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maddie

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Not sure what that is, as I said games I play look fine at 1050P.
I certainly want to upgrade just not now. Feels like I’d be screwed regarding the card.
The game resolution pixels scale at integer ratios to the screen. A 1080p game pixel will do, for example, a 2x2 pixel block on a 4K screen. You can game at 1080p and use the full 4K resolution for everything else.

Of course, all this DLSS & FSR complicates it all.
 

SteveGrabowski

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The game resolution pixels scale at integer ratios to the screen. A 1080p game pixel will do, for example, a 2x2 pixel block on a 4K screen. You can game at 1080p and use the full 4K resolution for everything else.

Of course, all this DLSS & FSR complicates it all.

FSR makes it reasonable to buy a 4k monitor without a 4k gpu. I use FSR and RSR in basically every game I play since I run a 4k monitor but more like a 1440p gpu (6700 XT) and I'm pretty pleased with the results. 1440p FSR/RSR and 1800p FSR/RSR look really nice on the screen.
 
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The game resolution pixels scale at integer ratios to the screen. A 1080p game pixel will do, for example, a 2x2 pixel block on a 4K screen. You can game at 1080p and use the full 4K resolution for everything else.

Of course, all this DLSS & FSR complicates it all.
Sounds great it’s just what I mentioned earlier about getting on the video card treadmill. I get an over priced card to kind of play at a better resolution but not really play at a better resolution.
Good suggestion and I will consider this going forward.
 
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SMOGZINN

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FSR makes it reasonable to buy a 4k monitor without a 4k gpu. I use FSR and RSR in basically every game I play since I run a 4k monitor but more like a 1440p gpu (6700 XT) and I'm pretty pleased with the results. 1440p FSR/RSR and 1800p FSR/RSR look really nice on the screen.
That fits my situation really well. I really would like to upgrade to a 43' monitor. I have a price watch on the AORUS FV43U, and am really thinking about getting it if it goes down below $700. I spend a significant amount of my time working large spreadsheets, and it would be really nice to have that extra screen estate.
But, I know that my 1070ti is not able to do 4k at anything approaching reasonable. I don't think it can do DLSS or FSR either? But I'm not certain about what the requirements are for that. A quick google search should tell me ... So it looks like it is both card and game dependent, and according to AMD should work on a 1070ti. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
 

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How many bad ASROCK mobos have you encountered exactly?

I have an ASROCK mobo. A lot of other forum members too. Haven't heard anything too awful about them.
Most of the complaints come from poor power stages, cooling for them, and underperforming in benchmarks with high end CPUs from both companies. They have certainly had their fair share of hit or miss boards.

ASRock blacklisted Aussie Steve because he was so critical of them. Some of their super budget stuff has been literal hot garbage. I myself had a ASRock B660-HDV, and I was surprised Pikachu at Intel providing support for memory overclocking on a budget chipset. However, the 10100f I was running in it wouldn't even hit full boost clock with an overkill aftermarket cooler. Steve was merciless to that model in the review. I had a B450 Steel Legend for a short while I thought was fine, but it started having cold boot issues for the buyer, so I had to make that right = PITA.

OTOH, I have had solid ASRock boards. That X370 Fatal1ty I sold to you is a legend. Ran every iteration of Zen ever released except the 3D which I never bought, perfectly well. Still have a over decade old FM2 setup that runs fine when I pull it out to mess with it. Also had the B350 budget version of that Fatal1ty that was a champ too.

On their GPUs: Seems like they are hit or miss on build quality there as well. At least judging by user feedback and reviews I have seen. In the end, I think we can say that for every company though. Because for all the praise Asus gets, some of the worst mobos and build quality GPUs I have owned in recent years, have come from them. That said, I think the reason ASRock gets so much grief, is that sometimes even their premium boards are underspec'd.
 

Heartbreaker

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Most of the complaints come from poor power stages, cooling for them, and underperforming in benchmarks with high end CPUs from both companies. They have certainly had their fair share of hit or miss boards.

That. In the many MB comparos I have watched in the last couple of generations they are consistently the bottom of the barrel with regard to power stages/cooling.

Even on lower end CPUs where they can run at full clock speed, they run the hottest.

I'd rather have a MB that can easily power the CPU above the ones I'm going to buy, which generally bodes better for long term durability.

If they are similarly skimping on GPU power stages, I'd avoid their GPUs as well.
 
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NewEgg has AIB asrock for $800


Still too expensive IMO, should be $650.
I have to agree my extremely brief googling shows this is about 4 times the power of my 1660ti and four years newer.
Sorry for $800 I expect more.
Don’t take the above statement as me saying my 1660ti is better, it simply is a far superior value for normal gaming. Appears ray tracing and up scaling come with an enormous premium.
 

Ranulf

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My attitude on Asrock for 10+ years now has been $150+ boards are usually good and their cheap stuff was to be avoided. AsrockRack for their server line ain't too shabby either. I have an rx 570 gpu that has been fine for 4 years too.
 

mooncancook

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Finally caved and bought a 4070 Ti because of an Amex offer of 20% cash back, which brought the price down to $690 before tax. $800+ is too much, but under $700 is acceptable. Previously I was considering a 3080 but the price never made sense. Also considered the 6800XT before but couldn't find one that is around 12" in length. Glad I waited.
 

