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DAPUNISHER

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SteveGrabowski

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It almost made sense, when a brand-new 1660 Super was also $350, but you can get a 1660 ti for $229 @ Newegg right now. Why isn't the price of the 3050 following suite?

And what's with the GTX 1630? Those finally showed up too.

Can also get a 2060 for $238 at Amazon or newegg. Don't know why anyone would pick 3050 over a cheaper and 15% faster 2060 thats also new in box.
 

SteveGrabowski

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DLSS 2 is worth $121, apparently.

Don't laugh, for a little while I would have paid a $50 premium for DLSS 2.0. But now FSR 2.0 is so good I could care less about DLSS 2.0. And DLSS 3.0 is completely worthless to me since the artifacting is supposed to be pretty bad going from 30 to 60 fps, seems like these fake frames are supposed to be for going from 60 to 120 fps.
 
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DAPUNISHER

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Can also get a 2060 for $238 at Amazon or newegg. Don't know why anyone would pick 3050 over a cheaper and 15% faster 2060 thats also new in box.
I took a quick look and can see the reason we can't have nice things. The way AMD has mindshare in CPU sales now, Nvidia has even more in GPU sales. Only a couple of AMD cards in the top 20 on Newegg or Amazon U.S.

On Amazon, the Zotac 3050 for $300 is #5. SMDH. No way Nvidia is ever going to change tactics with suckers lining up to buy heavily overpriced cards. There is a 1050ti for $187 ranked higher than the RX6600, it hurts my brain.
 

sdifox

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Yea I'll try but it's not a huge priority right now. Need to buy an engagement ring soon which I don't want to have my credit line affected if I can't pay for it via ACH online and need to do financing with the jewelery site.

Probably a good idea to try and get one after I order the ring.
4090 would make a bling ring.
 

Aapje

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Interesting. One wonders if they're trying to get the miners to buy more.
A. It's pretty pointless now, as it was specific to Ethereum mining, so this only helps Ethereum Classic masochists eh miners
B. Is it a coincidence that they announced performance improvements with these drivers?
 
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Thunder 57

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I took a quick look and can see the reason we can't have nice things. The way AMD has mindshare in CPU sales now, Nvidia has even more in GPU sales. Only a couple of AMD cards in the top 20 on Newegg or Amazon U.S.

On Amazon, the Zotac 3050 for $300 is #5. SMDH. No way Nvidia is ever going to change tactics with suckers lining up to buy heavily overpriced cards. There is a 1050ti for $187 ranked higher than the RX6600, it hurts my brain.

The NVIDIA mindshare is insane. It is almost a cult like Apple. RDNA3 could come out and perform as well but priced maybe 20% less, and these people would wait for NVIDIA to lower prices and "thank" AMD for forcing NVIDIA to lower their prices.
 

Saylick

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The NVIDIA mindshare is insane. It is almost a cult like Apple. RDNA3 could come out and perform as well but priced maybe 20% less, and these people would wait for NVIDIA to lower prices and "thank" AMD for forcing NVIDIA to lower their prices.
This is just my guess, but as with any notable brand there's an aspect of social proof that comes with owning products from said brand. For the same reason why Apple iPhone users look down on people who have Android phones (e.g. blue vs green chat bubbles), there's probably something about owning an Nvidia GPU that makes people feel superior than those with an AMD GPU. This feeling is tied in with Nvidia always striving to have the performance crown, best software, and exclusive features.

"Nvidia makes the fastest graphics cards" or "All of the pro gamers and Twitch streamers use Nvidia graphics cards" ---> **consumer buys Nvidia graphics card** ---> "I am reassured that my graphics card purchase was sound because it is the best and mostly everyone I talk to agrees with this opinion"

Stepping outside of that feeling of reassurance is not pleasant because people will question your buying decision, they'll remind you of issues with AMD products that may or may not actually exist, etc.
 

Heartbreaker

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Interesting. One wonders if they're trying to get the miners to buy more.

They are getting rid of it because GPU mining is dead.

They were really only slowing the Ethereum Hash algorithm(you could mine other coins at full speed), because that was where most of GPU mining happened. Not much point blocking it now that Ethereum Ended GPU mining.
 

