Are people really proud that they or their child went to xxx community college?

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TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: Isla
BTW, I did my first two years at St Petersburg Jr College which is now St Petersburg College. It was an awesome school and I recommend it to anyone like myself who pays their own way through school.

That's the way I see it. Maybe we should ask the original poster if they paid for their own college with their own money.
 

gopunk

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it's all relative folks. of course if you are harvard alum and your grandfather, and so on, you would be probably be really ashamed. but if your child was the first one in the family to go to any sort of higher education institution, you would probably be proud. my own view is that CC is lowly, but as long as your family line is moving up the education chain, that is all that matters. as in, sure you can graduate from a CC but if your child then goes to an even better school, and so on, it's all good.

and no, cc does not equal harvard or MIT. you have to friggin' kidding me. i go to a Tier 1 school but i don't even pretend that my school is the same.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: Isla
BTW, I did my first two years at St Petersburg Jr College which is now St Petersburg College. It was an awesome school and I recommend it to anyone like myself who pays their own way through school.

That's the way I see it. Maybe we should ask the original poster if they paid for their own college with their own money.

Yes I did. And everything I have and all the money I made was through my hard work.

The reason I posted this was because of a conversation I had with my wife. We see alot of cars with these window stickers for certain CCs, one of which she went to for 2 years before getting a pharmacy degree at a state university, and we are like "what's the big deal?" Why bother advertising that stuff? If I had stickers for everything I was proud of I wouldn't be able to see out any window in my car.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: Isla
BTW, I did my first two years at St Petersburg Jr College which is now St Petersburg College. It was an awesome school and I recommend it to anyone like myself who pays their own way through school.

That's the way I see it. Maybe we should ask the original poster if they paid for their own college with their own money.

Yes I did. And everything I have and all the money I made was through my hard work.

The reason I posted this was because of a conversation I had with my wife. We see alot of cars with these window stickers for certain CCs, one of which she went to for 2 years before getting a pharmacy degree at a state university, and we are like "what's the big deal?" Why bother advertising that stuff? If I had stickers for everything I was proud of I wouldn't be able to see out any window in my car.

this is true.... i don't have a dual-monitors sticker. or a "i look good" sticker.



 

OulOat

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I agree that community colleges in some ways are nicer than big universities. Classes are smaller, teachers spend more time with their students. But bragging about how your child went to a school that DOESN'T REJECT ANYONE is ridiculous. Yes, going to any college is better than just finishing high school, but life is a race, and the second place is nothing to brag about. Getting into an IVY league school isn?t easy, and staying in isn?t a walk in the park either. Compare that to a community college where if you can pay the bill you are in. In no way am I saying that good universities professors are better than community colleges teachers, I know several excellent CC teachers that I wished I had at my university. But what makes a school good? Is it their teachers, their resources, their staff? No, it?s there students and the future jobs they secure that make a school good. Yes, the previous factors affect the students when they are deciding which school to attend, but it is the students that build the image of the school.

Whoever said that community colleges and big universities are basically the same needs to get his reality checked. If they are all the same, why is there no shortage of people willing to spend 50000 instead of 1000 if they got in? And you are labeling some of the smartest people in the world as a ?self-involved snob.? I?m not going to argue that CC?s don?t have hard working people; anyone can work as hard, but not everyone is as intelligent.

Then comes the issue of hiring. I challenge anyone to name a company anywhere in this world that won?t want the best employees. Yes, one can be overqualified, but generally, who doesn?t want the best? All things set equal, there is more of a chance that the person from a good school than from your local CC. And it?s all about name recognition. It?s the same reason why Cover Letters with recommendations from current employees receive more attention. Same reason why we buy Nike. Here, quickly, name off one school of higher education in Britain. Cambridge, Oxford, Exeter, Warwick, Edinburgh? or did you name off a CC?
 
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Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: everman
There's idiots in Harvard and MIT etc. as there are in any community college and all colleges in between. Maybe you went to a good school, but did you learn anything? --that's what an employer is concerned with.
Hardly. Some employers won't even look at your resume if the applicant graduated from a community college.

As for those who think community college work is on par with 4-yr University work, you cannot be more wrong. At a community college, they expect less out of you. There are less labs, there are leniency when it comes to grading, and the tests WAY easier. If you truly think the work is the same, I suggest that you try it for yourself.

NOT TRUE, and I know of what I speak. A lot of CC classes actually expect MORE from you, because the know a lot of the students will be going on to a 4 year college. I don't think anyone is saying two years at a CC can compete with 4 years at a U, but those two years at either give you about the same level of education, with a CC being much, much cheaper.
 

milagro

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I guess it's better than having a bumper sticker that says "My kid is a worthless piece of crap that finished high school, didn't go on to college, flips burgers for a living, and sleeps in my basement".

....on the other hand, you could probably sell quite a few of those
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: milagro
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I guess it's better than having a bumper sticker that says "My kid is a worthless piece of crap that finished high school, didn't go on to college, flips burgers for a living, and sleeps in my basement".

....on the other hand, you could probably sell quite a few of those

LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Excellent quote material.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: everman
There's idiots in Harvard and MIT etc. as there are in any community college and all colleges in between. Maybe you went to a good school, but did you learn anything? --that's what an employer is concerned with.
Hardly. Some employers won't even look at your resume if the applicant graduated from a community college.

As for those who think community college work is on par with 4-yr University work, you cannot be more wrong. At a community college, they expect less out of you. There are less labs, there are leniency when it comes to grading, and the tests WAY easier. If you truly think the work is the same, I suggest that you try it for yourself.

