Are we all heavy footers now when it comes to driving?

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SphinxnihpS

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You mean the content that explicitly says they replaced smooth roads with higher speed limits with cobblestones to make people drive slower? Or where they explicitly point out that these are small towns (less than 15,000 people)? Or where they mention that this is only in very small sections of the roads (typically only a few hundred yards of central-town area)?

Your lack of substantive responses to my points is noted. We're done here.

ZV

You read a couple of paragraphs and missed the point completly, but being done with you is fine by me.
 

BurnItDwn

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My car doesn't have enough power so I floor it pretty much all the time until I get up to speed. I always maintain a decent following distance, and I try not to be a dick around merges, but, if there's an opportunity to drive with a little bit more enthusiasm, I will drive more enthusiastically.
 

Paul98

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You're really supposed to merge when the lane is ending, not before. People getting over early aren't doing anyone any favors, and just causing angst when someone zooms up the empty lane. If it's free flowing get over when there is an opening, but bumper to bumper...

The problem is when someone tries to merge in and there isn't room for them they end up slowing way down or even stopping and then merging. Then they end up slowing everyone behind them down, you get that happening a couple times and you have stopped traffic. Where it could have been avoided just by merging a little bit before you get to where the lane ends.
 

runzwithsizorz

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why didnt u let him pass you then drive behind him? you couldnt just stay in the right lane for few secs to let that guy go by you?
Reading comprehension fail! "doing 84 in a 70" / "heavy traffic" / "passing everyone in the right lanes" / "another 500 cars".
I take it you feel the whole world should just get out of your way, and let you do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it. Well guess what snookums, it doesn't work that way in real life. I'm sorry, but sometimes there's wall to wall, bumper to bumper traffic. Grow up, and deal with it.
 

Midwayman

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The problem is when someone tries to merge in and there isn't room for them they end up slowing way down or even stopping and then merging. Then they end up slowing everyone behind them down, you get that happening a couple times and you have stopped traffic. Where it could have been avoided just by merging a little bit before you get to where the lane ends.

There is just as much room. Its just some self-righteous jackhole tries to block them from a normal merge. If people actually cooperate, end of the lane is the right place to do it. Can't fix the jerks though.
 

Zenmervolt

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You read a couple of paragraphs and missed the point completly, but being done with you is fine by me.

I am unsurprised that this remains a non-substantive response.

None of the articles provide any justification for why what works in low-population, low-speed, low-traffic areas would work in high-traffic, high-population, high-speed areas. Neither have you.

What works in parking lots is not what works for 75-mph freeways.

ZV
 

Wyndru

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That works both ways. I can't tell you how many times I come up on someone with the cruise control on, move over to pass and suddenly I am no longer overtaking them. I speed up to pass, move back over and drop back to the speed I was originally traveling. Obviously I was going faster than them or I never would have come up on them in the first place.

Yeah, that's annoying too.
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Since this thread sorta turned into "What you hate that people do on the roads", I hate people who STOP at a freeway exit, especially when there isn't even a yield sign.
 

Dumac

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I don't floor it by any means, but I do accelerate quickly if I'm first in line at a light. I just find it fun, and sometimes it saves time. But mostly, fun.
 

exdeath

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There is just as much room. Its just some self-righteous jackhole tries to block them from a normal merge. If people actually cooperate, end of the lane is the right place to do it. Can't fix the jerks though.

The people in the correct lane in advance ARE cooperating. Its just the assholes that think they are special trying to zoom around and dart in front if everyone who don't. Fuck those people, not just on the road, but they tend to be selfish chest pounding bitches too full of themselves in other aspects of life as well.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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I really hate it when people don't use their turn signal and seemingly get peeved when you don't mind read what they are intending to do. I had this happen today on my drive home. Traffic seemed unusually backed up for that time of night, so once I could get into the long turn lane to get onto the road that I live on, I took it. I noticed the Escalade that was in front of me wasn't really moving that fast and had a huge gap in front of her (now I know why we had bad traffic...). My guess? She wants to get into the turn lane. I keep moving, and she merges in behind me. I get close to my apartment complex, and I put on my signal (at the proper time), merge into the turn lane as soon as I can (there really isn't much room because it's a shared turn lane), and all of a sudden, I hear this horn just start blaaaaazing! Now, when I hear a horn like that, I start getting a little worried that something bad is about to occur, but no... it was just the idiot driver in the Escalade most likely honking at me for no apparent reason.

