Are you a homophile or homophobe?

FelixDeCat

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People love throwing around the term "homophobe" as if it had some sort of negative connotation, yet you dont hear the term "homophile" in every day conversation. It, like everything else, is a choice.

I think I would fall into the 'other' category as I dont have strong feelings either way. But then some would argue there is no middle ground.

I disagree.

What is your choice?


Sorry folks, I quickly locked this after seeing reported posts, but since my class was just about to begin, didn't have time to read through all the responses. Though I consider the OP to make this a troll thread, the replies are generally a pretty good discussion - as a result, I'm reopening the thread.. -Admin DrPizza
 
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shortylickens

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Unconcerned.
Seriously, the only thing that bugs me more than automatic gay-loving or gay-hating is the notions that I automatically have to love or hate gays.
 

Number1

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People love throwing around the term "homophobe" as if it had some sort of negative connotation, yet you dont hear the term "homophile" in every day conversation. It, like everything else, is a choice.

I think I would fall into the 'other' category as I dont have strong feelings either way. But then some would argue there is no middle ground.

I disagree.

What is your choice?

Please explain what possible positive connotation "homophobe" could have.
 

shortylickens

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Please explain what possible positive connotation "homophobe" could have.

Thinking for yourself and not giving in to overly-PC bullshit.

Kind of like when you disagree on some libtard issue and someone brands you a racist, cuz they cant think of anything else.

These days angry liberal insults just make me feel better about myself. Its not a good intimidation tactic for them anymore.
 

Craig234

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Tolerant.

Based on your comments in the other thread though you're homophobic and a bigot.

Based on his comments in THIS thread he sounds like one.

'As if' homophobe has a negative connotation? It does, for good reason.

Then he implies homosexuality (or heterosexuality for that matter) are 'just a choice'.

Wrong, and the views of the ignorant who resent equality for homosexuals.

The tone reminds me of the civil rights era when people had 'nothing against blacks who know their place'.
 

randomrogue

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Thinking for yourself and not giving in to overly-PC bullshit.

Kind of like when you disagree on some libtard issue and someone brands you a racist, cuz they cant think of anything else.

These days angry liberal insults just make me feel better about myself. Its not a good intimidation tactic for them anymore.

What the fuck are you rambling on about?!
 

randomrogue

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Here's a reality check. If you have a problem with homosexuality then you're a bigot. It's not a mental illness. Discriminating against people because of their sexuality makes you a bad person.
 

lxskllr

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What the fuck are you rambling on about?!

He's talking about nonsense words crafted to imply a slur, but when analyzed have no substance. It's also the discussion stopping "hot words" that don't apply to the situation. "Racist" is used in the same manner as "serial killer", but since it's intangible, it's hard to defend against, so free speech gets stifled out of fear of being branded a racist(serial killer)
 

Scotteq

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Neither - the sexual preferences and activity of individuals with whom I don't have a personal/intimate relationship are none of my business...



So long as they don't do it in the streets and scare the horses...
 

randomrogue

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I don't get it. A serial killer is very simply someone who kills more than 3 people. You don't get branded a serial killer. You either are one or you aren't. There's no such thing as a slur where you go around calling people serial killers and discriminate against them.

Racist can be used incorrectly. Not wanting to date Asians or Black people is not racist for example.

Homophobia has multiple meanings beyond the semantic meaning of it. It has to do with negativity towards homosexuals and can be hostile. It's an irrational hate and prejudice towards people with a sexuality different than your own.
 

lxskllr

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I don't get it. A serial killer is very simply someone who kills more than 3 people. You don't get branded a serial killer. You either are one or you aren't. There's no such thing as a slur where you go around calling people serial killers and discriminate against them.

Racist can be used incorrectly. Not wanting to date Asians or Black people is not racist for example.

Homophobia has multiple meanings beyond the semantic meaning of it. It has to do with negativity towards homosexuals and can be hostile. It's an irrational hate and prejudice towards people with a sexuality different than your own.

You didn't get it. My whole point is words like homophobe(not even a real word) and racist get overused and abused because they can't be defined. They carry the same weight as serial killer, but are built of nothing but fluff.
 

corwin

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Homophobia has multiple meanings beyond the semantic meaning of it. It has to do with negativity towards homosexuals and can be hostile. It's an irrational hate and prejudice towards people with a sexuality different than your own.
Close...it's an irrational FEAR of homosexuals that can lead to hostility and discrimination. They're just scared is all, they need to learn how to give up that fear and live in peace and harmony()
 

Number1

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Thinking for yourself and not giving in to overly-PC bullshit.

Kind of like when you disagree on some libtard issue and someone brands you a racist, cuz they cant think of anything else.

These days angry liberal insults just make me feel better about myself. Its not a good intimidation tactic for them anymore.


You should judge a man by his deeds, not by some preconceived idea rooted in bigotry, fear and tradition.

You did not answer the question, what can possibly be positive in :

homophobe:
1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.

What does that have to do with liberalism?

You feel intimidated because you can't openly display?:

1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.


That's a good thing in my world. We should hunt down people like you, shame them into oblivion.
 

Number1

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You didn't get it. My whole point is words like homophobe(not even a real word) and racist get overused and abused because they can't be defined. They carry the same weight as serial killer, but are built of nothing but fluff.

I looked up homophobe, it turned out to be a real word, with a definition.
 

lxskllr

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I looked up homophobe, it turned out to be a real word, with a definition.

Homo - derived from Greek meaning same

-Phobe/phobos - derived from Greek meaning fear

Lets put them together now. Same fear, or fear of the same.

What does that mean again?
 
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They don't use homophile because well that's redundant when talking about homosexuals. Supporting gay rights is not the same as being into being gay. There are a few straight people that could possibly qualify as homophiles, but most just are supporting equal rights for all people.

Homophobia perfectly applies to a lot of people.

What the fuck are you rambling on about?!

Shorty has become a full on conservative caricature or something. Seriously like all his posts now are just full of what you expect from people like Glenn Beck and Limbaugh.

You didn't get it. My whole point is words like homophobe(not even a real word) and racist get overused and abused because they can't be defined. They carry the same weight as serial killer, but are built of nothing but fluff.

Your whole point is bullshit. Can't be defined? You've got to be kidding. Yeah they're overused and often jumped to by idiots that can't make rational arguments and so use extremist language, but acting like they're meaningless or that they don't apply at all is just absurd.
 

shortylickens

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You should judge a man by his deeds, not by some preconceived idea rooted in bigotry, fear and tradition.

You did not answer the question, what can possibly be positive in :

homophobe:
1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.

What does that have to do with liberalism?

You feel intimidated because you can't openly display?:

1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.


That's a good thing in my world. We should hunt down people like you, shame them into oblivion.

Very nice, how you quietly committed multiple logical fallacies and looked good doing it. You are quite smooth sir.
 
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