170, not 1.And who is that? BTW...if you say Krugman, you're brain dead.
Bill passed some bad legislation, and pushed the country, particularly the dem, further right. The economic boom was due to the internet.
That's not a compelling argument for Hillary, either way.
I don't have the bad habit of being too nice. I only respect logical arguments, which you seme to be lacking.
I see its like the economy just pooped out at the end of George W's Presidency and he had little to do with it, stuff just happens by chance. There is always bad legislation passed at some point we live in a complicated world. Bill has said he regrets parts of NAFTA and loosening bank regulation.
Yes Clinton was in office at a good time however I don't agree that past performance isn't a good indicator of future performance.
Hillary clinton is the epitome of everything wrong with American politics. Lying, untrustworthy, deceitful, tells people what they want to hear while robbing them blind, it disgusts me thats shes even being consdered for president.
There's no logic in an honest Democrat tearing down either candidate. Doing so suggests a lack of sincerity. Spreading FUD about either candidate serves only the Repub cause.
I see its like the economy just pooped out at the end of George W's Presidency and he had little to do with it, stuff just happens by chance. There is always bad legislation passed at some point we live in a complicated world. Bill has said he regrets parts of NAFTA and loosening bank regulation.
Yes Clinton was in office at a good time however I don't agree that past performance isn't a good indicator of future performance.
He is probably under the misconception that it's better for Hillary to win than say Cruz, but it's not. It amounts to the same thing.
Because Bernie is a naive optimist, which is why he is so trustworthy.Bernie has in fact said Hillary would be better than any one of the R clowns. If you trust Bernie so much why can't you trust his (very correct) assessment about that?
Bernie has in fact said Hillary would be better than any one of the R clowns. If you trust Bernie so much why can't you trust his (very correct) assessment about that?
Because he's just trolling Hillary, not really supporting Bernie at all. There's a lot of that going around.
Again, you make a post completely lacking an argument. Your ad hominem isn't even accurate. You should probably check out the US oligarchy thread.
Hating Shillary, and supporting Bernie are not mutually exclusive.
Again, you make a post completely lacking an argument. Your ad hominem isn't even accurate. You should probably check out the US oligarchy thread.
Hating Shillary, and supporting Bernie are not mutually exclusive.
I am not a partisan twat. I would absolutely consider voting for a REAL conservative.
If for instance, I got to pick between real conservative, running Republican, and Clinton, I would vote for the conservative ALL day!
This whole lesser of two evils line of thinking is why we are in the such deep shit now! Everyone is voting against someone, and it has completely corrupted our politics.
Amazing lack of self awareness in that, given that you're just voting *against* Hillary.
Polls are far better than your gut feeling. Hillary also carries a lot of baggage into the general, which will give someone like Trump an endless amount of mudd ball ammo to sling.
Furthermore, the base doesn't even like her. She is as establishment as establishment gets, and people aren't going to flock to.support that. Heck, I have seen tons of Bernie supporters say they either won't vote, vote Stein, or even vote Trump if Bernie loses the nomination.
Is that the only reason you support Hillary?
I think you might be drastically overestimating how 'progressive' Hillary is. She would likely be further right than Obama is right now, and he is republican lite at best.
Because while I have some strong views on classical liberalism, I'm neither right nor left. And in particular, I dislike populism, right or left. And then there's the shortage of sane candidates and well, f'it..
And I think that latter direction is moving the country to its own destruction. A Soviet leader once said in a public statement "We will bury you." This was interpreted by alarmists as a military threat. In fact, what he meant, if you want to understand their own basic dogma of that era, was that we'd destroy ourselves, and they'd have to get the shovels and the undertaker.
Because Bernie is a naive optimist, which is why he is so trustworthy.
Shillary Clinton isn't about to tip over her cash cow! She might not pick as corrupt members, but she won't pick justices that will overturn legal bribery.
Oh good, that's just what we need, a naive president. You're still an idiot.
P.S. I posted more anti-AMD stuff in the CPU forum, did you read it?
It is sad that people actually think like this. US is screwed.hillary supporter cause GOP are literally extremists. if they had their way, there woudlbe no planned parenthood, no science in school, no evolution, no big bang theory. seriously, the kind of shit most of the republicans support will put the country to stone age if allowed to have their way.
hillary, because i atleast know what her skeletons are and - and in todays world, everyone who is anyone famous enough to be a senator or a politician has skeletons in the closet. if obama had GOP support for universal medical welfare, this country would have established a milestone, except they tried to shut all his efforts down and literally impeach him every other month and tried to stop everything he did because that would have meant a democratic victory. screw GOP, they will get whats coming to them sooner or later
I would not trust any polls this far out, especially ones where Bernie hadn't been sieged by the right wing hate machine.
Look what they did to Kerry, Obama, Gore and both Clintons.
Really it's all the GOP is good at. They have no idea how to run a good govt, but they are masterful in slandering and destroying the other guy. Bernie is such a ripe target for ridicule that that alone should send giant red flags.
I would add also that we don't really know who the real Hillary is. She has been a primary target of the GOP hate machine for so long that is really hard to differentiate between the cartoon monster they've created and the real person.
Close to where I am at. Generally with the dems on most issues as the right has gone so far off into the woods, but I'm not with the dem base on a number of economic issues.
A big worry of mine is that the left will overplay is hand, go too far left and lose so much that has been hard fought for under Obama. The dems are dangerously close to being completely out of power, but they are acting like Bernie can take them on some leftist revolution.
Tell me, how does that kool-aide taste?She's been slimed more or less continuously since 1992 & she's still standing. She's uniquely qualified, having served as First Lady, Senator & SoS. If anybody knows how to get things done in Washington, it's her.
That's what we want, isn't it? A working government? Progress towards making it work better in changing times? Better lives for all of us & our descendants?
Fools seem to lose track of that thru this "Trust" bullshit. It doesn't change their minds- it changes their attitudes. Repubs current attack is based on the notion that they've spread so much bullshit that some of it must not be bullshit because there couldn't be that much bullshit.
Well said. The Obama Admin reversed the trajectory of the worst economic crisis since 1929. They've done a lot of good things & preserved even more in the face of pure spite from Repubs. Hillary won't be giving away any of it.
This ignores that GOP controlled congress just increased NASA funding...