I've been thinking about it for a long time, but I really much prefer the British term for a turn signal: indicator. It's the only rational explanation that I can figure for why people never use the turn signal... because the name confuses them! I am in the south after all. Now, if you called it the indicator, they would realize that it also indicates that they wish to switch lanes, and maybe they would not resort to mind reading.
 

ussfletcher

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Since this thread sorta turned into "What you hate that people do on the roads", I hate people who STOP at a freeway exit, especially when there isn't even a yield sign.
You aren't supposed to stop at yield signs either, if you don't have to.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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You know, some of us just really enjoy driving.

I mean DRIVING. Not cruising. Driving. Using all aspects of your vehicle, sometimes with reservation. Saving tires and brakes is great and all, but they ARE consumable items and will need to be replaced. Maybe a year or two earlier with harder driving.

You also pay more in gas, but I pay for entertainment and fulfilling experiences, why does that have to stop before I open the car door? I certainly enjoy paying for premium sound experiences in my vehicle.

Sometimes I can be a bit of an asshole on the road, but that's only when people don't cooperate and don't pay attention to their surroundings. I kick myself when I find myself doing the same thing as those who piss me off, though it's rare.
I don't care if one doesn't feel safe driving even at the speed limit, for instance. But get the hell out of the left lane. I've since grown comfortable with the idea of traveling in the left lane when nobody is around (if the left is in better condition, for example) - but yield the lane at the soonest possible time.
I HATE passing on the right - sometimes retards leave no choice, but seriously, it's a major hazard to do so. I squirm a bit whenever I see bikers who are forced to do so - so easy to get caught in blind spots.


Back on topic:
I'm frequently in a hurry, sure, but I'm just as often completely at peace and have no rush to get anything done. But I still have two goals in mind: 1) do what I have to do as efficiently as possible, so I can do more of what I want to do; 2) enjoy the drive on the way.

Sometimes cruising at ease on back country roads or when surrounded by absolutely nobody is relaxing - but to really enjoy a drive, I want to feel everything about the drive, get pressed into every corner of the seat back. So I'll speed off and I'll brake harder than other people, but it's a little something extra in life that just gives it that little extra kick.

Sometimes it's because I am absolutely in a hurry, retards have not paid attention and have slowed down my progress to work far more than I'd rather accept - so I have to make up every little second. Leave earlier, you say? Yeah, go to hell. I say that with all possible kindness I can muster. Yes, I should - but the better fix is for more people to actually pay attention to the details when 1) piloting a monstrous piece of machinery, and 2) interweaving their precious individual self with a large portion of society/local community. But the same ignorant and blind people on the road are probably just as ignorant and blind in the rest of the world, so the problem is larger than driving school.

I'll hold open doors for people, just as I'll cede the left lane on the highway and even DROP speed to merge over right if that actually gives the person behind me the opportunity to go faster than I am and be on their way. If I'm stuck behind a line of cars going slower than I want to, I probably won't, because neither of us accomplish anything except swapping back of the pack spots and we might have 10 slow cars ahead passing a mile or two worth of trucks (I've been there ) I rarely encounter anyone else who actually temporarily sacrifices forward progress/momentum just to be courteous to others. And I usually smile and nod at those who have done that for me.
I used to rarely get passed but I also got 3 tickets in a year and would really like to drop some points, so... yeah. Got pretty close to having a required court appearance, and that would have been 3 hours away from home.

It kind of sucks - when you really like to drive even only 9mph over (a fairly safe level of speeding when it comes to ticketing odds), you are likely to get far more pissed over the course of any drive, simply because you're likely to pass more people. If you go slower, you won't need to pass as often so you won't get pissed at others, but if you keep to your own little world and don't pay attention you'll probably piss off more people.

I've rambled on long enough, I reckon.
 

exdeath

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Jan 29, 2004
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Just now witnessed typical bullshit. Guy on the on ramp trying to merge, going the same speed as the people in the left lane. Gets over, again merging with plenty of space and going plenty fast, and the guy he gets over in front of gets all huffy puffy and floors it to speed up faster than he had been going the whole time, swerves into the lane next to him, gestures, swerves towards him like hes going to ram him, then floors it around him with his shitty Vatozone exhaust and automatic transmission in one gear too high making tons of noise but not really going anywhere.

Why?

The guy merging was in a beat up truck carrying stuff.

The guy being a bitch ... wait for it...

...was in a white Escalade with aftermarket dished out chrome spinning wheels with low profile tires, those gay ass clear chrome red circle Alteza lights that all the "minorities" seem to have on their trucks these days, and was driving with an angled posture with his head basically over the center console trying to act cool.