NOT TRUE, and I know of what I speak. A lot of CC classes actually expect MORE from you, because the know a lot of the students will be going on to a 4 year college. I don't think anyone is saying two years at a CC can compete with 4 years at a U, but those two years at either give you about the same level of education, with a CC being much, much cheaper.

actually dullard said that:

There is no difference between a good community college and Harvard or MIT.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: vi_edit

Community Colleges simply do not have the funds or clout to offer these things over big schools.

An outdated and archaic view. My first job out of college was at a local CC and it was an absolutely first-rate facility. The labs and library were superior to universities with tuition 10 times greater. One of the CS teachers was a lead designer on the Mars lander. I wish I had gone there. Sure many CC's are crap, but so are many 4 year universities.
 

Isla

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Actually, in my family I am the under achiever. My sister got accepted to Sarah Lawrence but we couldn't afford it. My mother and her brothers went to a nice private college (University of Tampa) and I have other siblings and cousins who went to 'better' schools than I did.

The point is, people can be proud for whatever they want to be proud for.

Who are any of us to be derisive?

Of course, I work with special ed kids so I get excited when some of them finally figure out how to tell time. Or when one finally gets mainstreamed into a regular class... it is cause for a celebration. So to me, a parent should be proud of any accomplishment their child makes, if it was made with honest effort.

I guess it all depends on what you value in life.
 

Noirish

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i went to UCB.
i don't really think it was that impressive.
what did it get me?
a certificate to better jobs, that's it.

as to stickers, i'm turned off by them.
why ruin my ride with those fugly stickies?

vw jetta rules!!!
 

LH

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Id say the large "CC's" have some of the same state of the art labs as other places. It all depends on the area and the industry around the area, as there are quite a number of people who work in various industries that teach part time at Community Colleges.

Also alot of people that attend CCs go on to 4 year universities. I know alot of people that wish they had taken their first year or two at a quality CC's it would have saved them $5000-10000 for what would have amounted to the same level of education(they took summer classes at the CC). Im sorry but unless your daddy is rich or you get a scholarship an Ivy league school is a waste of time. I know a couple of Dr's that went to state run schools, and they are very competent Drs. They knew alot that went to prestigious Ivy league schools etc, all they had to show for it was tons of debt.

The smart thing to do if you are paying for school yourself, is not to go to school at Ivy Leage or Private schools. Its a huge waste of money, money that wont ever be recovered because you went to SO & SO.
 
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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: vi_edit

Community Colleges simply do not have the funds or clout to offer these things over big schools.

An outdated and archaic view. My first job out of college was at a local CC and it was an absolutely first-rate facility. The labs and library were superior to universities with tuition 10 times greater. One of the CS teachers was a lead designer on the Mars lander. I wish I had gone there. Sure many CC's are crap, but so are many 4 year universities.

Also, CC's don't have anywhere near the overhead that universties have for the things that have little to no effect on the quality of the classroom.
 

Ryan

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I'm going to Gulf Coast Community College in Panama City Fl, and my school is rated as one of the best and most advanced CCs in the nation, no tot mention we have some of the best CC sports teams in the country. We have computers in almost every English classroom, and have many advanced labs. HOnestly, I think going there is one of the smartest moves I have ever made. All of my Professors have been professors at larger colleges, but they moved to GCCC because it is that good. FSU has a campus accross the street from my school, but it's only for college student is their 3rd and 4th year of college. Almost all students who are attending the Panama City Campus did their first two years at Guld Coast CC. It says a lot when a huge university like FSU builds a two year campus in our city just because our community college is that good

 

Jugernot

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: optoman
Its better than your kid not going to anykind of school after high school.

True but why advertise it?

He already said why, "Its better than your kid not going to anykind of school after high school."

They are trying to give their child (even if they are an adult) support by showing that they support their going to a college. True, it might not be the most prestigous place, but he'll still be smart than when he started. Any college education, even community colleges, is better than none at all.
 

human2k

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Originally posted by: Willoughbyva
I went to a pretty good community college. I don't have a sticker on my car or anything like that, but I enjoyed my time there and liked it for the most part. It costs a lot less than the first two years at a four year school too. Also in my state community college offers 4 year degrees through a 4 year institution. There is an off campus site at each community college in the state plus some in Washington State, Navada, the Bahammas, and other places.

No these schools are not MIT or Harvard, but they offer a decent education and most of the people I talked to liked being there. You can park at a 5 minutes walk from class and the schools are not old and run down etc. The school I go to always has better computers and equipment (in general) than the 4 years schools in my area.

Preach on....
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian


Also, CC's don't have anywhere near the overhead that universties have for the things that have little to no effect on the quality of the classroom.

Yeah, many of the "prestgious" professors at "prestigious" schools don't even teach, they research and let their grad students/slaves teach. And you will probably get more individualized instruction at a CC than a mid to large sized university. My first year calc class had 75 freaking people in it.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: human2k
Originally posted by: Willoughbyva
I went to a pretty good community college. I don't have a sticker on my car or anything like that, but I enjoyed my time there and liked it for the most part. It costs a lot less than the first two years at a four year school too. Also in my state community college offers 4 year degrees through a 4 year institution. There is an off campus site at each community college in the state plus some in Washington State, Navada, the Bahammas, and other places.

No these schools are not MIT or Harvard, but they offer a decent education and most of the people I talked to liked being there. You can park at a 5 minutes walk from class and the schools are not old and run down etc. The school I go to always has better computers and equipment (in general) than the 4 years schools in my area.

Preach on....

 

ultimatebob

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There is nothing wrong with getting a community college education, but don't expect to become a senior executive with it. If you look at the top management of almost any Fortune 500 company, you'll see a lot of Yale, Harvard, MIT, and Stanford graduates. Sadly, many of those managers aren't there because of their superior leadership skills, but because the shareholders of those companies like to see colleges with those names in the management bio section of their annual reports. When it comes to corporate marketing and public relations, perception is 90% of reality.
 
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