Are there any full-sized ovens that run on 120V?

Rakehellion

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I've got a gas range in my kitchen, but no oven. Is there a better option than just getting a big toaster oven? I've got a big pan and like to make roasts so I want something that can accommodate larger cookware.

Another thing I could do is just install a gas one, but I'm looking for something a lot cheaper and smaller.
 

Greenman

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I've never seen a 120v full sized oven.
When you say gas range, I assume you mean a gas cook top, and that there isn't an oven in the kitchen?
 

dbcooper1

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The problem is that to generate the same heat/power, a 120v oven would need twice the current as a 230v one and a 230v one already requires quite a bit. Also, some very heavy wiring all the way to the breaker panel and of course double the breaker capacity.
 

pcgeek11

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No they do not make them for very good reasons. Too much current.

Get a large toaster oven, or get a gas oven or get proper wiring and get a normal ( 220 VAC ) electric oven.
 

NetWareHead

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Either oven is going to be expensive. I would think it depends more on features, manufacturer, warranty etc... rather than whether gas or electric. You are in a good position that you can choose either fuel. You are going to have to go with 240 volt line, I have never heard of a 120 volt oven.

Running a gas line is usually a bit harder due to the diameter of the pipe vs an electric cable (in existing construction) but is offset by gas's lower operating costs over time.
 

joutlaw

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Most home wiring will be 15A with some 20A at 120V - 1800-2400 theoretical watts. That simply is not enough wattage for your average oven. Most ovens will be 30A at 240V - 7200 theoretical max watts.
 

Rakehellion

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Most home wiring will be 15A with some 20A at 120V - 1800-2400 theoretical watts. That simply is not enough wattage for your average oven. Most ovens will be 30A at 240V - 7200 theoretical max watts.

Right, but that's with a huge oven and four burners going. I'd imagine with a smaller drawer and no burners you could swing something.

I guess what I'm asking is what's the biggest 120V oven there is?
 

NetWareHead

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I just don't think you will have luck powering full size kitchen oven with 120 volt circuit. Even an apartment sized 24 inch stove takes 240 volt circuit. Your best bet would be to get one of those set it and forget it rotesserie ovens from the infomercials which use 120 volts.
 

Binky

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Nah, I don't want a soggy turkey.

As stated by everybody here, you're pretty much stuck with a toaster oven or a "soggy turkey" oven. Both will work, but they both have obvious limitations. Hell, you could get a sous vide cooker and a torch.
 

allisolm

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I have a countertop microwave/convection oven that I have cooked turkeys in and baked bread in and it works fine. Interior is about 16 by 16 by 10" high. I use it as a secondary oven when needed. You can use microwave alone or convection alone or combine the 2. Maybe one of those would do for what you want?
 

DrPizza

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Any reason you can't simply put in a new 240V circuit? Circuit breaker: $25 Wire: <$50. Can either be hard wired, else a 240V outlet ($5-$10), and cord for the oven ($15). Depending on your construction, it could be as simple as a 30 minute job or less, to run the circuit.
 

Mandres

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Too many variables involved in running a new 240v line for most homeowners to take it on themselves. Sure it's not particularly hard if you know what you're doing, but 95% of people will hire an electrician at a cost of more than the stove.

Why not get a gas oven? People sell good used ones dirt cheap all the time when they move.
 

natto fire

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Any reason you can't simply put in a new 240V circuit? Circuit breaker: $25 Wire: <$50. Can either be hard wired, else a 240V outlet ($5-$10), and cord for the oven ($15). Depending on your construction, it could be as simple as a 30 minute job or less, to run the circuit.

This is great advice, except that it is rarely as simple as you make it out to be. First of all, if a panel has been handy-hacked then it is dangerous to open it up. I think your time estimate is awfully optimistic, and assumes that there are knockouts in the panel. Joe handyman does not have the means to get through a panel with uni-bits or carbide hole cutters. An experienced electrician would take a quite a while longer than 30 minutes even if they were lucky and had an exposed panel and minimal drywall cutting.

