Are we all heavy footers now when it comes to driving?

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PsiStar

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I can't drive high HP cars (grossly modified WRX). I get tickets.

It is much less expensive for me to go out in the Miata or CT200H. I can perform them, and no one knows. :|
 

Paul98

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It seems like more and more that everyone seems to floor the car whenever the light turns green. What's the big rush? Are we in a hurry all the time? Maybe this is just a symptom and is a greater reflection on how we live our lives.

I can understand it during weekday mornings when you have to get to work but it happens all the time. Weekday or weekend.

Maybe since I don't drive with a heavy foot I notice it more.

Sometimes one wishes that he was in a more rural area with less traffic.

I'm letting off some steam. (I'm just as bad at times too when it comes to rushing so I'm not any better). I shouldn't be making this a big deal either. It is what it is.

What do you drive?
 

Paul98

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The freeways here are posted at 60 MPH max. (some areas are only 40)
If someone is in the right lane doing 50-55, I'll go into the left lane and pass them at 60...if you're going faster than that...you're just gonna have to cool your jets and wait until I'm done passing the slow pokes...and I don't care if there's a hundred of them...I ain't moving back over until I pass them all...

So you are an asshole and only care about yourself. Good to know, this is the kind of attitude that people should have there driving privileges taken away. Just wait till someone rear ends you or does that same thing to you driving much slower than you would like.
 
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SphinxnihpS

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You're kidding right? There's an intersection with an unprotected left turn near my house, and the amount of accidents there is staggering. There's got to be around 4 miner fender-benders there a week, and at least one near fatality a month.

Not kidding at all. I can see.

My contention is that the abundance of artificial traffic controls give people a false sense of security, but the fact of the matter is that a light, sign, line, or limit doesn't stop a moving hunk of metal. People get used to these "protections" and the result is attention-less driving.

Do you think YOU need a left turn arrow to tell YOU when it's safe to go? Do you think it's safe to go just because the arrow is green?

People are smarter than any light, but when they're complacent they're dumber than a bag of rocks.

http://www.tressugar.com/Removing-All-Traffic-Laws-Makes-Town-Safer-Make-Sense-1739759

http://www.spiegel.de/international...ties-do-away-with-traffic-signs-a-448747.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfpny1mifs4
 
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TallBill

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I drive like a grandpa. My biggest pet peeve is how close people follow each other on the road. Give some damn space.
 

Paul98

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I really would love to see most of these speed limits removed all together, along with many of the other useless stop signs and traffic signals. Make people think what they are doing, along with traffic signals to get traffic moving.
 

Zenmervolt

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Do you think YOU need a left turn arrow to tell YOU when it's safe to go? Do you think it's safe to go just because the arrow is green?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfpny1mifs4

Protected left turn arrows are NOT for telling people when it's safe to go.

They're for allowing left turns at all at intersections where there is consistently heavy traffic.

I drive through several intersections every day in my commute where a left turn would take 15-20 minutes or more without the protected arrow because there's just so much cross traffic that there would not otherwise be a break.

The links you show to "prove" that lacking signs is safer only show than when you re-pave the road with cobblestones that will rattle your fillings out if you go over 25 mph everyone drives so slowly that there are is little need for traffic signs because it's basically just a parking-lot. When you're dealing with a stretch of road that's basically deserted (as the video in your link shows the example roads to be) you don't need controls because there are plenty of gaps. Combine that with the cobblestones that will rattle your teeth out if you're moving at more than a crawl and it's easy to see why it seems to work in those very limited situations.

ZV
 

BoomerD

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So you are an asshole and only care about yourself. Good to know, this is the kind of attitude that people should have there driving privileges taken away. Just wait till someone rear ends you or does that same thing to you driving much slower than you would like.

So...you're saying that if I'm actively passing those in the slow lane...but you want by, I should inconvenience myself by getting in behind those slow drivers to let you pass? Who's being the selfish asshole now?
 

exdeath

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People floor it at lights for the same reason people spontaneously randomly whip out their iDevices and such in random public locations any time someone walks by. Its no coincidence that most of the vehicles you see doing this are probably new, shiny, sporty, big trucks, chromed out, etc Willing to bet you hardly see hoopties driving aggressive like they are better than everyone else.

Flooring it at lights they are either trying to beat the person next to them or watching their rear view seeing if the person can keep up with their shiny new super duper fast car! I know this to be fact because when someone "beats" them they stop doing it.

