Ah yes. Locking people up has always been a good and proven way of combating homelessness and drug addiction! Why has no one ever tried this before?!Enforcing laws doesn't seem all that far fetched to me.
Because "don't bring your truck into town and block up the roads" is easier to enforce and easier to comply with than "don't be homeless and don't be an addict".They sure did it for the convoy! Brought in RCMP on horses and everything. Do the same against the people that are ACTUALLY harming others. Use the emergency act, this is a Canada wide issue. It might actually be ruled constitutional by the supreme court this time!
So how long are you going to lock them up for? How are you going to pay for rehab? What's going to happen to them after? Are you going to send them off to be homeless and in the same environment and expect them to stay straight?Locking them up keeps them out of public. Public now feels safe. Mission accomplished.
Offer them rehab, if they refuse, lock em up. Get clean or GTFO.
Laws should not just be enforced based on how easy it is, but on how much better it makes society. Imagine if we all did only the work that's easy at our jobs and ignored the rest.
His provincial net tax burden is -19. As in the public pays him 19 dollar a year in the form of social services just so he can live in Timmins. He bitches about taxes.So how long are you going to lock them up for? How are you going to pay for rehab? What's going to happen to them after? Are you going to send them off to be homeless and in the same environment and expect them to stay straight?
So how long are you going to lock them up for? How are you going to pay for rehab? What's going to happen to them after? Are you going to send them off to be homeless and in the same environment and expect them to stay straight?
It's a constant refrain from the populist right "FIX THIS THING!!!" "How?" "DONT OPPRESS ME BY ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT MY OPINIONS!"His provincial next tax burden is -19. As in the public pays him 19 dollar a year in the form of social services just so he can live in Timmins. He bitches about taxes.
Dude doesn't even know what a used syringe looks like, you expect him to have any sort of coherent answer?
Dude doesn't even know what a used syringe looks like, you expect him to have any sort of coherent answer?
I mean this is your solution to the problem. Maybe you need to think out the details a bit more?Same thing that happens to any other person in jail. What happens to them when they get out? (I'm honestly not sure, are they on their own or what?)
So you're happy to pay significantly more taxes for healthcare and housing for the homeless and/or addicted?Ideally there needs to be housing and rehab programs, the issue is most of these people refuse both. If they refuse, well back to jail. Perhaps asylums might be better than jail. It doesn't need to be the old school places where people get abused, just a place where they can live under supervision and get basic life necessities, while being kept away from the public. Some people are sadly just hopeless. They don't want to better themselves. We shouldn't be victims of that.
So your solution is? Make needles illegal? You see why I'm having trouble with your "solutions" to problems here?Obviously all needles start off as being unused and that's how they get handed out. But they get used and that's plastic pollution going into the environment, not to mention the toxic chemicals and biohazard that comes with it. And kids getting injured by them too.
They banned straws then they go and give this crap out to end up as litter everywhere. Liberal logic.
Make people put a 1 dollar coin lock on the trollies and I guarantee that some homeless guy will start collecting the trollies up and returning them to the huts!I must remind you that these people don't return their carts. We need to stay on topic here.
So what happens to those people in Timmins? Do you stick them in the mine as human toxic gas detectors?I must remind you that these people don't return their carts. We need to stay on topic here.
So you're happy to pay significantly more taxes for healthcare and housing for the homeless and/or addicted?
I mean I'm not against that general principle (probably not your pre Victorian version of it) but you don't seem to be the sort to want that sort of tax burden.
I'm pretty much sure that you aren't paying taxes for that.We're already paying taxes for that. So put that to use.
So you think that a safe injection site costs a similar amount to a secure rehab facility that people are confined to?Right now lot of our taxes are going towards enabling the drug users instead. Everything related to it should be shut down. Apparently the safe injection site alone is costing us 100's of thousands per month to run, which is completely insane. Shut that shit down. Put that money towards a rehab centre. Also a lot of this riff raff is not even from here, so buy em bus tickets, send them back where they came from. Send em to thetrainbus station. 1 way ticket.
I'm pretty much sure that you aren't paying taxes for that.
So you think that a safe injection site costs a similar amount to a secure rehab facility that people are confined to?
If not how much do you think locking someone up for a year costs? Now add healthcare and rehab to that.
You're against the free movement of people now? You think people should get a permit to travel from the government or something?
The point is that you are advocating for paying more taxes when you are complaining about the ones you already do pay!We pay a lot of taxes, most of it gets wasted on stupid crap. They can budget it if they want, they just don't want to.
Being homeless doesn't make you a criminal. Neither does being an addict for that matter.And yes I do want to restrict the movement of criminals and people who are making law abiding citizens feel unsafe.
They don't.Why should they have more rights than the rest of us?
Think about what you are arguing for. Homeless, go to jail. Addict, go to jail. Does that go to jail if an addict thing cover alcoholics? People hooked on legitimate prescription drugs? People who started on legitimate prescription drugs?Lock em up. People get locked up all the time and are hardly even a threat to society. How about we free those people and lock up the real criminals. GIve them a choice, get clean or get locked up. If they choose to get clean, once they're clean, then they should get a job like rest of us. We shouldn't need to spend much money on that.
I take responsibility for this off topic train crash!I'm sorry gang, I didn't mean to kick this off by observing that your town seems dull as shit to me if waiting for the VCR to auto-rewind seems like a novel and fun idea. Maybe they didn't already have auto-reverse cassette decks, IDK.
Squirrel hasn't had a moment of actual self-awareness or shown any interest in not being anything but ignorant in years. He is a lost cause. A waste of oxygen and resources. His rural lifestyle is literally subsidized by tax dollars, and he should just go start taking down trees and build his totally off the grid paradise so society can be rid of him as much as possible. But he will never do it.I take responsibility for this off topic train crash!
But sometimes it's interesting to see if people can actually recognise what they are!