When they were fighting the Iranians for some reason they could shoot
It is hard for me to imagine a whole country of cowards.
Especially a country that has been through what Iraq has
I would think there are kids in Iraq with ten times the size of balls then a lot of men from a place like America
I don't have a pony in this race
Perhaps your projecting
I suppose it's like when posters tell me I'm actually scared of Islam, and they are the brave ones that stand against Muslims
I would think there are kids in Iraq with ten times the size of balls then a lot of men from a place like America
Go fuck yourself.
I don't know how any authoritarian Government is going to subject it's citizens to rule, without Religion, or Armies.
In this case the aggressor is Religion, and we (a secular nation) should squash it.
-John
Good. Not our problem....
But Obama can relax, I understand that Iran has already sent a few battalions... Looks like Iran has already got this handled...
Uno
the US spent 10+ yrs and $BILLIONS$ on training Iraq police and military...
WTF? cowards? or...?
Outside the Pentagon, some defense analysts said the real problem in Iraq rests not with cowardly soldiers, but with a corrupt government in Baghdad.
Maliki has corrupted and undermined the army, police and justice system in his consolidation of power and personal advantage, Anthony Cordesman and Sam Khazai, Middle East experts at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, wrote on the think tanks website. He cannot govern, and he represses and divides.
From the thread I posted above
There's a twisted irony in the fact that we overthrew a secular government under the guise of them being linked to Islamic extremists, when now 10 years later actual Islamic extremists are poised to take over the country because of our actions.
Guess who didn't see that coming!
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[FONT=georgia,times new roman,times,serif][FONT=georgia,times new roman,times,serif]Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:
A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.
B. No law that contradicts the principles of democracy may be established.
C. No law that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms stipulated in this constitution may be established.
I don't think you need to be a lawyer to understand the contradictions in Article 2. Making Islam the fundamental source for legislation is, in reality, a forced Islamisation of the civil laws in Iraq and enslavement of women according to the ethics of Sharia.[/FONT]
You know what kind of spin is coming from the Bush administration and neocon Iraqi apologists? I read something to this effect on a blog earlier on today, and something similar the other day at the National Review.
They know that Iraq will get an Islamic fundamentalist government. But instead they are saying that Iraq's Constitution will have a basis in Islam just like the American Constitution has a basis in Judeo-Christian philosophy. And laws in Iraq will not violate any Islamic principles. That's fair, right? Reasonable?
B.S. I'm not buying any of it. Iraq is going to get an Islamic fundamentalist anti-American government. That is the reality. The neocons+Bush have destabilized a situation which was probably better for the American people.
But we can't be to hard on conservatives for these outcomes because according to liberals they have a brain defect therefore excusing their repugnant behavior and beliefs,(Reuters) - About two dozen Iraqi women demonstrated on Saturday in Baghdad against a draft law approved by the Iraqi cabinet that would permit the marriage of nine-year-old girls and automatically give child custody to fathers.
The group's protest was on International Women's Day and a week after the cabinet voted for the legislation, based on Shi'ite Islamic jurisprudence, allowing clergy to preside over marriages, divorces and inheritances. The draft now goes to parliament.
"On this day of women, women of Iraq are in mourning," the protesters shouted.
"We believe that this is a crime against humanity," said Hanaa Eduar, a prominent Iraqi human rights activist. "It would deprive a girl of her right to live a normal childhood."
The UN's representative to Iraq, Nickolay Mladenov, also condemned the legislation. Mladenov wrote on Twitter the bill "risks constitutionally protected rights for women and international commitment".
The legislation goes to the heart of the divisions in Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003, as Shi'ite Islamists have come to lead the government and look to impose their religious values on society at large.
It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, makes the father sole guardian of his children at two and condones a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.
But we can't be to hard on conservatives for these outcomes because according to liberals they have a brain defect therefore excusing their repugnant behavior and beliefs,
what excuse do phony liberals have for staying silent or worse yet rationalizing this under some multicultural bs?
Thousands of Shiites from Baghdad and across southern Iraq answered an urgent call to arms Saturday, joining security forces to fight the Islamic militants who have captured large swaths of territory north of the capital and now imperil a city with a much-revered religious shrine.
The mobilization, urged by the nation's top Shiite cleric, took on a sectarian dimension that threatened to intensify Sunni-Shiite strife in a nation already ripped by religious fervor after the militants' battlefield successes.
http://abcnews.go.com/International...is-volunteer-fight-surging-militants-24138189
Have to see how this turns out I guess, but maybe Iraqis in general needed to see how bad it could get before being moved into action.
But we can't be to hard on conservatives for these outcomes because according to liberals they have a brain defect therefore excusing their repugnant behavior and beliefs,
what excuse do phony liberals have for staying silent or worse yet rationalizing this under some multicultural bs?
Haven't you seen 300?
I am not understanding why the Iraqi president and Leading Cleric is begging noobs to sign up. What ever happened to the Shia militias you know the ones we fought, the ones that ethically cleansed Southern Iraq? Strange.
That leading Cleric issued a fatwa demanding that those militias disband and that all religions should work together in building a better Iraq.
Now he thinks this new threat does not want that and called on people to fight against them
This is a huge mess. It would be better if we found a way to split Iraq up rather than force our Western vision on a people who never wanted it to begin with.
We kept pushing Iraq out of it's own ground state dynamics by injecting the energy of our demands of how Iraqis are expected to behave. Now a new equibrium will be reached by blood shed.
That is stupid of them to do period. They can expect no more mass surrenders of Iraqi soldiers and policemen in the future. They have now made it clear that it is better to die fighting against them to the bitter end then it is to simply grant them an easy win on the battle field by surrendering. This is militarily a huge mistake on their part.
That is stupid of them to do period. They can expect no more mass surrenders of Iraqi soldiers and policemen in the future. They have now made it clear that it is better to die fighting against them to the bitter end then it is to simply grant them an easy win on the battle field by surrendering. This is militarily a huge mistake on their part.