To say nothing of the fact that OP is probably a renter (most people in NYC are) and would probably be evicted for doing such extensive electrical work on his own. My brother got kicked out of his Brooklyn apartment for nothing more than the landlord didn't like him. It is much tougher in the city than rural New York like you are used to.
 

NetWareHead

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This is great advice, except that it is rarely as simple as you make it out to be. First of all, if a panel has been handy-hacked then it is dangerous to open it up. I think your time estimate is awfully optimistic, and assumes that there are knockouts in the panel. Joe handyman does not have the means to get through a panel with uni-bits or carbide hole cutters. An experienced electrician would take a quite a while longer than 30 minutes even if they were lucky and had an exposed panel and minimal drywall cutting.

What kind of panel are you describing that needs carbide cutters to open??

I think DrPizza's is reasonably accurate and not overly optimistic. Every job has variables but assuming a properly wired panel with room to add a double pole breaker is literally a 5 minute job. Snake the new wire in, clamp and there are only 4 conductors to connect inside the panel in this situation. An electrician can asses panel neatness and capacity by unscrewing the cover and see what he getting into.

The 30 minutes estimate is mostly spent running the wire and neatly stapling it up. A competent electrician can have a cable run and connected at both ends in one billable hour (assuming no cable snaking needed). Lets say $65 an hour for labor and we will use DRPizza's parts costs. Disagree only with cost of a 240 V double pole breaker; my jurisdiction requires arc-flash breakers which run from $60-90 so lets say $75.

Breaker $75
Wire $50
(No cord and outlet needed; my jurisdiction requires hard wired kitchen equipment)
Labor $65
Total = $190 for electrical install

For a 120 volt circuit install, the breaker cost shrinks to $50 and you might save $5-10 on the wire cost for a total savings of $30-35.
 

Mandres

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You're assuming that
1. The panel is right next to the stove and not down in the basement or out in the garage.
2. There is room in the panel for a new double pole breaker.

If either one of these is false this becomes a very costly job.
 

DrPizza

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This is great advice, except that it is rarely as simple as you make it out to be. First of all, if a panel has been handy-hacked then it is dangerous to open it up. I think your time estimate is awfully optimistic, and assumes that there are knockouts in the panel. Joe handyman does not have the means to get through a panel with uni-bits or carbide hole cutters. An experienced electrician would take a quite a while longer than 30 minutes even if they were lucky and had an exposed panel and minimal drywall cutting.

To say nothing of the fact that OP is probably a renter (most people in NYC are) and would probably be evicted for doing such extensive electrical work on his own. My brother got kicked out of his Brooklyn apartment for nothing more than the landlord didn't like him. It is much tougher in the city than rural New York like you are used to.
Most renters don't suddenly decide they want to buy a full sized oven when one doesn't already exist. I'd think it's rather rare to have to cut a new hole in a breaker box to install a new line - I didn't even realized this was allowed. I hope you understand "could be as simple as" - sure, it could be more complicated, but if the breaker is in an unfinished basement, which is relatively common in NY, and the breaker box isn't full - and the previous electrician did neat, competent work, then 30 minutes allows time for a beer. I'm sort of in the same situation - wife wants her new washer and dryer hooked up. It's going to take me longer to move them into the new laundry area than it is to hook up all new plumbing and wiring for the washer and dryer. (PVC drain, pex water supply, washing machine outlet box, etc.) That's because the existing doorway is a narrow doorway. Some renovations are taking place - and the washer and dryer won't fit through the current doorway. But, PVC drain line & vent, water supply lines, 240V outlet, and duct for the dryer won't take more than 2 hours. I'm not getting paid by the hour - I get my stuff done.
 

Red Squirrel

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That's odd, you don't have a 240 volt outlet in the kitchen like at all? Check in the basement around the kitchen area to see if there is a thicker electrical wire, maybe there was one and it got covered.

If not, I would just run another circuit as suggested. If they do make a 120v oven it will be "specialty" and cost more, and probably take forever to heat up if it's only 15 amps. If it's more than 15 amps, then you have to run a circuit anyway.

Actually if they make 15 amp 240v ovens one option is to just turn an existing circuit into 240v. Just be careful you can confirm that it's dedicated if you do that, and not connected to something else like lights.
 
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