Are you a homophile or homophobe?

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lxskllr

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You're being dense. Homophobia comes from Homosexual. Same sex. Fear of same sex.

No it doesn't. That's what people say, but it doesn't make it right. I can say red is blue, but it doesn't make it true, and it doesn't get truer as more people say it.

Mushy thinking is another problem this country has. How can people defend freedom when they don't even know what words mean when they're used against them?
 
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No it doesn't. That's what people say, but it doesn't make it right. I can say red is blue, but it doesn't make it true, and it doesn't get truer as more people say it.

Mushy thinking is another problem this country has. How can people defend freedom when they don't even know what words mean when they're used against them?

The problem is that while many English words are based on other origins, that doesn't mean that that always works when talking about English words and phrases.

But by all means let's discuss all the stupidity involved in the English language since apparently that's the bigger issue here.
 

actuarial

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Homo - derived from Greek meaning same

-Phobe/phobos - derived from Greek meaning fear

Lets put them together now. Same fear, or fear of the same.

What does that mean again?

It's an accepted word in the English language. Not all words are constructed to their literal meaning.

I have to think you know this though.
 

randomrogue

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The stupidity in this post is astounding :^D

You're surely committing some kind of fallacy. I'm too lazy to look it up. You're attacking the semantics of the word to try to sidetrack the actual argument.

My girlfriend is foreign so English is a 2nd language to her. She comes up with lots of words in our language that translate odd. That's just the nature of it. Her latest observation: Self Conscious. Think about that word for a moment. It's kind of silly when you break it down.

Either way get off the literal translation horse since it's a poor place to argue from.
 

lxskllr

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It's an accepted word in the English language. Not all words are constructed to their literal meaning.

I have to think you know this though.

Aside from not working literally, it doesn't even work figuratively. How many people are truly afraid of homosexuals? What percentage of people dive for cover when queen walks by? I'm sure there's someone out there that does, but it's hardly worth a widely used word.
 

actuarial

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The stupidity in this post is astounding :^D

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedo-
pedo- , esp ( US ) paed- , esp ( US ) pedo- or esp ( US ) ped-
— combining form
[from Greek pais, paid- child]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/meter?s=t
-meter
a combining form meaning “measure,” used in the names of instruments measuring quantity, extent, degree, etc.: altimeter; barometer.
Compare -metry.
Origin:
< Neo-Latin -metrum < Greek métron measure
 

Craig234

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I used to have the same hangup about the word homophobia; I'm over it.

It's come to be the word that means 'bigoted against gays'.

If people want a better word, get it in use.

Racism is one clean word for race bigotry - usually against brown skin.

Sexism is already taken - bitory about gender, usually against women.

Sexualorientationism is not a clean word.
 

randomrogue

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Aside from not working literally, it doesn't even work figuratively. How many people are truly afraid of homosexuals? What percentage of people dive for cover when queen walks by? I'm sure there's someone out there that does, but it's hardly worth a widely used word.

You're reaching for new levels of stupid.

People with Arachnophobia don't jump for cover and people with Achuluophobia don't stay up all night with the light on. People didn't run away screaming from black people before the civil rights movement either.

Many people fear homosexuals. If they didn't we wouldn't be having this discussion and they would have equal rights.
 

Craig234

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Aside from not working literally, it doesn't even work figuratively. How many people are truly afraid of homosexuals? What percentage of people dive for cover when queen walks by? I'm sure there's someone out there that does, but it's hardly worth a widely used word.

That is literally. By the way, the fear is less of homosexuals, than of being thought you are homosexual, because of the stigma. Kind of a vicious circle.
 

actuarial

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Aside from not working literally, it doesn't even work figuratively. How many people are truly afraid of homosexuals? What percentage of people dive for cover when queen walks by? I'm sure there's someone out there that does, but it's hardly worth a widely used word.

The only expression of fear is to dive for cover when someone walks by?

Do you not consider the slipperly slope arguments made against homosexuals an expression of fear?
 

Fritzo

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The way I look at everything: If you're not hurting or causing inconvenience to me or others in any way, I don't care what you do or who you do it with.
 

Craig234

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The only expression of fear is to dive for cover when someone walks by?

Do you not consider the slipperly slope arguments made against homosexuals an expression of fear?

People have a point it's not the most accurate word literally. Who cares?

Words get abused and new meanings all the time.

Ever notice how many people claim it's 'patriotic' only to support an unnecessary war costing us billions, our moral standing, and killing thousands of our people?
 

Craig234

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The way I look at everything: If you're not hurting or causing inconvenience to me or others in any way, I don't care what you do or who you do it with.

That's simplistic, though. It doesn't answer much about good policy.

For example, how would you set various brackets' tax rates following that?
 

SlitheryDee

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That's simplistic, though. It doesn't answer much about good policy.

For example, how would you set various brackets' tax rates following that?

Why would that interfere with tax brackets? The policy would read "You will be taxed according to your income, and you are hereby ordered not to give a fuck about shit other people do that doesn't harm you or others".
 

disappoint

Lifer
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I'm an audiophilophobe. I'm scared of people running around with enough brain damage to pay exorbitant prices for a power cord. Who knows what other insanity they are capable of?
 
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