Are Intel getting Worried? - 9900KS

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Lifer
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Nothing weird or interesting about this garbage, just adjust the binning and increase some PCU MSR to blow through the power limit. Literally intern level work.

And yet the intern didn't do it for the last 5 years. Where was my 5GHz Skylake quad core, eh?
 

dmens

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And yet the intern didn't do it for the last 5 years. Where was my 5GHz Skylake quad core, eh?
The intern was told to go work on some mediocre proprietary in house flow that would trap him there for the next 20 years.

Seriously, ignoring power in a lame attempt to upend AMD's release is trivially easy and an embarrassing admission of impotence. I recall AMD did the same about 10 years ago. I laughed back then but now it is obvious Intel was playing in easy mode for years. Their systemic corruption is finally coming home to roost.
 

BigDaveX

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The intern was told to go work on some mediocre proprietary in house flow that would trap him there for the next 20 years.

Seriously, ignoring power in a lame attempt to upend AMD's release is trivially easy and an embarrassing admission of impotence. I recall AMD did the same about 10 years ago. I laughed back then but now it is obvious Intel was playing in easy mode for years. Their systemic corruption is finally coming home to roost.

More like the utter failure of their 10nm process is coming home to roost. Intel were likely thinking they'd be competing against AMD with Icelake by now, instead of a modified 4 year-old CPU on the fourth or fifth revision of a 5 year-old manufacturing process.
 

dmens

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More like the utter failure of their 10nm process is coming home to roost. Intel were likely thinking they'd be competing against AMD with Icelake by now, instead of a modified 4 year-old CPU on the fourth or fifth revision of a 5 year-old manufacturing process.
100% of Intel's technical woes can be traced back to a culture of corruption and an absolutely perverse system of rewards and incentives inside the company. Ask me how I know.
 

lobz

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The intern was told to go work on some mediocre proprietary in house flow that would trap him there for the next 20 years.

Seriously, ignoring power in a lame attempt to upend AMD's release is trivially easy and an embarrassing admission of impotence. I recall AMD did the same about 10 years ago. I laughed back then but now it is obvious Intel was playing in easy mode for years. Their systemic corruption is finally coming home to roost.
or on an imaginary 5G modem
 
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jpiniero

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More like the utter failure of their 10nm process is coming home to roost. Intel were likely thinking they'd be competing against AMD with Icelake by now, instead of a modified 4 year-old CPU on the fourth or fifth revision of a 5 year-old manufacturing process.

Well, it's gonna be five.

Skylake
Kabylake
Coffee Lake
Coffee Lake Refresh
Comet Lake

And then of course Rocket Lake but we don't know if it's going to use the Skylake core or something else.
 

amrnuke

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Well, it's gonna be five.

Skylake
Kabylake
Coffee Lake
Coffee Lake Refresh
Comet Lake

And then of course Rocket Lake but we don't know if it's going to use the Skylake core or something else.

Rocket Lake is reported to need rain-birds from the shuttle launch pad for cooling, hence the name.
 

TheGiant

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Rocket Lake is reported to need rain-birds from the shuttle launch pad for cooling, hence the name.

and we need moar power!




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gorobei

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Those fans seem to be on the motherboard chipset, not the VRMs. The VRMs on my X370 Taichi could probably handle an R9 3900x, no problem.

Also, don't expect Intel to "just add more cores". That's what 10c Comet Lake is going to be; the 3900X will kill it. If AMD launches a 16c Matisse at the same time, it'll be even worse for Intel.
im guessing amd wanted to see what intel could come up with, if cometlake was capable of a 12c monolithic then they would release the 16c ryzen with everything else. since intel cant go that far, amd can just wait until later to release the 16c.

Mmm mmm, finger licken good.

Just how many 9900K chips do we need anyway? 9900K, 9900KFC, 9900KS, what next?
9900KScityBBQ?
 

Eddward

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Running cool and quiet ~4,5Ghz Ice Lake and still much more powerfull will be so satisfactory against this power hungry, overheating CPU with ancient architecture. I'm already feeling sorry for the 9900KS owners. They will be a new "Kaby Lake" poor guys, if you know what I mean.
Of course it is a projection if everything goes well at Intel and we omit AMD for a moment
 

ZGR

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This CPU will probably be on benchmark graphs for quite some time. Basically this is what overclocked 9900k performance looks like.

The 9590 and the 9900ks are ridiculous products, but it was always neat seeing the performance difference between the 8350 and 9590 in tests.

I know a lot of people who are too scared to overclock. This product is for them, but they aren't the kind of user who shells out $500+ on a CPU...
 

jpiniero

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The question now becomes whether Intel will either source R0 stepping processors to reviewers in time for the Ryzen 3000 launch or convince them to disable the security fixes.
 

happy medium

Lifer
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More like the utter failure of their 10nm process is coming home to roost. Intel were likely thinking they'd be competing against AMD with Icelake by now, instead of a modified 4 year-old CPU on the fourth or fifth revision of a 5 year-old manufacturing process.
The thing is, it will still be the gaming king, crazy ha?
 

happy medium

Lifer
Jun 8, 2003
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This CPU will probably be on benchmark graphs for quite some time. Basically this is what overclocked 9900k performance looks like.

The 9590 and the 9900ks are ridiculous products, but it was always neat seeing the performance difference between the 8350 and 9590 in tests.

I know a lot of people who are too scared to overclock. This product is for them, but they aren't the kind of user who shells out $500+ on a CPU...
If a chip boost to 5ghz all cores, can it still be overclocked? I'm guessing yes. Sounds like a chip for real computer enthusiast, there are a few left on this forum. It should definitely separate the enthusiast from the cheerleaders.
I may buy one just to overclock with.
 

DisarmedDespot

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If a chip boost to 5ghz all cores, can it still be overclocked? I'm guessing yes. Sounds like a chip for real computer enthusiast, there are a few left on this forum. It should definitely separate the enthusiast from the cheerleaders.
I may buy one just to overclock with.
Eh? It sounds more like it's pushed to its limits out of the box.
 

Markfw

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How many volts does it require to achieve 5ghz boost? I missed that part? 1.4?
Why don't you reply back in November of this year, and let us know how it compares to AMD's 3800x/3900x. Until then, I don't think you have a prayer of it beating anything.
 
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