Swear to god if I was in the Cobra today I would have hunted his ass down and gave him hell until he was scared to go over 25. Little bitch.

Yeah... Guess what I'm driving Friday?

Nemo me impune lacessit.
 
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wirednuts

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Jan 26, 2007
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You know, some of us just really enjoy driving.

I mean DRIVING. Not cruising. Driving. Using all aspects of your vehicle, sometimes with reservation. Saving tires and brakes is great and all, but they ARE consumable items and will need to be replaced. Maybe a year or two earlier with harder driving.

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I've rambled on long enough, I reckon.

this is all of your post that i read. lookup the definition of concise
 

runzwithsizorz

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Jan 24, 2002
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There is just as much room. Its just some self-righteous jackhole tries to block them from a normal merge. If people actually cooperate, *end of the lane is the right place to do it.* Can't fix the jerks though.

Bullshit! there's a reason why there is nearly a 2 mile warning when a lane is going to end. We, the alert, conscientious, courteous drivers heeded the warnings, and in an orderly fashion merged over in such a manner as to not disrupt the flow of traffic as the engineers so designed. It's not that we purposely try and maneuver to block you, it's just that anytime you put a big sign on your car saying, I'm an asshole, nonconformist, trying to beat the system, and you will do my bidding, you should expect some people to push back a wee bit. I have to admit, I do get a little giddy when I see someone at a standstill, at the end of their lane, and their rope all because they tried to squeeze every last foot out of a lane they knew was about to end. Face it kiddo, out on the roadways of America, it can't always be just about YOU. And here's your sign;----
LEFT LANE ENDS IN 2 MILES, PLEASE MERGE RIGHT.
Oh, and have a nice day
 

exdeath

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Jan 29, 2004
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Bullshit! there's a reason why there is nearly a 2 mile warning when a lane is going to end. We, the alert, conscientious, courteous drivers heeded the warnings, and in an orderly fashion merged over in such a manner as to not disrupt the flow of traffic as the engineers so designed. It's not that we purposely try and maneuver to block you, it's just that anytime you put a big sign on your car saying, I'm an asshole, nonconformist, trying to beat the system, and you will do my bidding, you should expect some people to push back a wee bit. I have to admit, I do get a little giddy when I see someone at a standstill, at the end of their lane, and their rope all because they tried to squeeze every last foot out of a lane they knew was about to end. Face it kiddo, out on the roadways of America, it can't always be just about YOU. And here's your sign;----
LEFT LANE ENDS IN 2 MILES, PLEASE MERGE RIGHT.
Oh, and have a nice day

:thumbsup:

Sorry, driving a 5 year old used BMW or chromed out lifted truck with a shitty sounding exhaust doesn't make you better than everyone else or give you free reign to take cuts and shove everyone else aside when you feel like it. You will get behind me for being a douchebag and trying to cut through everyone who waited. And if you threaten me with your 4000 lbs deadly weapon when you don't get your way like a spoiled child, I will respond in self defense against a road raging aggressive maniac who won't be around to make up another side to the story.

This goes beyond driving.

I am so sick of people's aggressive pushy self centered alpha posturing chest beating attitudes in public in general. You can't go anywhere without everybody whipping their dick out at everybody else that walks or drives by. I have zero tolerance for it. It's like insignificant lizards doing push ups at each other, it's disgusting.
 
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destrekor

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I really hate it when people don't use their turn signal and seemingly get peeved when you don't mind read what they are intending to do. I had this happen today on my drive home. Traffic seemed unusually backed up for that time of night, so once I could get into the long turn lane to get onto the road that I live on, I took it. I noticed the Escalade that was in front of me wasn't really moving that fast and had a huge gap in front of her (now I know why we had bad traffic...). My guess? She wants to get into the turn lane. I keep moving, and she merges in behind me. I get close to my apartment complex, and I put on my signal (at the proper time), merge into the turn lane as soon as I can (there really isn't much room because it's a shared turn lane), and all of a sudden, I hear this horn just start blaaaaazing! Now, when I hear a horn like that, I start getting a little worried that something bad is about to occur, but no... it was just the idiot driver in the Escalade most likely honking at me for no apparent reason.

I've been thinking about it for a long time, but I really much prefer the British term for a turn signal: indicator. It's the only rational explanation that I can figure for why people never use the turn signal... because the name confuses them! I am in the south after all. Now, if you called it the indicator, they would realize that it also indicates that they wish to switch lanes, and maybe they would not resort to mind reading.

