Are jeans considered Business Casual?

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SpunkyJones

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
IMO, jeans are regular casual. Business casual would be khakis/slacks.

Totally casual work environments FTW! I'm sitting here in jeans and a long sleeve t-shirt, rocking out to Hard Sun by Eddie Vedder ("Into the Wild" soundtrack). I have no fears about my tattoos being visible.
/gloat

same thing here, cept different song

Ditto, but I'm also not wearing my shoes, they come off at the same time I take off my jacket.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
IMO, jeans are regular casual. Business casual would be khakis/slacks.

Totally casual work environments FTW! I'm sitting here in jeans and a long sleeve t-shirt, rocking out to Hard Sun by Eddie Vedder ("Into the Wild" soundtrack). I have no fears about my tattoos being visible.
/gloat
is a long-sleeve t-shirt still a t-shirt? just curious
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: Raduque
Business Casual ftl. Stupid dress codes.

Ditto. I've never understood dress codes in offices where you never physically interact with clients.

The only argument FOR them in that situation that ever made any sense was that they encourage a professional atmosphere. To me, it's the people that make it professional, not their clothes.

edit: I'm at work, in jeans and a teeshirt. About one in ten people I work with dress like they're on their way to a punk rock show.
Don't you ever watch Futurama?
"After all, I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. These fancy clothes do!"


Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Steve
So, where do corduroys stand?

on their own if you don't use fabric softener.
Heh, that reminds me of what my grandfather told me about denim jeans before they came all thoroughly pre-washed - they were solid enough that they'd stand on their own. He was "lucky" in that sense though. He grew up during the Depression, so all his clothes were hand-me-downs from his brothers, so they were broken-in by the time he got them.
 
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we're business casual, but I see more and more jeans slipping in with the office people. We work in construction, but for office people there's no need to wear jeans unless you're visiting a site and expect bad conditions.
 

Scarpozzi

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I'm lazy and like to wear jeans in the winter/shorts in the summer.

I occasionally dress up in shirt & tie or whatever... But few people see me. My office is in a basement. (WWII era bomb shelter turned datacenter)
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Business Casual in my office means everything but the suit jacket.

I know, it seems companies all say this to sound good but a lot of them mean business pretty much, really sucks. I work business casual and I have to dress quite nice its annoying. What I wouldnt give to have the same rules as my last job of jeans and tshirt.
 

Martin

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usually means no jeans. Good luck with the oppressive new work environment though!

The unofficial policy here is that one has to wear clothes. Sure, it can be restrictive, but I get by...
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: Raduque
Business Casual ftl. Stupid dress codes.

Ditto. I've never understood dress codes in offices where you never physically interact with clients.

The only argument FOR them in that situation that ever made any sense was that they encourage a professional atmosphere. To me, it's the people that make it professional, not their clothes.

edit: I'm at work, in jeans and a teeshirt. About one in ten people I work with dress like they're on their way to a punk rock show.

suppose to make people act/work more like professionals, makes no sense to me either. I worked somewhere with the casual business dress code on fridays for everyone. but the Data Center dudes had no dress code ever. I worked in the Data Center too, so on more than one Friday where everyone ever got to dress down for a day I would dress up for no reason other than to piss them off haha. Some of them really hated me.

the other 4 days of the week I was the misfit in the data center with the public enemy teeshirt and baggy jeans.

Data Centers for teh wins!
 

alkemyst

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business causal can include jeans...but more often does not. Sometimes it only means jacket and tie are not required.

Your HR dept should have a pretty straight dress code listing.

In my company it's khakis and with boat style shoes or loafers preferred, but jeans and athletic shoes can be worn providing the jeans are 'plain' and not torn, worn or frayed. The sneakers cannot be overly 'loud'. No T-Shirts and nothing with 'print'.

Women cannot wear shoes that flop with they walk, low cut shirts or any skirt above mid thigh or that becomes indecent when performing their job duties.

What happens a lot of times is people ruin it by trying to push the dresscode. A lot of times its women coming in with nipples poking through the sheerest top and no bra or an ultra mini that hits the thigh limit but scoots way up when they sit and move. A few times it's been guys wearing tore up jeans with the nutsac of their briefs visible.

So far in my current job, no one has abused it enough to ruin it while I have been there. But we did loose casual dress for 3 years prior to me getting there when the CEO came and witnessed some really bad dress.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Just over dress the first time and then see what everyone else wears.

that is what i would do. at least wear a blazer, some slacks, a dress shirt and a proper pair of shoes.
 

Kelemvor

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Generally BC means nice pants and a polo shirt or some other collared shirt. At least everywhere I've ever worked, that's what it has been.
 

Judgement

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They label where I work as business casual, but there are definitely no jeans allowed. I can't even wear polo shirts... it has to be a button down.

I don't have to wear a tie though... I honestly think their definition of business casual is flawed and dated
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Judgement
They label where I work as business casual, but there are definitely no jeans allowed. I can't even wear polo shirts... it has to be a button down.

I don't have to wear a tie though... I honestly think their definition of business casual is flawed and dated

That because business casual is slacks and a dress shirt, no tie or jacket.

The Dotcom era brought about the loosening of the business casual standard, although its slowly creeping back to what it was pre-dot com.
 

onlyCOpunk

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I was always taught that business casual is the suit without the tie and jacket. Hell I even got turned away at a Business school function once because I wasn't "business casual" enough, so maybe a tie is in order.

If one wants to get anywhere in the business world then all of these silly dress codes should be learned regardless of like. But I can say there is nothing finer then wearing a fine tailored suit.
 

Daverino

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A good rule of thumb is business casual is whatever your boss wears on Friday. Rarely should you use your coworker's attire to gauge your own. Use that of someone on a track that you want to follow. Then it's obvious how they dressed to get there. Honestly, a suit and tie every day office is easy and stress free as far as attire. There's never any doubt as to how you should look. But if your coworkers are wearing jeans and sweatshirts on Fridays, but your boss is in shirt sleeves and wool pants. . . wear the shirt sleeves and wool pants.
 

middlehead

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My last job, the HR Director explained their dress code as "Any pants better than jeans, no shorts, any shirt with a collar, and stop wearing it if you find a hole."
 
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