Don't draw your conclusions just yet. Sales have plummeted in the last two quarters and believe it or not, consumers are driving a hard bargain. We need to see Q4 sales data before we speculate on where the market is heading.
I have read a few others here state that, so more power to you guys. I define fun differently. Making new demanding games run well on low end and older hardware, putting together purpose built systems, instead of building just one, that can do anything and everything. That's the part I find the most fun. Penny pinching and month after month expending effort looking to save a couple of $100 sounds like work, not fun. And if there is anything I have spent most of my life avoiding, it's that nasty 4 letter word.But part of the fun is getting a good deal/good value for your money.
The RDNA2 prices are the same here in Denmark as prior to the RDNA3 launch, but maybe it is just the usual price delay.
I saw the ASUS RX 6800 TUF available for almost $500 from Amazon UK for a few days before the RDNA3 launch. I almost never see an ASUS card competitively priced here in UAE. It's like ASUS uses pure gold or something.
Here in Denmark the state keeps its taxes, unless your name is Sanjay Shar....
I just like reading and discussing hardware just as much if not more than actual gaming. Some people like to go to flea markets, to find a good deal. If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't be doing it. And it is just recently, that some of the newer co-op games are starting to make my computer feel old, so I'm fine and I could at any time upgrade to whatever computer I wanted, but I know that when I finally do, every part will just as I wanted it to be.I have read a few others here state that, so more power to you guys. I define fun differently. Making new demanding games run well on low end and older hardware, putting together purpose built systems, instead of building just one, that can do anything and everything. That's the part I find the most fun. Penny pinching and month after month expending effort looking to save a couple of $100 sounds like work, not fun. And if there is anything I have spent most of my life avoiding, it's that nasty 4 letter word.
Right on.I just like reading and discussing hardware just as much if not more than actual gaming. Some people like to go to flea markets, to find a good deal. If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't be doing it. And it is just recently, that some of the newer co-op games are starting to make my computer feel old, so I'm fine and I could at any time upgrade to whatever computer I wanted, but I know that when I finally do, every part will just as I wanted it to be.
LANGUAGE!!!I have read a few others here state that, so more power to you guys. I define fun differently. Making new demanding games run well on low end and older hardware, putting together purpose built systems, instead of building just one, that can do anything and everything. That's the part I find the most fun. Penny pinching and month after month expending effort looking to save a couple of $100 sounds like work, not fun. And if there is anything I have spent most of my life avoiding, it's that nasty 4 letter word.
That sounds like work to meRight on.
I don't buy hardware, I rent it. Hence, I never expected my 20 series RTX cards or Vega to be an investment. I made a profit after selling all of them. Even after years of use. Normally, I use stuff, resell it, and consider the difference the rental fee.
I find here that Gigabyte cards are over priced.Seems pretty stable. I still glad I got a 6600XT back on launch day. Been enjoying RDNA2 for 1.5 years already.
That's just standard ASUS graphics card procedure. Must be 24 carat gold and assembled by the Queen at those prices.
Yes, that was quite the debacle...
Right on.
I don't buy hardware, I rent it. Hence, I never expected my 20 series RTX cards or Vega to be an investment. I made a profit after selling all of them. Even after years of use. Normally, I use stuff, resell it, and consider the difference the rental fee.
^^^^ That's a typo, right?
Concerning that word, here is a quote. I so wish people took more note of it, but we usually have the opposite.I have read a few others here state that, so more power to you guys. I define fun differently. Making new demanding games run well on low end and older hardware, putting together purpose built systems, instead of building just one, that can do anything and everything. That's the part I find the most fun. Penny pinching and month after month expending effort looking to save a couple of $100 sounds like work, not fun. And if there is anything I have spent most of my life avoiding, it's that nasty 4 letter word.
I think the reason for new gen high prices is that both Nvidia and AMD released a minuscule amount of inventory so far (200k units each). That and the high demand for anything new is a virtual guarantee for high prices. Its also imo the reason Nvidia priced the the 4080 so high (only 30,000 units released). Their pricing strategy is tied to the number of units they are releasing into the market. If they released a million units, its price would be very different.I haven't read last couple pages of this thread but for me the "4000 series is priced high due to 3000 series inventory" simply doesn't hold up. 3080s and 3090s including TIs are simply not available at all or still at insane prices of >$900 even for 3080s. Even local used market site isn't that flooded albeit you can get "mining rig" 3080s for around $550 and I saw a 3090 go for $770 ( I almost jumped in on the auction due to the value but then I don't really need the 24 gb ram and it sin't really worth $200 more than a 3080 for gaming IMHO). AMD 6000 series is also very dry. some 6800s for around $650. 6800 xt or higher? market completely dry. only 6750 XT is readily available. Radeons are also a rarity on used market and 6800 xt is usually more expensive than 3080s.
I haven't read last couple pages of this thread but for me the "4000 series is priced high due to 3000 series inventory" simply doesn't hold up. 3080s and 3090s including TIs are simply not available at all or still at insane prices of >$900 even for 3080s. Even local used market site isn't that flooded albeit you can get "mining rig" 3080s for around $550 and I saw a 3090 go for $770 ( I almost jumped in on the auction due to the value but then I don't really need the 24 gb ram and it sin't really worth $200 more than a 3080 for gaming IMHO). AMD 6000 series is also very dry. some 6800s for around $650. 6800 xt or higher? market completely dry. only 6750 XT is readily available. Radeons are also a rarity on used market and 6800 xt is usually more expensive than 3080s.
-I didn't see the highlights and thought you were talking about the prices. Prices in general aren't great but good lord NV prices are in a different league of outrageous right now.
Wonder if the bad mojo surrounding AMD's launch is actually depressing demand for older 6xxx series cards too.
Yeah, via pcpartpicker the 3050 is going for around $260-290. Still crazy given that is 1660TI/Super prices from 3 years ago though. 5% perf increase for same money. Yay.
1660 Super was $230 in 2019, more like 5% performance increase for 12% to 25% more money plus the three and half years lost you could have just been gaming on the 1660 Super instead of the presumably weaker gpu you upgraded from if getting a 3050. What a trash card.