Are humans truly omnivores?

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Drako

Lifer
Jun 9, 2007
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You are hilarious!


That's not the way any humans hunted.

Well, any successful ones...

Where do you get these crazy theories?






.Wow.

It's being taught in anthropology classes, and there have been many articles about this over the years. Here is one:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041123163757.htm

"For one possibility, they cite previous research by University of Utah biologist David Carrier, who hypothesized that endurance running evolved in human ancestors so they could pursue predators long before the development of bows, arrows, nets and spear-throwers reduced the need to run long distances."
 

feralkid

Lifer
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It's being taught in anthropology classes, and there have been many articles about this over the years. Here is one:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041123163757.htm

"For one possibility, they cite previous research by University of Utah biologist David Carrier, who hypothesized that endurance running evolved in human ancestors so they could pursue predators long before the development of bows, arrows, nets and spear-throwers reduced the need to run long distances."

Which schools are teaching this balderdash?


Just a common sense hint...go out and try to catch a wild animal by chasing it down.
 

Brigandier

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Which schools are teaching this balderdash?


Just a common sense hint...go out and try to catch a wild animal by chasing it down.

I'm not asking you to think before you post, that'd be too much to hope for. Instead, will you just not post?
 

feralkid

Lifer
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It's being taught in anthropology classes, and there have been many articles about this over the years. Here is one:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041123163757.htm

"For one possibility, they cite previous research by University of Utah biologist David Carrier, who hypothesized that endurance running evolved in human ancestors so they could pursue predators long before the development of bows, arrows, nets and spear-throwers reduced the need to run long distances."



We don't pursue predators.
 

the DRIZZLE

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Sep 6, 2007
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You are hilarious!


That's not the way any humans hunted.

Well, any successful ones...

Where do you get these crazy theories?






.Wow.

There are tribes in Africa that still use this technique. It's probably more effective in the savanna of Africa than in the forests of Europe or North America.
 

HeXen

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i think were more carnivorous likely we adapted to plants cause our earliest ancestors weren't as physically adept at catching enough prey to feed a family healthily until we were able to make weapons. plus greens are easier to get and use less energy to find and eat than chasing down a herd.
 

feralkid

Lifer
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There are tribes in Africa that still use this technique. It's probably more effective in the savanna of Africa than in the forests of Europe or North America.


That's known as "persistence hunting" and is accomplished over the course of several days.

This is quite different than the "sprint and catch" boloney that others have promoted.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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lols we're far more carnivorous than anything else. We can sustain on a complete meat diet, look at the eskimos, yet eating nothing but veggies is much much harder to sustain and usually is accompanied by weight loss and muscle loss. Fat and cholesterol are what caused our brains to develop so highly, your brain NEEDS cholesterol to function properly. The only way you can get the "right" stuff is from eating meat.
 

the DRIZZLE

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That's known as "persistence hunting" and is accomplished over the course of several days.

This is quite different than the "sprint and catch" boloney that others have promoted.

It can be done in hours, and no one said anything about sprinting.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Humans are not the fastest animals, but we evolved to be very efficient at long distance running - no fur, and sweating keeps body temperature in check while chasing an animal across the african savanna until it collapsed from exhaustion and the humans have plenty of steam left.
It's kind of like Pepe Le Pew - except when he catches up to you, he kills and eats you.

What I've read says that bipedal locomotion is more energy-efficient than quadripedal (proper word?). So if you're in some place like a plain in Africa, which is where it's believed that our ancestry originated, the 4-legged animal being pursued will either become exhausted or overheated, particularly when coupled with the stress of knowing it's being hunted by something that just won't give up.



So yeah, let's see...
- Eyes in front for good stereoscopic vision, like a lot of predators.
- Molars that are good for mashing up plant material that's not too terribly tough.
- Incisor and canine type teeth can tear up both meat and vegetable matter.
- Sense of taste is evolutionarily calibrated to think that both meat and fruits have a pleasant taste.
- Other higher primates eat both meat and vegetation.
- Digestive tract can process both meat and vegetation.



Clearly, we evolved to eat a diet that is exclusively vegetarian. :awe:
 
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Brigandier

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That's known as "persistence hunting" and is accomplished over the course of several days.