Anonymous groups of people of varying socioeconomic backgrounds gathering in one place is always a recipe for posturing and competition.

People are just animals.

Ill take off deliberately slow just to not be "that guy". My car is loud so its obvious when I'm on it or not. If I hear or see the person next to me going balls out, I know damn well what they are doing and they get the smack down and they usually stop and slow down after that. I've learned to tell the difference between people just driving fast and getting out of the way vs people deliberately being douchebags and posturing with their car. People who keep speeding up more and more hell bent on passing you when you are already going 20 over are out only to stick their nuts in your face and nothing more.

Normally Ill try to stay invisible and take actions that inconvenience the least number of other drivers but I will pounce all over douchebags who single themselves out by breaking from the group and feel they are above everyone else.
 
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Exterous

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Apparently the person behind us holds some magical power over us

Its not power if you chose to drive differently out of consideration.

So...you're saying that if I'm actively passing those in the slow lane...but you want by, I should inconvenience myself by getting in behind those slow drivers to let you pass? Who's being the selfish asshole now?

I would say its a matter of degrees. If you pass quickly and get over I have zero qualms. If you are going 64.01MPH to pass someone going 64MPH and there are multiple people lined up behind you but you continue to delay everyone using the excuse "But I'm passing the other car" then you are being the far bigger selfish asshole
 

BoomerD

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Its not power if you chose to drive differently out of consideration.



I would say its a matter of degrees. If you pass quickly and get over I have zero qualms. If you are going 64.01MPH to pass someone going 64MPH and there are multiple people lined up behind you but you continue to delay everyone using the excuse "But I'm passing the other car" then you are being the far bigger selfish asshole

BUT I'M PASSING THEM!!


 

Paul98

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So...you're saying that if I'm actively passing those in the slow lane...but you want by, I should inconvenience myself by getting in behind those slow drivers to let you pass? Who's being the selfish asshole now?

Yes, you should stop thinking only about yourself and think of ALL the people who want to pass you. If you are doing this you will be slowing down everyone behind you who want's to go faster. If you want to pass these slower people just speed up so you can pass quicker then move aside and drive at a speed you want to.
 

BoomerD

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Yes, you should stop thinking only about yourself and think of ALL the people who want to pass you. If you are doing this you will be slowing down everyone behind you who want's to go faster. If you want to pass these slower people just speed up so you can pass quicker then move aside and drive at a speed you want to.

Gawd-damned rude speed demons. Get behind me and wait your fucking turn!

I'll be past these slow-pokes in another 5 miles or so.:whiste:
 

Paul98

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Gawd-damned rude speed demons. Get behind me and wait your fucking turn!

I'll be past these slow-pokes in another 5 miles or so.:whiste:

And conformation, you are just an asshole who only thinks about himself. People would never act like this if they were in person...
 
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runzwithsizorz

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The freeways here are posted at 60 MPH max. (some areas are only 40)
If someone is in the right lane doing 50-55, I'll go into the left lane and pass them at 60...if you're going faster than that...you're just gonna have to cool your jets and wait until I'm done passing the slow pokes...and I don't care if there's a hundred of them...I ain't moving back over until I pass them all...
I was doing something similar recently down in Florida, passing everyone in the right lanes in pretty heavy traffic, in a fairly good amount of time. But it just wasn't good enough for this one person tailgating me, flashing their lights, and flipping me off through their sunroof. In a VERY dangerous move they managed to pass me on the right, and slip in front of me clearing my front bumper by only about 3 feet, while still holding up the finger. I said out loud, "well congratulations pal, only another 500 cars to go".
BTW, I was doing 84 in a 70, when this happened.
I also don't like being honked at for being 1 second late leaving the line when the light turns green. 4 + seconds sure, but 1 second?? srsly?? dude you got issues.
 
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bignateyk

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Green means go. If everybody lollygags around then I'm gonna have to sit through the light 5 times before I make it.
 

Wyndru

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A common thing I've noticed is something I call "the race horse syndrome".

It's when you have someone tailing you or on the side of you, then they pass you and slow down. This happens all of the time to me...someone is always in a hurry to get by me, then they slow down in front or on the side of me. Then I pass and they do it again.

It drives me nuts that people can't just maintain a certain speed, and feel like they always need to be in front of the person they have in their line of vision.
 