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This is just my guess, but as with any notable brand there's an aspect of social proof that comes with owning products from said brand. For the same reason why Apple iPhone users look down on people who have Android phones (e.g. blue vs green chat bubbles), there's probably something about owning an Nvidia GPU that makes people feel superior than those with an AMD GPU. This feeling is tied in with Nvidia always striving to have the performance crown, best software, and exclusive features.

Indeed. Your phone isn't just a "phone", it's a statement and fashion accessory. It seems the same is true of your GPU.

In short, the modern version of "keeping up with the Joneses..."

Not that I give a toss about that. Having ambitions tend to be a very expensive luxury.
 

mastertech01

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Scalper already hitting OKC on facebook marketplace. 4090FE only 3400.00 in case you missed it at Best Buy.
Ill pass.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Ok, picked up a 6800xt for $415 with free shipping, $450 all in. "Lightly used" the seller says.

Let's see if I have better luck this time.

I'll finally get my all AMD system if everything works out. But disappointed I won't get to experience DLSS and such, but I actually like AMD's control panel so much more than NV (esp overclocking options).

- Alright folks, the eagle has landed.

The 6800xt is an OEM Dell/Alienware pull. Its actually smaller in all dimensions from my old 980ti and is a true 2 slot card which comes as a bit of a surprise. Has a nice light up red "Radeon" logo on the side of the card which I can see through the tempered glass side of my case. Put it through a bunch of paces last night with 3DMark/Uniengine benchmarks and it appears to be stable as a rock and pulling down "stock" 6800XT scores which is a good sign. Temps are remarkably solid, capping out at 80c with stable clock and ram speeds after a 20 minute 3dmark stability test run which I didn't expect from an OEM cooler.

Now that I am less concerned about the actual stability of the system, I look forward to trying out some of the fun "new" card features like Freesync (which my monitor has supported for three years but my 980ti did not) and some of the upscaling stuff (ran the 3dMark XeSS test last night) and posting some of my real world feedback here after finally getting to experience the features for myself after hearing about them for so long.

Will worry about tweaking and ocing/undervolting etc at a later time. Look forward to actually trying out some of my more demanding games as well and seeing how they function.

Feels good man.

Of course I'll keep stress testing and looking for stability quirks for the duration of the return window. Any additional suggestions folks might have outside of 3dMark and Uniengine (that don't cost a ton of money) to test my system/GPU would be appreciated as well.

Thanks for coming on this PC building journey with me folks. I missed the 2xxx/5xxx generation thanks to prices/mining and then I had to wait till the ass end of the 3xxx/6xxx generation to pick up an upgrade and it feels damn good.
 

VirtualLarry

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The 6800xt is an OEM Dell/Alienware pull. Its actually smaller in all dimensions from my old 980ti and is a true 2 slot card which comes as a bit of a surprise. Has a nice light up red "Radeon" logo on the side of the card which I can see through the tempered glass side of my case. Put it through a bunch of paces last night with 3DMark/Uniengine benchmarks and it appears to be stable as a rock and pulling down "stock" 6800XT scores which is a good sign. Temps are remarkably solid, capping out at 80c with stable clock and ram speeds after a 20 minute 3dmark stability test run which I didn't expect from an OEM cooler.
I wonder if that's just the AMD reference-model card?
 

VirtualLarry

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Maybe it's a reference 6800, with the 6800XT BIOS flashed. ^_^

Or... maybe it's just an OEM card. The Red Radeon logo along the side made me think it might be a reference design.
 

sze5003

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4090 would make a bling ring.
Too bad she's not into computers like I am but she has no problems with me constantly buying tech stuff. I hear so many "hope my gf/wife won't kill me because I purchased "item-whatever".

Now that it's ordered if I can find a 4090 for myself will be cool but I'm not gonna sit around attempting to try for hours. I think I got burnt out last year doing that.
 
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DrMrLordX

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They are getting rid of it because GPU mining is dead.

They were really only slowing the Ethereum Hash algorithm(you could mine other coins at full speed), because that was where most of GPU mining happened. Not much point blocking it now that Ethereum Ended GPU mining.

I was thinking the same thing, but unless removing LHR from the drivers improves performance elsewhere (and maybe it does), there's no financial benefit to NV removing it now, assuming miners aren't gonna buy more cards. Not sure how many suckers are willing to keep buying cards now that ETH mining is dead and ETC + ETHW are categorically failing to take up the slack.
 
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