Are parents obligated to care for mentally challenged children past the age of 18?

BlamoHammer

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Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.

While I understand your points, I disagree. You made the decision to bring this child into the world, no matter what you should care for this person like they are yourself.

 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.

While I understand your points, I disagree. You made the decision to bring this child into the world, no matter what you should care for this person like they are yourself.

well you can say that nowadays sometimes with ultrasound tests and whatnot, but often times in the past, and even in the present, it is impossible for parents to know that a child will turn out like that.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.

While I understand your points, I disagree. You made the decision to bring this child into the world, no matter what you should care for this person like they are yourself.

well you can say that nowadays sometimes with ultrasound tests and whatnot, but often times in the past, and even in the present, it is impossible for parents to know that a child will turn out like that.

Yeah, but even if I knew that my child would be mentally challenged it would not change how much I loved them. Creating life is one of the greatest gifts man can give to himself.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.

While I understand your points, I disagree. You made the decision to bring this child into the world, no matter what you should care for this person like they are yourself.

well you can say that nowadays sometimes with ultrasound tests and whatnot, but often times in the past, and even in the present, it is impossible for parents to know that a child will turn out like that.


Usually the parents will find out that their child is handicapped by the time he or she reaches 1st-2nd grade. Academic setbacks will start to present themselves and the school will tell the parents that they should have their child tested.


 

gopunk

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Yeah, but even if I knew that my child would be mentally challenged it would not change how much I loved them. Creating life is one of the greatest gifts man can give to himself.

how mentally challenged? slight ADD? yea, okay. what if the kid is severely autistic? he doesn't acknowledge or reciprocate your love at all, frequently engages in self-destructive behavior, and attacks you with blunt objects. there is no hope of him ever changing. yea, i'm sure there are some people out there that are somehow able to keep it together for 30 years of this, but such patience is few and far between. i'm sorry, but i can't pass judgement on people that choose not to go through that.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: tec699
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Perhaps not legally but I would think out of common decency they would make sure that a person, who cannot take care of themselves, is taken care of.

I agree completely. My mom has a doctorate degree in Special Education and she is currently a principal at local High School. The stories that she tells me about some of the kids that she has to deal with with are really upsetting. I would say 90% of them come from dysfunctional familes where the parents were torn apart because of the child, and the child is left to fend for himself.

It's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy, it really makes you take a step back from life and realize how lucky those of use without such handicapps are. If one of my children were to be mentally challenged I would make sure that no matter what they recieved the best treatment and care that anybody could, but I would also make sure not to treat them like they are different from everyone else. They are human too and they have feelings just like everyone else. Just because they are different doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same quality of life that everyone else does.

that's true, but i can also understand the position of their families... it's really tough to care for a child that never grows up and in some cases doesn't even reciprocate your love. it's easy to say that yea, you should always take care of these people, but it's easier said than done. people are people, not saints, they have their own lives and happiness to think about.

While I understand your points, I disagree. You made the decision to bring this child into the world, no matter what you should care for this person like they are yourself.

well you can say that nowadays sometimes with ultrasound tests and whatnot, but often times in the past, and even in the present, it is impossible for parents to know that a child will turn out like that.


Usually the parents will find out that their child is handicapped by the time he or she reaches 1st-2nd grade. Academic setbacks will start to present themselves and the school will tell the parents that they should have their child tested.

at which point it would be too late to make the decision regarding bringing the child into the world or not...
 

Gooberlx2

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...it's amazing how something extremely simple makes a mentally challenged child happy...

So true. In highschool I brought my cat in one day as a "show-and-tell" for the special-ed class. They LOVED it, seriously it completely brightened up their day. I could tell and the teacher could certainly tell. She thanked me profoundly, and asked me to come back with her. I would have been happy to, and my cat would have loved the extra attention....but the fvcking garbage scooter people ran over the poor girl the next week. :| I was devastated and we couldn't tell the kids because it would have upset them greatly.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Yeah, but even if I knew that my child would be mentally challenged it would not change how much I loved them. Creating life is one of the greatest gifts man can give to himself.

how mentally challenged? slight ADD? yea, okay. what if the kid is severely autistic? he doesn't acknowledge or reciprocate your love at all, frequently engages in self-destructive behavior, and attacks you with blunt objects. there is no hope of him ever changing. yea, i'm sure there are some people out there that are somehow able to keep it together for 30 years of this, but such patience is few and far between. i'm sorry, but i can't pass judgement on people that choose not to go through that.

I've been around people that are severely autistic, and while I understand your points, I still think that no matter how a person is if you brought them into the world you should take care of them like they are yourself.

btw..

<----drunk
 

Balt

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I think most (if not all) states have social services facilities to take care of them. My aunt stays in one, though my grandmother still spends plenty of time with her.

It's part of what Social Security pays for, I think. Could be wrong about that, though.
 

Ender

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My vanity would prevent me from siring a mentally challenged child. I'd like my child to achieve goals in life and be proud of him or her. Having a child that merely passes through life with nothing accomplished upsets me profoundly.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: Ender
My vanity would prevent me from siring a mentally challenged child. I'd like my child to achieve goals in life and be proud of him or her. Having a child that merely passes through life with nothing accomplished upsets me profoundly.

Well, what have you accomplished that's so special?
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Ender
My vanity would prevent me from siring a mentally challenged child. I'd like my child to achieve goals in life and be proud of him or her. Having a child that merely passes through life with nothing accomplished upsets me profoundly.

Well, what have you accomplished that's so special?

He's accomplished the art of w*cking off in the right hand while he flips through a playboy or a playgirl magazine in his left hand.

 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: Ender
My vanity would prevent me from siring a mentally challenged child. I'd like my child to achieve goals in life and be proud of him or her. Having a child that merely passes through life with nothing accomplished upsets me profoundly.

Goals are relative, if my child had a severe mental handicap I would be extremely proud if they graduated high school and attended College.
 

Ender

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Only scholarships for university at this point (Senior in high school). Based on only academics, I'm afraid, but I was never actually motivated by my parents to do anything even from the beginning of my schooling.
 

Ender

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: Ender
My vanity would prevent me from siring a mentally challenged child. I'd like my child to achieve goals in life and be proud of him or her. Having a child that merely passes through life with nothing accomplished upsets me profoundly.

Goals are relative, if my child had a severe mental handicap I would be extremely proud if they graduated high school and attended College.

Again, my very vanity prevents me from sharing in your idea that such a thing demands respect. I compare accomplishments relative to my peers (i.e. society as a whole). I would like others to respect my child just as much as I would. People may respect a mentally handicapped child for graduating high school, but it's only because they're sympathetic to the child's mental handicap.
 
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