Question are video card prices headed down yet?

[KompuKare]

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3060 12GB beating 3070 Ti with RTX and DLSS. 8GB cards are trash in the future proof category.

That's very interesting.
CB really don't do their reviews any justice by including so few GPUs in their reviews, because it would have been nice to have this confirmed in theirs too.

 

[moonbogg]

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3060 12GB beating 3070 Ti with RTX and DLSS. 8GB cards are trash in the future proof category.

This is why I was shocked to see people all excited when 3070Tis dropped down to $800. The card has 8GB of ram on it. That's decidedly 1080p territory moving forward. Anything with 8GB on it should be $300 and under, no exceptions.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I'm underbidding hard on anything that has less than 12gb of RAM at this point. 3070's are worth $300, 3080 10gb are $400 used, tops.

Trickle is slowly turning into a flood tho. Huge amount of NV cards are at far most reasonable prices than a month ago, and most with 2-3 bidders rather than the 20+.

I feel a tingling in my balls, guys. Tingling.

 

[psolord]

Yeah, I really want at least 12 GB in my next card.

True that.

I want at least 12gb for future proofing for my next card, but I will upgrade again in a couple years anyway.xD

 

[maddie]

I'm underbidding hard on anything that has less than 12gb of RAM at this point. 3070's are worth $300, 3080 10gb are $400 used, tops.

Trickle is slowly turning into a flood tho. Huge amount of NV cards are at far most reasonable prices than a month ago, and most with 2-3 bidders rather than the 20+.

I feel a tingling in my balls, guys. Tingling.

All I can say is hold off on pulling the trigger. I'm sure you don't want to fire off too early & miss the best deal.

 

[amenx]

Wow...

 

[jpiniero]

Wow...

Now that's a hot deal.

Edit: Meanwhile in nVidia land, GA104 and GA106 are still over their original MSRP. The one exception is that Best Buy might sell the FE at MSRP but I don't know if they require their scalper subscription still.

 

[DooKey]

Wow...

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Unless you absolutely need a card right now, I'd pass. The same money will buy you a much superior card in a few months.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Unless you absolutely need a card right now, I'd pass. The same money will buy you a much superior card in a few months.

My thoughts too, I didn’t want to thread crap.
However I need to disclose my general dislike of AMD cards.

 

[jpiniero]

Unless you absolutely need a card right now, I'd pass. The same money will buy you a much superior card in a few months.

I wouldn't count on that, unless you think the 4070 will be decently better.

 

[moonbogg]

Yeah a 4070 could be $700 for all we know with 10GB of ram and perform like a 3080.

 

[DooKey]

I wouldn't count on that, unless you think the 4070 will be decently better.

I think AMD and NV will have something better at that price point. This generation of GPU's isn't going to be a replay of the Turing release. We'll see multiple cards by AMD and NV that are better than their top card last generation.

 

[moonbogg]

I think AMD and NV will have something better at that price point. This generation of GPU's isn't going to be a replay of the Turing release. We'll see multiple cards by AMD and NV that are better than their top card last generation.

They will release the 3080 again for $700 with 10.1 GB of ram to claim progress.

 

[Hans Gruber]

This is the kind of stuff that ticks me off. $729 for a 3080 with 12GB of memory is not a deal.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-restarts-3080-12gb-production

The great 1080ti was $599 in August 2018. The 1080 was $550 during that same time.

The 3000 series cards are 2 years old already. I went back in time to see what the 10 series cards were going for in 2018 when things were more normal. This is also when the 20 series Nvidia cards were new to the market.

 

[jpiniero]

This is the kind of stuff that ticks me off. $729 for a 3080 with 12GB of memory is not a deal.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-restarts-3080-12gb-production

That is below MSRP. Which you can't say about GA104 or GA106.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Unless you absolutely need a card right now, I'd pass. The same money will buy you a much superior card in a few months.

Yeah, I was looking at ebay for used 6800 cards (I want to stay around 200W power consumption target), was hoping to find something around mid $400's range, but they're still going for absurd prices. With mining on the decline and new generation so close it just doesn't make sense to buy.

 

[Hans Gruber]

That is below MSRP. Which you can't say about GA104 or GA106.

Those are inflated MSRP's. The market is saturated and consumers have a sour taste because of the inflated pricing and the alleged inability of both AMD and Nvidia to curtail price gouging and scalping.

 

[maddie]

Those are inflated MSRP's. The market is saturated and consumers have a sour taste because of the inflated pricing and the alleged inability of both AMD and Nvidia to curtail price gouging and scalping.

MSRP is the new God, don't you know? Kneel and bow now.

 

[Ranulf]

That is below MSRP. Which you can't say about GA104 or GA106.

Sure, its also an indicator that maybe Nvidia put most of their production into the chips that would net them the most money and not so much into the chips that would sell the most to mid range and entry level gamers. Which means, MSRP was and still is inflated based on several factors.

 

[DrMrLordX]

MSRP is the new God, don't you know? Kneel and bow now.

It may not be God, but it is representative of what AMD and NV expect to be paid for their product. That's what they have to charge to get the margins their shareholders want while paying for advanced nodes and other rising costs.

 

[jpiniero]

Yeah, I was looking at ebay for used 6800 cards (I want to stay around 200W power consumption target), was hoping to find something around mid $400's range, but they're still going for absurd prices. With mining on the decline and new generation so close it just doesn't make sense to buy.

The 6800 in particular should be relatively rare because AMD shouldn't have needed to cut many that far in the first place.

 

[Hans Gruber]

The 6800 in particular should be relatively rare because AMD shouldn't have needed to cut many that far in the first place.

Back during the RDNA days. the RX5700 was as low as $292. The RX5700xt was $340. People can argue AMD didn't have any top of the line GPU's. You can still argue that point because Nvidia outperforms them at the top level GPU currently.

I will argue that both AMD and Nvidia colluded with a 3rd party known as cryptocurrency interests who encouraged both to restrict supply. AMD had a high level executive taking bets on the availability of AMD GPU's. Insisting that AMD would have no trouble being able to meet market demands for their GPU's.

Nvidia said supply of GPU's would be an issue. Problem is Nvidia had far more supply than AMD. It was AMD which said they would have no supply issues with regards to their entire line of GPU's.

Remember back in the early release of the 3000 series GPU's. They found a shipping container full of tens of thousands Nvidia GPU's that was lost in transit. It's funny how things get lost and found when something turns into a valuable asset. This discovery kind of backfired on Nvidia and the idea that they were not able to produce enough GPU's to meet demand. As long as we can all agree that scarcity is a manufactured process. In other words if supply is sufficient, you have to restrict supply to achieve scarcity. This leads to increased demand.

My point is that crypto ran it's course and like all things, it crashed and burned. Now both AMD and Nvidia are left with excessive supplies and TSMC would not let Nvidia out of their contract. Nvidia would lose a few billion or they would have to fulfill their silicon order of GPU's. Nvidia had Samsung making their silicon and memory modules. Then they hedged their bets with TSMC.

 

[igor_kavinski]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 GPUs to see even lower prices by the end of August - VideoCardz.com

Grand GPU firesale incoming?

 

[maddie]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 GPUs to see even lower prices by the end of August - VideoCardz.com

Grand GPU firesale incoming?

If belief in this spreads, sales will fall as buyers wait for lower prices in a self reinforcing, positive feedback loop. I suggest we do a couple more rounds.

 

[KompuKare]

If belief in this spreads, sales will fall as buyers wait for lower prices in a self reinforcing, positive feedback loop. I suggest we do a couple more rounds.

Off to the deals sites with ulterior motive I go!