JackBurton

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Consideration should be among both parties. If one side, the car in the rear, wants to go faster, then it would be better if he went around rather than tailgating the car in the front. If it's a one lane road, then it is what it is.

If an older couple wants to go the speed limit and I'm in such a hurry, I will simply drive slower until I can pass them. Sometimes we don't get what we want.

No, consideration starts with the person in front since he is the one controlling the situation. If you are in a left turn lane and you are in front, the considerate thing to do is to pay attention and hit the gas when the light turns green or the intersection is clear. No one is asking you to slam on the gas like you are on a drag strip. Just pay attention and accelerate at a reasonable rate. And if you are behind someone, you should follow close behind the guy in front (not tailgate) so that as many people can clear the intersection within that light cycle. Again, fucking pay attention. That's more important than the acceleration rate.

As for driving on the highway, if you want to drive the speed limit, no problem. Just do it on ANY other lane than the passing lane.
 

Paul98

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A common thing I've noticed is something I call "the race horse syndrome".

It's when you have someone tailing you or on the side of you, then they pass you and slow down. This happens all of the time to me...someone is always in a hurry to get by me, then they slow down in front or on the side of me. Then I pass and they do it again.

It drives me nuts that people can't just maintain a certain speed, and feel like they always need to be in front of the person they have in their line of vision.

LOL I hate this also, what's the worst is on a one lane road with 2 lane passing zones every so often. You get people speeding way up in the passing lane, then slowing way down after it goes to one lane again. You end up with people passing someone who is going to want to drive faster than them once it drops back down to one lane.
 

PingSpike

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I drive like a grandpa. My biggest pet peeve is how close people follow each other on the road. Give some damn space.

I tried that at first. A bunch of assholes kept cutting in front of me forcing me to slam on my brakes.
 

Paul98

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No, consideration starts with the person in front since he is the one controlling the situation. If you are in a left turn lane and you are in front, the considerate thing to do is to pay attention and hit the gas when the light turns green or the intersection is clear. No one is asking you to slam on the gas like you are on a drag strip. Just pay attention and accelerate at a reasonable rate. And if you are behind someone, you should follow close behind the guy in front (not tailgate) so that as many people can clear the intersection within that light cycle. Again, fucking pay attention. That's more important than the acceleration rate.

As for driving on the highway, if you want to drive the speed limit, no problem. Just do it on ANY other lane than the passing lane.

Thank you this is some good advice here. One or a couple bad drivers cause chain reactions that cause everyone else to slow down and have problems.
 

Linflas

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Gawd-damned rude speed demons. Get behind me and wait your fucking turn!

I'll be past these slow-pokes in another 5 miles or so.:whiste:

I bet you're one of those guys that sees an open spot in the left lane approaching a red light and changes lanes from right to left and then when the light is green accelerates more slowly than the guy in the right you didn't want to be stuck behind. Almost as bad as asshole truck drivers that move left and pull up next to a truck in the right lane so they can have a snail race from the light.
 

PingSpike

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Regarding flooring it on green: Lights around here are usually ridiculous and poorly programmed. There's one set of lights that was using the old daylight savings time change time for about 5 years so there was a month or so span where it caused massive traffic jams for no reason until the internal clock caught up. I feel its your duty as the guy on deck to be ready and get things moving. The left turn lights are always really bad. You can't turn (legally) when its red even if there is an opening, but the light only switching once every 10 years...and for some reason it only stays green for 0.5 seconds because how many cars could have possibly piled up during the 10 year interval right? So that guy playing angry birds on his phone is seriously fucking you.

Regarding some one faster than you behind you: I was up in Maine a few years back and when we came up on a car that was going slower than us...he pulled over and let us go by! I've never heard of such a thing, it blew my my mind. And then it happened again and again on the same trip. Here in Vermont the driver would have occasionally swerved into the oncoming lane while constantly varying speed from slow to super slow to assure me he was an excellent driver. Then when I went to pass him he would immediately floor it in an effort to kill me and any unlucky oncoming driver because being passed is emasculating, 20 under the speed limit is good enough for him, should be good enough for everyone else and he's judge jury and executioner when it comes to this matter.
 

Spungo

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Go ahead and use your power. Just don't get tense when the person in front of you is not using theirs.
400HP Cadillac driven by 80 year old man. Merges going half the speed limit. Does that count as attempted suicide or are they just being jerks?
 
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