If there are supernatural beings then pretty much every thing we know about physics is rubbish.
Thats a really high bar to ask people to entertain with literally no evidence supporting it.
Call what Dark Energy? A supernatural consciousness that can breach all the fundamental laws of the universe that we have and can converse with humans?Just call it Dark Energy
Call what Dark Energy? A supernatural consciousness that can breach all the fundamental laws of the universe that we have and can converse with humans?
Thats not something I'm going to accept exists without any evidence.
Has anyone heard of this preacher. Bill Wiese.
Bill has a book out called "23 minutes in hell." In the book he claims that he was transported to hell from his bed. What's funny is he can't show actual proof which makes these type of claims perfect to scam frightened people out of their money. Of course, he's sold millions and millions copies of his book. He has a net worth that totals in the millions. So, you too can buy his book for only $10.95, plus a follow up book for $14.95 and a dvd. BTW, those YT comments are priceless and sad.
None of that is supernatural and none of that involves a consciousness that transcends natural laws.I mean actual Dark Energy, a name given to a cosmological phenomenon we have no idea is about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
"In physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form of energy that affects the universe on the largest scales. The first observational evidence for its existence came from supernovae measurements, which showed that the universe does not expand at a constant rate; rather, the expansion of the universe is accelerating.[1][2] Understanding the evolution of the universe requires knowledge of its starting conditions and its composition. Prior to these observations, the only forms of matter-energy known to exist were ordinary matter, antimatter, dark matter, and radiation. Measurements of the cosmic microwave background suggest the universe began in a hot Big Bang, from which general relativity explains its evolution and the subsequent large scale motion. Without introducing a new form of energy, there was no way to explain how an accelerating universe could be measured. "
You got guys like this that are insanely rich too
People are fucking dumb
How do you know that? We'd have to know everything for that to be true, but yet we are stuck here pretty much on our planet with a couple of us getting into orbit here and there.None of that is supernatural and none of that involves a consciousness that transcends natural laws.
In short none of that has anything to do with God.
Because we don't know everything therefore God isn't a sensible argument.Couple good articles on the matter:
Can Science Rule Out God?
We must understand the laws of nature before we can deduce their originsblogs.scientificamerican.com
The Boundaries Between Science and Religion: Alan Lightman on Different Kinds of Knowledge
“The physical universe is subject to rational analysis and the methods of science. The spiritual universe is not. All of us have had experiences that are not subject to rational analysis. Besides religion, much of our art and our values and our personal relationships with other people spring...fs.blog
And in some way they only deal with one God. Who are we to say IF there is even one supernatural being that it is only one? It could be zero, it could be 1,000 spread throughout infinite galaxies.
Because we don't know everything therefore God isn't a sensible argument.
We don't know it all, we will never know it all. But to just pass not knowing off on a some god is far worse than not knowing. It's the lazy way out, it is the stupid way out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not knowing.The origins of the universe are simply not known with conflicting theories and new information being discovered such as dark energy. There is literally so much we don't know about our own existence nevermind the machinations of stuff light years away and 13+ billion years ago. Perhaps out of nothing there was a singularity. Or it's part of the latest way we have convinced ourselves we know it all. And that is it. Or perhaps not. I have seen no evidence of a God or Gods per se, and despise pretty much all organized religion, but I have also not seen enough evidence that we truly understand everything going on in the universe around us either. While I lean towards their being no god or gods, I can't pretend to know that either. We are a tiny speck in a galaxy among many galaxies. Therefore we can't proclaim we know there are no supernatural beings in the universe.
That's exactly what an agnostic is, not knowing. That's the entire point.We don't know it all, we will never know it all. But to just pass not knowing off on a some god is far worse than not knowing. It's the lazy way out, it is the stupid way out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not knowing.
It's the physics or science that is the unknown or understood. To pass it off that "maybe" there is some kind of being responsible really boggles reason.That's exactly what an agnostic is, not knowing. That's the entire point.
Much the same for me, and while I have no animosity for true believers, I do recognize the threat they pose to society. They cannot be converted, but reading personal accounts of how some theists lost their belief and became atheists, it was because they began to think and most importantly question what they had been taught to believe.I suspect they are confusing atheism with antitheism. As far as I'm concerned atheism just means an absence of belief. I wasn't bought up with any religious belief, ergo I don't have any, and neither do the vast majority of people I've known in life, but I don't spend much time being angry about those who do believe or trying to convert them.
Has anyone heard of this preacher. Bill Wiese.
Bill has a book out called "23 minutes in hell." In the book he claims that he was transported to hell from his bed. What's funny is he can't show actual proof which makes these type of claims perfect to scam frightened people out of their money. Of course, he's sold millions and millions copies of his book. He has a net worth that totals in the millions. So, you too can buy his book for only $10.95, plus a follow up book for $14.95 and a dvd. BTW, those YT comments are priceless and sad.
That's exactly what an agnostic is, not knowing. That's the entire point.
Totally agnostic. This universe is much too large for me to ever really understand. I gladly admit, I have no idea.
It's the physics or science that is the unknown or understood. To pass it off that "maybe" there is some kind of being responsible really boggles reason.
I never said I don't believe in science. Science is still learning aplenty though. https://earthsky.org/space/definition-what-is-dark-energy#:~:text=Dark energy is the name,learned the universe is expanding.
I strongly believe in science in many ways, there are lots of rules in our world that we have discovered, and plenty mysteries too. I think organized religion is total bullshit and mostly evil or detrimental to society. Just look at our current Evangelical population - majority terrible. Radical Islam? Horrible. Even Buddhism is very misogynistic.
I certainly don't claim there is a god or multiple gods. But we are barely scratching the surface of what we know about the Universe, so I think being so presumptious as to say there is absolutely no chance in hell (pun intended) that anything transcends the rules of the physical world we currently know now is premature.
The founding fathers of USA were not on board when Mayflower arrived at Cape Cod. Two very different group of people roughly a century apart.
Yeah, but when you said "This country was created as a haven from religious and monarchical persecution/subjugation. " that's gilding the lilly rather.
The desire of the Puritans to be free to persecute others was a significant strand of US culture from the start. The founding fathers by no means were entirely of one mind when it came to religion.