I hate that! I try to use my turn signal at every single moment one would think it is proper to use. And I always try and give at least 3 blinks (damn car doesn't do it automatically, 3 tends to be the common auto setting btw) before I actually begin moving into another lane. Or I try to do least 100ft before turning, unless it's faster than I give more... unless of course that means my turn signal is blinking before multiple driveways/roads/etc, then I turn them on at the earliest I think I can get away without confusing anyone.
 

destrekor

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this is all of your post that i read. lookup the definition of concise

con·cise
/kənˈsīs/
Adjective
Giving a lot of information clearly and in a few words; brief but comprehensive.
Synonyms
succinct - brief - terse - short - laconic - compendious


Yeah, what of it?

Have you NOT seen at least half of my other posts? I have far too many here. If I broke them up into concise posts, I'd probably have a record number of 'em.
 

exdeath

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Turn signals are pretty useless for the most part:

The person who should be using it would rather surprise you and lurch ahead of you suddenly and dart in front and TAKE it from you rather than ask, which is what signaling is. Signaling is like asking permission, and people are too self centered to ask rather than take by force. Taking by force without asking gives them an ego trip.

Or the other way around, if they do signal their intentions, another driver may react by closing the gap and not let them in so much of the time people HAVE to make surprise moves to be able to get where they need to be.

People are assholes to each other plain and simple.

If I see someone maintaining speed who hasn't been driving like a prick put on their signal and wait like a civilized person, I will bend heaven and hell to let them over.

Can't say I'd do the same for someone intentionally NOT signaling and I get the feeling they are about to try and "jump" me by surprise.

Bah stupid social behavior games.
 
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Spungo

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Turn signals are pretty useless for the most part:

The person who should be using it would rather surprise you and lurch ahead of you suddenly and dart in front and TAKE it from you rather than ask, which is what signaling is. Signaling is like asking permission, and people are too self centered to ask rather than take by force. Taking by force without asking gives them an ego trip.
Signal lights say: I'm not drunk or checking facebook, I'm intentionally drifting into your lane because I intend to drive in that lane. Keep doing what you were doing, don't honk at me, don't accelerate.

Or the other way around, if they do signal their intentions, another driver may react by closing the gap and not let them in so much of the time people HAVE to make surprise moves to be able to get where they need to be.
It seems to depend on traffic. If there's a gap, using your signal tells other people to close the gap, so it's best to start signaling as you are already changing lanes (see above: telling other drivers that you are not checking facebook, this move is intended). When traffic is really heavy, people will nicely let you in if you signal. It's weird but I guess it works.

I always let off the gas when someone signals. Lots of drivers are very passive and they won't go unless there's a football field of distance. Things seem to go a lot smoother if they get in front of me as fast as possible and stop screwing around.
 

destrekor

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:thumbsup:

Sorry, driving a 5 year old used BMW or chromed out lifted truck with a shitty sounding exhaust doesn't make you better than everyone else or give you free reign to take cuts and shove everyone else aside when you feel like it. You will get behind me for being a douchebag and trying to cut through everyone who waited. And if you threaten me with your 4000 lbs deadly weapon when you don't get your way like a spoiled child, I will respond in self defense against a road raging aggressive maniac who won't be around to make up another side to the story.

This goes beyond driving.

I am so sick of people's aggressive pushy self centered alpha posturing chest beating attitudes in public in general. You can't go anywhere without everybody whipping their dick out at everybody else that walks or drives by. I have zero tolerance for it. It's like insignificant lizards doing push ups at each other, it's disgusting.

Such is the primate way of life. It's rather ingrained in our species. We may have nice and fancy things and do ridiculously awesome stuff that other animals can't even begin to understand, but if you strip it all away, we're no different than the rest of the primate family with our pissing contests, tribe mentality, and desire to be the one at the top with the pregnant women in tow.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Such is the primate way of life. It's rather ingrained in our species. We may have nice and fancy things and do ridiculously awesome stuff that other animals can't even begin to understand, but if you strip it all away, we're no different than the rest of the primate family with our pissing contests, tribe mentality, and desire to be the one at the top with the pregnant women in tow.
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Give me a long stretch of highway, or a curvy mountain road all to myself, or out in the lead, and I indeed can turn into a beast, a primate, an animal. I also have the 45 years of experience driving both on, and off road to do so with confidence. Back in town, and in heavy traffic, I am merely a social insect willing to flash my lights, and allow you in to join the party. just behave yourself and we will all get, where we gotta get eventually. darting lane to lane, and pounding on the steering wheel ain't gonna help you one bit.
 
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