Inflation is a female dog.
Yeah, via pcpartpicker the 3050 is going for around $260-290. Still crazy given that is 1660TI/Super prices from 3 years ago though. 5% perf increase for same money. Yay.
Similar to me, I forgot the exact price but I paid $230-ish for a 1660ti in July or August of 2019.I paid $220 for a Zotac 1660 in May of 2019 and $260 for an MSI 1660 super in November of 2020.
In theory. If I remember right, here in the US the 1660Super stayed at $230 for about two to four weeks before hitting $250-280. After awhile it was buy either the Ti or the Super which ever was cheaper.
Inflation is a female dog.
Hmmm me too, maybe it was 2020….I bought a 1660 Super from Best Buy for $240 in May or June 2020 if I remember right, and they had a couple of $230 models too but I wanted the single fan card for $240 since I was thinking of going mini ITX on my next platform upgrade. Which makes me laugh since now I have this ginormous Red Devil 6700 XT that barely fits into my full tower Phanteks Enthoo Pro haha.
Inflation has been very selective. CPU prices are not more expensive than pre-covid. Both AMD and Intel's offerings are cheaper now.
do you have numbers for this or are you just spitballing everything lately?the client business is now no longer profitable.
do you have numbers for this or are you just spitballing everything lately?
From the 2nd page summary:
Operating loss was $64 million, compared to operating income of $948 million, or 22% of revenue, a year ago. The loss was primarily due to the amortization of intangible assets associated with the Xilinx acquisition and increased R&D investments.
From the 2nd page summary:
Compared to last year they have more than doubled their OPEX, and the increased spending was far more influential than their ASP. Even with their original Zen 4 pricing the situation wouldn't be any better since it's the drop in volumes that hurts the most.
Do you actually believe that these grossly high view accounting data points tell you a company wide accurate account of true costs and spending in the different markets? Costs and revenue are creatively distributed to units so as to present the best picture to Wall St.Look at Page 11. I'm specifically talking about Client.
Slashing orders to a contract manufacturer is not trivial since fabless chip designers are obliged to procure a fixed number of wafers in certain quarters. Nevertheless, TSMC is reportedly willing to accept compensation (as it will hold wafers with chips from AMD, Intel, Nvidia, etc., before they are ready to buy them) and even renegotiate deals on long-term supply contracts (i.e., increase the number of wafers that a company is committed to buying in the future) in exchange. Such measures will not make TSMC's life any easier in Q4 2022 or Q2 2023, though.
I offered someone on Ebay 600 for a mined 3090 non TI. Got auto declined... Oh well.
People are still asking 450 for a DOA
That pretty much sums it up, which keeps me running my onboard UHD750 Intel processor video until further notice. It is adequate for my old games and more than adequate for daily use until the greedy get their fill. I can say this much for Intel, I get new video drivers about every month. They keep working on them.in my local ebay type site 3090s go for around $750-800 while new they are basically unavailable or cost same as a 4080 ($1500).
3080s (and R 6800s) go around $550-600 while they are basically unavailable new and the few sometimes in stock are at least $850 minium.
there was a short windows 6750s were cheap but I missed it. 450. now up to 550. if available.
Anyway I do not see a slow down at all but an artificial shortage. 4000 and 7000 series supposedly expensive due to previous series oversupply? But I can't find any previous series cards new and if only at inflated prices. Hence used market is expensive as well. And here I read cancelled orders?sell the 4070 TI for $499 and they will be able to sell every last one of them without cancelling any wafers. But I guess bean counters made the math and it's better paying a penalty and inflating prices by limiting supply and keep margins than go for a volume.
With intel at least it's understandable as their product is pretty much DOA. AMD? I also see a lack of stock especially of 6800 and up. make the 7900XT(X) much cheaper like 699 and 599 and again they could sell all the cards they make.
There is no real downturn yet. Just greed and margins. And not limited to gpus but also cars and other stuff. They are using inflation and downturn as an excuse. Just look at NVs margins. GPUs did not get that much more expensive and they can easily sell a 4070 TI for $499 and make profit. same for AMD.
Why do you need a 3090?That pretty much sums it up, which keeps me running my onboard UHD750 Intel processor video until further notice. It is adequate for my old games and more than adequate for daily use until the greedy get their fill. I can say this much for Intel, I get new video drivers about every month. They keep working on them.
Do you actually believe that these grossly high view accounting data points tell you a company wide accurate account of true costs and spending in the different markets?
I dont, I want one. I dont need a Lincoln either. If you are going to see a once in a lifetime GPU flood with cheap prices on a 3090, why settle for a 3050? But the flood never came.Why do you need a 3090?
I dont, I want one. I dont need a Lincoln either. If you are going to see a once in a lifetime GPU flood with cheap prices on a 3090, why settle for a 3050? But the flood never came.
It will come. I strongly believe that. Just one popular game with default high res textures is all it will take to drop the value of previous gen low VRAM cards. Then sellers will be begging to take their card and no one will want one, just like few people want a 1050/1650/1060 3GB. They are basically useless in modern games for the majority of gamers. AMD 6700 and above owners will be more immune to the price crash.Sadly the 2014 flood probably was once in a lifetime.