Thunder 57

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Finally caved and bought a 4070 Ti because of an Amex offer of 20% cash back, which brought the price down to $690 before tax. $800+ is too much, but under $700 is acceptable. Previously I was considering a 3080 but the price never made sense. Also considered the 6800XT before but couldn't find one that is around 12" in length. Glad I waited.

If it's not too late, you may want to to reconsider. The 7900XT is down about that price and comes with 20GB of RAM. It's also a bit faster if not using RT. Unless you really care about ray tracing I think you would be better off with the 7900XT, as it will likely be useful longer. Again, outside of RT. JMHO.
 
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mooncancook

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If it's not too late, you may want to to reconsider. The 7900XT is down about that price and comes with 20GB of RAM. It's also a bit faster if not using RT. Unless you really care about ray tracing I think you would be better off with the 7900XT, as it will likely be useful longer. Again, outside of RT. JMHO.
Unfortunately Dell doesn't sell AMD video cards. Their video card selection is extremely limited.
Edit: forgot to mention, the amex offer is for Dell only
 

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Unfortunately Dell doesn't sell AMD video cards. Their video card selection is extremely limited.
Edit: forgot to mention, the amex offer is for Dell only

Fake news!


😂

Yes, they seem to have things in and out of stock. I bought my VisionTek 5700xt from Dell, but via eBay back before things went sideways.

If nothing else, the 4070ti should hold its value better than people would expect and out of the box is a solid card. A 20% cash back opportunity is one to take seriously.

I miss my Costco Amex!
 

jpiniero

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AMD's got a new bundle... this time The Last Of Us Part 1. It also covers the entire lineup too, all the way to the 6400.

(The game as of yet does not have official system requirements though... despite being released at the end of the month)
 

Stuka87

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Are Asrock GPU's as bad as their MBs?

I have been running Asrock motherboards for ages (Intel and AMD), and I have never had a single issue. Now, I have not run one of their lower end boards, and perhaps those ones are not great going off the other comments here. But the higher end ones I have used work well. The VRMs have adequate cooling, BIOS updates have come when needed, including newer CPU support.

I have zero knowledge on their GPUs though. Though they would not be my first choice.
 
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mastertech01

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I have been running Asrock motherboards for ages (Intel and AMD), and I have never had a single issue. Now, I have not run one of their lower end boards, and perhaps those ones are not great going off the other comments here. But the higher end ones I have used work well. The VRMs have adequate cooling, BIOS updates have come when needed, including newer CPU support.

I have zero knowledge on their GPUs though. Though they would not be my first choice.
Maybe some people are more inclined to push less expensive boards to the max possible overclocks smoking them because they think they have less to lose or they expect $1500 performance from a $150 board.
 
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The thing that irks me is, aren't Nvidia and AMD supposed to certify these AIBs' graphics cards for reliability and a good enough cooling solution that prevents the fans from sounding like a scary loud jet engine? Even the XFX RX 580 I had wasn't as loud in normal use as the newer GPUs I have now (3090 and RX 6800).

What the heck went wrong with this industry? When did it become acceptable to sell super expensive noise pollution devices to consumers? Why should I as a GPU user have to mess with fan profiles or undervolting to experience a relatively quiet gaming experience?
 

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The thing that irks me is, aren't Nvidia and AMD supposed to certify these AIBs' graphics cards for reliability and a good enough cooling solution that prevents the fans from sounding like a scary loud jet engine? Even the XFX RX 580 I had wasn't as loud in normal use as the newer GPUs I have now (3090 and RX 6800).

What the heck went wrong with this industry? When did it become acceptable to sell super expensive noise pollution devices to consumers? Why should I as a GPU user have to mess with fan profiles or undervolting to experience a relatively quiet gaming experience?

Ha, because benchmarks!

Seriously though, cooling like 300W of power usage takes some air. It sucks and is a reason I run a 6800 and religiously use Radeon Chill. If I get to the point where I need the full card for ~100fps I guess I'll need a new card that I can run slowly (sanely)? lmao and smh.
 

mastertech01

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The thing that irks me is, aren't Nvidia and AMD supposed to certify these AIBs' graphics cards for reliability and a good enough cooling solution that prevents the fans from sounding like a scary loud jet engine? Even the XFX RX 580 I had wasn't as loud in normal use as the newer GPUs I have now (3090 and RX 6800).

What the heck went wrong with this industry? When did it become acceptable to sell super expensive noise pollution devices to consumers? Why should I as a GPU user have to mess with fan profiles or undervolting to experience a relatively quiet gaming experience?

You are probably too young to remember but back in the early 1970s US car manufacturers almost went bankrupt because people finally got sick and tired of getting poor quality automobiles for their hard earned money and the consumers started buying all Japanese imports and dumping their gas guzzling US made cars that were poorly manufactured. The US manufacturers were so used to the people taking what ever JUNK they were being offered with no attempt to compete with the high quality imports that got good fuel economy at a time when the nation was faced with a huge energy crisis.
It wasnt until US manufacturers suffered huge losses that they woke up and made a huge turn around but it took almost a decade to recover from their huge mistake and it took putting huge tariffs on imports to prevent a complete meltdown and millions of jobs lost.
IOW it becomes acceptable to pass off junk as long as people are STUPID enough to keep paying out the big bucks to let them get by with it.
 
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