We should leave HardcoreRobot out of the lynchings, his though process turned out to be wrong, but I thought it sounded fine at the time. I'm going to read back through some of the previous posts and see if someone sticks out.
my logic was sound, just not right due to bad assumptions. lynching me will be a true mistake, whereas lynching the bodyguard was inevitable. shes either the true bodyguard, or a wolf faking it, either way she dies.
lets say we didnt lynch, and the wolves didn't kill her that night, what would you advise the town to do the next day? let her stay living?I disagree, politely
If psy was a wolf, would killing her gain us anything? Not really. Knowing she is a wolf is key, killing her only helps if it's the last wolf, as we still lose 1 villager every night with 1 2 or 3 wolves alive.
So letting her live a night, or two nights, or even 5 nights wouldn't hurt us, the value is in determining if she is a wolf or not, not in actually killing her.
Now, it could be that you just don't see the same logic as me, but I kinda think you saw my point earlier and just chose to ignore it because as a wolf you knew psy was innocent and wanted to make sure she got lynched. My vote remains.
still no answer to this question. you have to understand this to understand why it doesnt matter that we lynched her.lets say we didnt lynch, and the wolves didn't kill her that night, what would you advise the town to do the next day? let her stay living?
still no answer to this question. you have to understand this to understand why it doesnt matter that we lynched her.
if there had been any chance of net negative effect to townies, i would not have suggested or endorsed it. fact is town was in a lose lose situation and we did what we had to do to confirm it wasnt a plot.
i still dont understand how lynching a dead man to confirm they werent part of a conspiracy is such a bfd. though i suspect its mostly the product of short sighted townies, not fully understanding how the psyjsay situation was guaranteed to play out combined with wolves taking advantage of the townies taking out one of their own.
by your own admission, the final result is the town kills the bodyguard. i just helped us save 3 days of debate. i dont blame people for being suspicious of me, the way everything has played out all my assumptions have just been wrong. it looks as if the truth will be revealedIf psyjsay had lived for more than 3 nights, I would have advocated her lynching. (I say 3, because the wolves might have let 1 go to toy around with us, and the second night she could have guarded herself, so the third night would have been most telling). Or, if there were only one wolf left, I would have advocated the lynching. There was no immediate benefit to taking her out, since wolves would have killed at night anyway. There was a steep downside. We wasted a kill on a good guy, which is both bad in and of itself, but it prevented the wolves from doing the job themselves. Killing psyjsay right away only helps the wolves, hence my vote for you.
You think the wolves wouldn't take care of the second most important villager role after it's been confirmed, for three nights in a row? Really? You think the wolves would just let the bodyguard going around trying to save villagers in the meantime, just to try to pull the wool over our eyes? I don't buy it.by your own admission, the final result is the town kills the bodyguard. i just helped us save 3 days of debate. i dont blame people for being suspicious of me, the way everything has played out all my assumptions have just been wrong. it looks as if the truth will be revealed
soon enough gl townies you will need it!
There is literally zero immediate benefit to killing the alleged bodyguard right away for the villagers. She'd have gone down after a few turns, either by the wolves because she's really a bodyguard, or by the townies who come to a greater certainty she's a wolf.why would they when you just confirmed the same thing everyone else would think? they leave the so called bodyguard alone, the town gets paranoid and lynches, saving the wolves the trouble.
the only thing wolves risk in that scenario is the BG saving the person they try to kill night 2 which is like 10% chance.
you are not acknowledging the fact that there was a significant chance the wolfs planted a fake bodyguard. in my mind, that was more likely than a hung wolf jury or them happening to get the 1/12 pick of trying to kill the bodyguard.There is literally zero immediate benefit to killing the alleged bodyguard right away for the villagers. She'd have gone down after a few turns, either by the wolves because she's really a bodyguard, or by the townies who come to a greater certainty she's a wolf.
On the other hand, there is absolutely a benefit to leaving the alleged werewolf alive, because if she turns out to be the real bodyguard that's two nights where she could have saved someone, not counting saving herself in night two.
Cliff notes:
Leaving a wolf alive a few turns changes nothing fundamentally about the game. Villager dies every night. Leaving a bodyguard alive a few turns is three more turns of bodyguarding, a valuable role.
The fact that you keep arguing that what you did was correct, despite the fact that there was no benefit to it and a clear downside further cements my belief you're a wolf.
I really don't know who or what to believe at this point.
Yeah, because it already said I'm the town whore in the first post. Since you defended Hardcorerobot, and also suggested to lynch our other good town folk, and you rarely post, you are it buddy. Enjoy your lynch, effowe!At this point I'm thinking SSSnail and lightrider44 are looking like good lynching suspects. I am going to vote to lynch SSSnail since he seems a little too sure about who he thinks the wolves are.
At this point I'm thinking SSSnail and lightrider44 are looking like good lynching suspects. I am going to vote to lynch SSSnail since he seems a little too sure about who he thinks the wolves are.