35 for seeds and $10 a for bag of manure if your soil sucks. So $45. Or get some cuttings from a friend and $00.

Indoor - 600W Mars Leds (for 2 -3 plants) $130, a closet, couple 5 gallon felt pots $10, either your own or Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil $35, Seeds of your choice from UK ~$30, (You take cuttings for future grows) a 5 dollar timer. So $200. up front. And you can even go cheaper with CFLs.

Where's the large investment? All these will grow quality grass and you'll be proud of your grow and feel self sufficient. It's a myth that growing decent weed is difficult, anyone can cook.

This is a great way to grow top shelf 80's weed.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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I tried weed once, not everyone is affected the same. For me, it sends me into a anxiety panic attack. Never had one before. Was scary. Though I think it also has to do with the fact that I tried it in a public setting. Would probably have been fine if I had been home alone. Would have ordered pizza and chilled on the couch and it would have been awesome.

That said I think it's ridiculous the amount of bureaucracy around it. It was suppose to be legalized here in Canada about a year ago. It was one of Trudeau's biggest promises but he actually took steps back and said he wants more enforcement now. I don't particular care THAT much as i have no intention to partake, but just find it ridiculous how it's treated super illegally when alcohol and cigarettes are much worse and are perfectly legal. It's all corruption. They can't control a plant as well as they can control a manufactured product, so they rather just make it illegal.

The US is also weird when it comes to it, because some states it's legal, yet if you try to cross the border and you smoked it even once, they will ban you from the country.

That's because you smoked Mayne and Ns1 type of weed

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