Are You A Werewolf - Forum Game 9: THE VILLAGE WINS

[JujuFish]

Yep, PF will go down tomorrow if Chiro proves to be the witness.

 

[Charmonium]

Yep, PF will go down tomorrow if Chiro proves to be the witness.

But that's another night that wolves get to make a kill unless they're very unlucky. That will mean 6 people down and not one wolf dead.

Possessed Freak

 

[Bubbleawsome]

And if chiro is a wolf we know charmonium defended him.

 

[Charmonium]

And if chiro is a wolf we know charmonium defended him.

Hey, wait one minute here. I had voted for El Fenix initially but no one agreed with me so I now have to choose between Chiro and Possessed. Personally I think Chiro has the more believable story but PF did come out first accusing Chiro. That would be a perfect move for a wolf to make if he knew he'd been observed which in this case was in fact what happened.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Pish, my voting history is clear. I voted for the cultist, chiro abstained. I voted for Chiro, chiro voted for the villager. But keep thinking chiro is the trustworthy one.

 

[Charmonium]

Pish, my voting history is clear. I voted for the cultist, chiro abstained. I voted for Chiro, chiro voted for the villager. But keep thinking chiro is the trustworthy one.

Voting for the cultist was just an accident. No one, even the wolves, know who that is. Same thing with the vote for CTbaars. Even the masons wouldn't know he was an ordinary villager. You just lucked out.

edit: But if you're a wolf, then you would have known Chiro saw you and you would have all of your furry friends vote for him. The only reason you might be more believable is because you announced first, but that would have been the only smart thing to do. So you may be a smart wolf, but you're still a wolf.

 

[Chiropteran]

Here's my plan; kill Ctbaars today, Chiropteran tomorrow, if he isn't a wolf we kill Possessed Freak the next day.

In retrospect, this is a very wolf-like statement.

Think about it for a moment, with the assumption that I am indeed the witness. When I witnessed PF kill Xed, he witnessed me back, and told his wolf buddies about his plan. The wolves also would know ctbaars is a villager and not one of their own, so happy to lynch him- unfortunately his stories were confusing and he sounded like a liar, which caused some innocent villagers to also vote for his lynch- but that certainly wouldn't dissuade a wolf from going for an easy lynch kill.

And then of course killing me next, with the caveat of killing PF if I am indeed the witness- well of course he says that, he has to, he would truly reveal his wolvishness if he hinted that he would let PF live even after lynching me.

And then there is this:

Sorry :$

The problem is, he can't be a wolf. The wolves would have no reason to protect him since they didn't know who he was. As far as I know no one knows who the cultist is (unless he shared his role) Also, there would be no benefit to calling him a mason, it just makes you a target once he is killed.

Ctbaars still gets my vote for now though.

He admits he knows ctbaars isn't a wolf, but insists on lynching him anyway... hmm that is very strange thing to do, isn't it? I think bubbleawesome has revealed a bit too much, I'm about 95% sure he is a lycanthrope.

Keird could probably be one of the others, glenn1 also sounds like a wolf following the alpha (as he insists on following bubbleawesome's plan), although it's clear some are simply confused villagers who are voting to lynch me because they don't recognize the wolf in front of them.

Just throwing all my thoughts out on the table so they can be considered after the truth is revealed, and you can 100% confirm that possessed freak is a wolf.

 

[JujuFish]

Bubble also made it clear he thought Ctbaars was cursed, and Penguin figured he was a doppelganger. There are non-wolf roles that are dangerous to the town. Seems like you're twisting words. Very wolf-like. Very wolf-like indeed.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Could someone tally the votes? Chiro and Possessed are the two I'll give my vote to, and chiro was blamed first.

 

[Charmonium]

Could someone tally the votes? Chiro and Possessed are the two I'll give my vote to, and chiro was blamed first.

I think it's 4 or 5 for Chiro and only 2 for PF, but that's just a running tally I've been keeping so I could be off.

 

[Chiropteran]

Bubble also made it clear he thought Ctbaars was cursed, and Penguin figured he was a doppelganger. There are non-wolf roles that are dangerous to the town. Seems like you're twisting words. Very wolf-like. Very wolf-like indeed.

See here is the thing: you will have 100% confirmation that I am not a wolf after you lynch me, so you don't need to question whether my words are wolf-like or not. The truth will be exposed for all. The fact that this will occur and you still think I would lie is silly, even though I may be lynched I am still on the town team and want them to win, so I wouldn't be posting bad info.

