Are Women Objects?

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Raj
Grew up believing NO. Women are not objects. more and more and more I am finding women objectifying themselves. Throwing themselves around like meat. Its almost as if they want to wear that label. Don't know what to think anymore. It almost seems like I am unlearning everything i learned growing up.

Social norms. Are women objects to men, and we put up this elaborate fassad for political correctness to continue this deluded sense of equality?

Is it today's media that has maybe not spawned but propogated, perpetuated and increasingly made acceptable the objectification of women?

Thoughts guys? and girls?

Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: hjo3
Unfortunately, it seems that for a lot of women of a certain age, feminism means acting dumb and slutty but retaining the power to be justifiably offended when someone calls them on it.

sounds about right

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: her209
She ain't getting her grubby hands on mah money.

Throw some coins at her and watch it jiggle.

I was thinking more along the lines of women who treat their men like a damn ATM machine. And the worst part is that they buy the most useless sh!t. Who the fvck needs 200+ pairs of shoes, clothes that you wear once, a crap p.o.s. furniture that you don't even use, etc.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
Damn right they're objects... the best invention ever created... a combination washer/cooker/cleaner. *ducks*

:laugh:
You'll need a flamesuit in a while, get ready

 

[meltdown75]

well... it happens on both ends. i think it takes two - one willing to objectify themselves and one willing to see them as such. if someone is going to put themselves out there like a peice of meat though, and basically act like one (ie. porn stars) - it's not too much of a stretch for someone to treat them that way. so... i think more and more these days the choice is in the hands of the person, as opposed to being objectified by society.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Raj
Grew up believing NO. Women are not objects. more and more and more I am finding women objectifying themselves. Throwing themselves around like meat. Its almost as if they want to wear that label. Don't know what to think anymore. It almost seems like I am unlearning everything i learned growing up.

Social norms. Are women objects to men, and we put up this elaborate fassad for political correctness to continue this deluded sense of equality?

Is it today's media that has maybe not spawned but propogated, perpetuated and increasingly made acceptable the objectification of women?

Thoughts guys? and girls?

Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

Agreed.

/thread

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: hjo3
Unfortunately, it seems that for a lot of women of a certain age, feminism means acting dumb and slutty but retaining the power to be justifiably offended when someone calls them on it.

QFT

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Raj
Grew up believing NO. Women are not objects. more and more and more I am finding women objectifying themselves. Throwing themselves around like meat. Its almost as if they want to wear that label. Don't know what to think anymore. It almost seems like I am unlearning everything i learned growing up.

Social norms. Are women objects to men, and we put up this elaborate fassad for political correctness to continue this deluded sense of equality?

Is it today's media that has maybe not spawned but propogated, perpetuated and increasingly made acceptable the objectification of women?

Thoughts guys? and girls?

Men are slowly coming out of the woman trance. It's been going on since the beginning of time, but I think it's reached it's pinacle.

keep telling yourself that.

Personally, I'm under a trance cast by Mosh. I'm her puppet.

lie Pinocchio, lie!

 

[Ricochet]

Some are. They believe it empowers them. They believe they are exploiting men's weakness.

You already know what drives this: American Pop Culture. Just look at those who set the standards: Pam Anderson, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and etc. Let's not forget the most popular music genre, rap. The image that is being emblazoned onto young men is that the ideal goal are the fancy cars, slutty women, and bling. It doesn't cater to the educational elite, it caters to the lowest common demoninator.

Women loves attention. Some are willing to do whatever it takes to obtain it. For them beauty = power. When I'm taking about beauty I'm talking only about physical beauty. The message being conveyed heavily nowadays is that if you have it, flaunt it. For those that do I have absolutely no problem objectifying them as sex objects. Sorry, screw this feminist BS. I objectify women as sex objects. Is it all women? Absolutely not. Only those who flaunt it and want to be sex objects.

My friend (who lives in Vegas) and I had a long phone discussion about this before. He went to a porn convention not too long ago and could not believe how many beautiful young women there are. Gone are his notion about pornstars being predominately silicon enhanced bimbos with heavy makeup. It's not uncommon to see 18 y/o who look like minors. This day and age of the internet amateur porn made a big presence. Anybody with a camera and a hot body can make porn. My friend and I both agreed that the porn industry is going to get saturated (if not already) because more and more women are finding it acceptable and profitable to go into porn. This is correlated to the attitude of young women nowadays who grew up to a sex induced culture. The starlets of the past have it so good when the public weren't so open to pornography. Oh, the irony.

 

[JDrake]

I think its funny that they get offended at certain things, but bring those things and stereotypes on themselves

 

[Molondo]

The thing is, men will never be considered "sluts" if they sleep to much around, but not vice verca with women. Some girls i met in high school just have no intrest beyond make-up and boys. Same thing can be said about guys, No intrest beyond cars and women. Its the point of view you are looking at things from.

 

[Sphexi]

It depends on what programming language you're using.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

Hell, yeah!

Sluts sleeps with everybody.
B!tches are sluts who won't sleep with you.


Edit: Pardon my French. I don't typically talk like that.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

Hell, yeah!

Sluts sleeps with everybody.
B!tches are sluts who won't sleep with you.

so in other words... we can't win.

 

[Ricochet]

Mosh, I don't agree by those statements. It's just something I heard on Tom Leykis. But I did find it rather amusing.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Raj
Grew up believing NO. Women are not objects. more and more and more I am finding women objectifying themselves. Throwing themselves around like meat. Its almost as if they want to wear that label. Don't know what to think anymore. It almost seems like I am unlearning everything i learned growing up.

Social norms. Are women objects to men, and we put up this elaborate fassad for political correctness to continue this deluded sense of equality?

Is it today's media that has maybe not spawned but propogated, perpetuated and increasingly made acceptable the objectification of women?

Thoughts guys? and girls?

Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

Hahahahaha! Truer words were never spoken!

 

[Raj]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Raj
Grew up believing NO. Women are not objects. more and more and more I am finding women objectifying themselves. Throwing themselves around like meat. Its almost as if they want to wear that label. Don't know what to think anymore. It almost seems like I am unlearning everything i learned growing up.

Social norms. Are women objects to men, and we put up this elaborate fassad for political correctness to continue this deluded sense of equality?

Is it today's media that has maybe not spawned but propogated, perpetuated and increasingly made acceptable the objectification of women?

Thoughts guys? and girls?

Hmmmm... so another gal laid the "yes I do but not with you" brush off line on you eh ?

In my experience, the only time men lament the sluttiness of women it's usually because said slut will sleep with everybody but the complainer

How typical, any time a guy asks a question such as this, it must be because he's been the victim of constant rejection. Thank you, you're just confirming my beliefs even further.

In fact the reason for me asking this question is the exact opposite. Over the years I am finding that women are becoming easier. That is not to say that I am a smooth talker or a playboy of sort. I am just wondering what the reason is for the the gradual rise in promiscuity.