There's new 6800's at $599. That's a pretty good deal. By the time you see N33 those will be long gone. Sure N33 is faster but you could take advantage of the time to mine when not gaming.
Plenty of shill bidding going on at Ebay to keep prices up. Then there are the people coming to forums like this to tell you Ethereum is on the rebound again and you better jump on those high prices before its too late. Its all a game.
Plenty of shill bidding going on at Ebay to keep prices up. Then there are the people coming to forums like this to tell you Ethereum is on the rebound again and you better jump on those high prices before its too late. Its all a game.
This is probably the most perfect response justifying the original post.There's new 6800's at $599. That's a pretty good deal. By the time you see N33 those will be long gone. Sure N33 is faster but you could take advantage of the time to mine when not gaming.
Exactly. They'll go up in value too, like housing prices. In 2050, such a card will be worth 1 million and you can retire by selling one.You guys been snapping up those cheap, 2 year old, end of cycle $800+ 12GB 3080's? Once they're gone, they are GONE boys. Don't be an idiot. You guys are smelling like stoopid right now unless you help Nvidia clear their mining stock, pronto.
This is probably the most perfect response justifying the original post.
This is probably the most perfect response justifying the original post.
Oh my, you think we're rational.While I haven't read all the replies on this thread (sure wish I had joined earlier for the fascinating chat you guys are having here), most here probably are well aware of and practice a lesson we learned during the onset of this hobby--never buy computer parts/hardware until such time where it becomes absolutely necessary.
So, IMHO, unless one is building a new rig now, there is absolutely zero reason to consider purchasing, and, even then, only in some very specific scenarios. For instance, unless there's compelling pricing, e.g., Amazon prime day's $217 on the 12600KF, let it go and wait for the new AM5 or Intel (forgot the name but it's some kind of new Lake?). Additionally, unless one sees some relatively good deals on DD5, e.g., 16GBs for under $100, again, just let it go. Finally, if one has an older GPU that can be swapped and run the system, just run with that until a few months from now when the new series cards from both Nvidia and AMD are introduced. Then, all things being equal, is when one should buy.
The wildcard is, of course, the crypto market. Absent of another meteoric rise, it'll be interesting to see the dynamic between those opting for used vs new cards, and how these GPU manufacturers will ultimately manage this secondary market. Predicting future events is obscenely difficult even during the best of times, but I'd wager a pretty penny that by year's end, we're going to see pricing, especially in the secondary market, fall by around 50% on the higher end cards, and maybe 20% - 30%, finally, on the 3060.
Intel (forgot the name but it's some kind of new Lake?).
Finally, if one has an older GPU that can be swapped and run the system, just run with that until a few months from now when the new series cards from both Nvidia and AMD are introduced. Then, all things being equal, is when one should buy.
The wildcard is, of course, the crypto market. [...] Predicting future events is obscenely difficult even during the best of times, but I'd wager a pretty penny that by year's end, we're going to see pricing, especially in the secondary market, fall by around 50% on the higher end cards, and maybe 20% - 30%, finally, on the 3060.
While I haven't read all the replies on this thread (sure wish I had joined earlier for the fascinating chat you guys are having here), most here probably are well aware of and practice a lesson we learned during the onset of this hobby--never buy computer parts/hardware until such time where it becomes absolutely necessary.
So, IMHO, unless one is building a new rig now, there is absolutely zero reason to consider purchasing, and, even then, only in some very specific scenarios. For instance, unless there's compelling pricing, e.g., Amazon prime day's $217 on the 12600KF, let it go and wait for the new AM5 or Intel (forgot the name but it's some kind of new Lake?). Additionally, unless one sees some relatively good deals on DD5, e.g., 16GBs for under $100, again, just let it go. Finally, if one has an older GPU that can be swapped and run the system, just run with that until a few months from now when the new series cards from both Nvidia and AMD are introduced. Then, all things being equal, is when one should buy.
The wildcard is, of course, the crypto market. Absent of another meteoric rise, it'll be interesting to see the dynamic between those opting for used vs new cards, and how these GPU manufacturers will ultimately manage this secondary market. Predicting future events is obscenely difficult even during the best of times, but I'd wager a pretty penny that by year's end, we're going to see pricing, especially in the secondary market, fall by around 50% on the higher end cards, and maybe 20% - 30%, finally, on the 3060.
If you wait for the "next, best" thing, you'll always be waitin and never upfrade. Even before the "NEW & IMPROVED" thing hits the market, they're already working on the next generation after that.
If you wait for the "next, best" thing, you'll always be waitin and never upfrade. Even before the "NEW & IMPROVED" thing hits the market, they're already working on the next generation after that.
Folks that bought a 1080TI right out the gate for $650 really got their money's worth. Someone who bought a 2080TI early on when everyone was betting that prices would tumble and $1000 is too expensive for a consumer card got their money's worth (unless they got space invadered, of course). Someone who picked up a $700 3080 at launch made out like a damn oil baron.
That's not what he's saying though.
Your tired old spiel is also just one side of the coin. Many people feel compelled to upgrade at high cost for relatively little gain because they want to have the latest thing.
Raptor lake (13th gen). It's just an optimization though, so I expect a relatively modest boost, with Intel adding a bunch of e-cores which matter little for gaming. Zen 4 should beat it for gaming because of the higher clock speeds and the smaller process.
Yes, I'm leaning towards this more and more. My 8th gen Core i5 is going to drive a new card reasonably well at the resolution and FPS I target, so no need to hurry.
The AM5 chipset is designed to be relatively cheap, so motherboard prices should come down before too long and DDR5-5600 will probably get quite a bit cheaper soon (especially with the surplus on better nodes.). So summer 2023 or a little later might be a great time to upgrade to AM5. Especially if demand continues to decline and companies become desperate for sales.
TBF the script has flipped a bit with mining and extreme supply scarcity on the scene.
Has there been any pricing released on AM5 boards yet? I'm expecting some kind of price increase if AMD runs PCIe 5.0 to all the lanes instead of just GPU. I'd like to see DDR5 drop closer to DDR4 prices (within 10-20%) as well.
I would not bet on that. With the research being done in renewable power it might soon be viable to have cheap clean energy, at least if you can afford the upfront cost.electricity isnt going to get any less expensive, I can assure you of that.
Do you know something that I don't or is this simply hope?I would not bet on that. With the research being done in renewable power it might soon be viable to have cheap clean energy, at least if you can afford the upfront cost.
The B650 motherboards will feature one small chip, rather than a cut down, large X chip. The X670 will have two of the same chips, daisy chained.
Also, PCIe 5.0 is only standard for the 1st M2 slot. Budget boards will have PCIe 4 graphics.
It points to relatively cheap boards being available.