 

[Charmonium]

It really comes down to who you believe. Because PF accused Chiro first, most people will figure that Chiro must be the wolf. But just think about it for a moment. You're a wolf. You've just lunched someone. Come to find out that someone saw you and you saw them.

If you're the wolf, you know that you're toast unless you get out in front of any possible accusations, which is exactly what PF did. It was a smart move but if anything it proves that he's the wolf.

Chiro, being the seer, wasn't going to be in any hurry to out himself as seer since that would probably make him a target for the evening carnage. So his first impulse would be to proceed more cautiously and see if he could find a way to implicate PF w/o giving himself away and making himself a target.

So if we imagine that PF is the wolf and Chiro the seer, then clearly each acted in precisely the way we would expect them to.

 

[Chiropteran]

I am the witness, not the seer. TBH there was no reason for me to hold back the info, because once one wolf knows he can share it with all. I just happened to be busy that evening and didn't get a chance to post until after PF's post.

In the end, it'll be fine, because you will soon know he is the wolf with certainty.

 

[Charmonium]

ok. Sorry. Get those confused. I'm rooting for you Chiro.

 

[JujuFish]

The problem, Char, is that you can literally say the same thing in the other direction. If PF is really the witness, then all Chiro can do is claim he's the witness and hope to survive one extra night.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Ugh at this point it's just a 50/50 chance.

 

[Chiropteran]

The problem, Char, is that you can literally say the same thing in the other direction. If PF is really the witness, then all Chiro can do is claim he's the witness and hope to survive one extra night.

The votes are stacked against me. I'm not posting to change people's votes, I am posting so that after I am dead my information can help the town win.

 

[Charmonium]

The problem, Char, is that you can literally say the same thing in the other direction. If PF is really the witness, then all Chiro can do is claim he's the witness and hope to survive one extra night.

IDK. I don't think the Witness would believe that a wolf would be that bold. The only chance a wolf has to survive in a situation like that is to accuse the witness. But the Witness wouldn't expect to be accused since he knows who he really is.

Those of you voting for Chiro are putting too much weight on the fact that PF accused him first. I hope I'm wrong but Chiro's posts seem much more convincing than the 2 or 3 line posts we've gotten from PF.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Possessed Freak

 

[Possessed Freak]

I could wax poetic all I want, but the logic is there even if posted by my rival. Why regurgitate it, when it was promoted as such already?

Chiro is right again, after the voting is done tonight, the town *will* know if they made the right decision or not. One has to wonder why the seer did not confirm one of our stories, the logical decision was to look at one of us and then announce... I guess there may not be a seer in the group?

 

[ALIVE]

ALIVE

i will be in for the next game guys

and as always
vote ALIVE

 

[Chiropteran]

One has to wonder why the seer did not confirm one of our stories, the logical decision was to look at one of us and then announce... I guess there may not be a seer in the group?

A werewolf would just love for the seer to come forward, so that he can eat him tonight after the lynching...

Unless the seer & bodyguard were both recruited by masons, it's extremely risky for the seer to come forward at this point.

 

[Chiropteran]

ALIVE

i will be in for the next game guys

and as always
vote ALIVE

It's a Christmas miracle!

 

[Charmonium]

ALIVE

i will be in for the next game guys

and as always
vote ALIVE

Welcome back

 

[Possessed Freak]

A werewolf would just love for the seer to come forward, so that he can eat him tonight after the lynching...

Unless the seer & bodyguard were both recruited by masons, it's extremely risky for the seer to come forward at this point.

If the seer maintains silence, he does not help his team out early and lynch a wolf, especially with the cultist (assuming one cultist) dead. The cultist could spoil this by doubling down on the pitting of the witness/wolf by presenting information as seer/cultist.

The wolves would have a seer as a target, but again, if the seer remains silent and only votes with some information he is no better than a slightly more helpful villager with hunches. Perhaps the seer is hoping on waiting until endgame to help his team more, but risks a lynch/midnight feeding every day.

But, I guess, the question must become does it matter losing a villager 50% of the time now (now that the witness role is done, that is all there is left) to get a 100% wolf by the next day and save the seer for later, or save the villagers another life for a 100% now. Tactical versus strategic I guess.