This is quite different than the "sprint and catch" boloney that others have promoted.

I don't think anyone said what you think they said. All the support has been for persistence hunting, no one said we sprint and catch animals.
 

bfdd

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i think were more carnivorous likely we adapted to plants cause our earliest ancestors weren't as physically adept at catching enough prey to feed a family healthily until we were able to make weapons. plus greens are easier to get and use less energy to find and eat than chasing down a herd.

Grains were farmed to feed more people than hunting and gathering could feed. Grain replaced a lot of our diet because it's easy to feed society with it. All I can say is, I have cut back my carbs, cared less about fat and cholesterol and have lost almost 50 lbs since January 1st. I'm 206 from 250. I feel better and all of the tests my doctor has ran have turned out excellent.
 

HeXen

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Grains were farmed to feed more people than hunting and gathering could feed. Grain replaced a lot of our diet because it's easy to feed society with it. All I can say is, I have cut back my carbs, cared less about fat and cholesterol and have lost almost 50 lbs since January 1st. I'm 206 from 250. I feel better and all of the tests my doctor has ran have turned out excellent.

our earliest ancestors didn't farm. By the time we did, we were well adapted physically to eating both. Meat is a time consuming, energy costly thing to do bare handed, likely insects were the main form of meat back then.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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our earliest ancestors didn't farm. By the time we did, we were well adapted physically to eating both. Meat is a time consuming, energy costly thing to do bare handed, likely insects were the main form of meat back then.

Not that bugs weren't eaten but, cliffs, holes and, pointy sticks aren't exactly modern tech.
 

Jeff7

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Grains were farmed to feed more people than hunting and gathering could feed. Grain replaced a lot of our diet because it's easy to feed society with it. All I can say is, I have cut back my carbs, cared less about fat and cholesterol and have lost almost 50 lbs since January 1st. I'm 206 from 250. I feel better and all of the tests my doctor has ran have turned out excellent.
And of course, it's easier to store grain without refrigeration. Though I guess there are other ways of prepping meat for long-term storage.
Damn, now I want some beef jerky.


(That's assuming you can keep mice away from the grain. If that fails, you might as well just switch to mouse farming.
1) Store wheat.
2) Let a lot of mice get into the storage area.
3) Pour the whole mass into a blender.
4) Add yeast.
5) Cook.
6) Mouse burgers with integrated buns.)
 

feralkid

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I don't think anyone said what you think they said. All the support has been for persistence hunting, no one said we sprint and catch animals.


I thought that is what pOnd was inferring.

If not, sorry; my mistake.
 

OverVolt

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Before civilization people definitely ate meat, our caloric requirements are simply too high without it. We probably have a vegetarian digestive tract more so to accommodate our need for calories from anywhere. Really, we have high calorie requirements for what we are.

Anyway all they mean by a "vegetarian" digestive tract is sphincter muscles between digestive compartments like the cecum to slow down digestion.
 

mattpegher

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Grains were farmed to feed more people than hunting and gathering could feed. Grain replaced a lot of our diet because it's easy to feed society with it. All I can say is, I have cut back my carbs, cared less about fat and cholesterol and have lost almost 50 lbs since January 1st. I'm 206 from 250. I feel better and all of the tests my doctor has ran have turned out excellent.
Some recent theories have been suggested that the reason we began to farm grains instead of just eating them when found, was in order to make beer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...irst-for-beer-spark-civilization-1869187.html

Sure it meant that we could now make more food than we needed but it may have been the search for a drug that prompted farming.

Much like the effect of tobacco on the origins of the USA, mans search for mind altering substances have spurred many changes in history.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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And of course, it's easier to store grain without refrigeration. Though I guess there are other ways of prepping meat for long-term storage.
Damn, now I want some beef jerky.


(That's assuming you can keep mice away from the grain. If that fails, you might as well just switch to mouse farming.
1) Store wheat.
2) Let a lot of mice get into the storage area.
3) Pour the whole mass into a blender.
4) Add yeast.
5) Cook.
6) Mouse burgers with integrated buns.)

...and droppings instead of sesame seeds.
 
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