Are you anti or pro marijuana?

jobberd

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Please specify (medicinal, recreational, legalization, etc) and give reasons for your opinions
 
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I will never do it in my lifetime. I will not allow it in my house. I will not accept it's use by my children until they are adults, and even then I will not accept it around me, nor agree with it's use, nor show any respect to anyone truly addicted and not just a sparse recreational user. This is not just for marijuana, but for all drugs including tobacco products. However, it's a personal choice.

If you choose to use it, or anything else, it should be your right...the government should never have any involvement in personal choice.

With that being said, I think any crime ever committed while under the influence of any substance should IMMEDIATELY carry a maximum sentance and immediately remove your right to ever do any drug ever again, on pain of death. Period. If you can't control yourself and endanger another living thing because of it then you have no right to live on this planet.

Other than that stipulation, knock yourself out. Just don't complain if others make fun of you for your choices.
 

Zim Hosein

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jobberd, not that I use it, but I'm pro marijuana
 

amnesiac

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I'm pro-MJ for many reasons, part of which is that the government could save so much money and use it for other things than to hunt down pot distributors. There are much worse threats to this country's liberty than marijuana.

Yes, I have smoked and no, I don't think it's worth $50 / eighth. I still deem it a lesser evil than cigarettes.
 

killface

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<< Please specify (medicinal, recreational, legalization, etc) and give reasons for your opinions >>


You can't really be anti-inanimate objects because they DO exist and you really can't change that
I mean, you can't be anti-caffeine-free diet pepsi or anti-staplers
However, you CAN be anti-marijuana use or something.

By the way, I am against anti-pot legislation. It's just flat out ridiculous. I rarely smoke, but even so I cannot express my frustration with these laws sufficiently without typing my ass off for the next 20 minutes.
 

royaldank

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Pro marijuana here. In whatever case you want to use. People like drugs. We have been refining drugs for centuries because humans need mind altering substances. Just like alcohol and cigarrettes, marijuana should be legal. Just about every study the government has commissioned since WWII shows that marijuana is not harmful other than mess up your lungs a bit. No short term memory loss (except while high sometimes) and no long term memory effects. The government has spent millions, maybe billions, trying to figure out a reason they banned marijuana and still haven't found a logical reason.

Now, speaking of tax revenue and lost money on importanting and exporting...that is a whole other reason it should be legal.

Until people quit electing conservative anti-drug politicians who vote against it because mommy and daddy thought it was bad when they grew up. They are uneducated on the effects and reasons for drug use. They were brought up being told not to use drugs because they are bad, but other white collar crimes are tolerable. These are people that regularly cheat on their wives, gamble, screw taxpayers out of money for rediculous expenditures, and even lie under oath. Why they get to say whether or not I grow a plant, a freacking plant, in my house and then burn it is beyond me. But, that is why I vote each year.

Hell, even our last two presidents have dabbled in drugs.
 

ToBeMe

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I am against it's use and legalization, but, can see the points of those for it's legalization. My stand, as it has always been is, I'm against anything that has "mind altering" qualities and yes, that includes cigarettes, alcohol & prescription meds.

I'm not saying I haven't had the need to use the latter, but, very seldomly even after my back surgeries and I stopped using them even before the doctors suggested. Hell, I rarely take asprin or other "over-the-counter" remedies and I do suffer from sinus problems.

I also partake of an occasional glass of wine, or a beer, but, these are legal and when/if I do, I do so in my home or at the very least when I'm positive I will not be operating a motor vehicle.

Having said this, as I remarked above, I'm also not totally against it's legalization for those whom wish to partake as it is a freedom of choice and could reap huge monetary benifits. My main concern is the harm it *may* do to families whom can not control it's addictive properties, and of course children. I can also understand those whom wish to use pot medicinally if the problem is chronic/terminal, I just do not like being in a mind altered state for any reason unless the pain is so severe that to do otherwise would be irresponsible.
 

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<< Until people quit electing conservative anti-drug politicians who vote against it because mommy and daddy thought it was bad when they grew up >>



That's idiotic. Most Americans want it to remain illegal.

I would never vote based on that one issue and if you do you are an idiot!

I am for the cultivation and sale of Hemp products.

I am against the legalisation of pot, but only jail time for marketers and importers as they normally are involved in much worse contriband.

I am for Employers being able to give drug tests and weeding out employees that use illegal substances. I am for Insurance Companies to raise rates at their will for ANY drug use.

I am for medical use, but the active ingredient that helps ease pain can be applied in a patch. One has no need at all to smoke it. The Medicinal Marijuana Lobby is funded by recreational users and not by those in the medical community for the most part. Their agenda is plain to see!

One of the biggest reasons I against the recreational use is the inevitable regulation and taxes. One only needs to look at tobacco to see how this would just give Big Government another way to control your life. More dollars in Government hands is BAD!

The other reason is that we have alcohol and all it's social problems. Do we wish to double those problems? This doesn't even address the hourly long time use health effects that we see with cigarettes.

I have seen friends waste their lives smoking pot. Others with alcohol. One more vice is not needed! We have enough!

 

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<< I'm anti-anti-marijuana! >>



Me too. I don't give a rip what people want to smoke, but when other people(government) tell them they can't or they're criminals, then that's just ridiculous.
 

IGBT

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With wide spread drug testing in the work place. Random and pre-employment, how much of a future does a doper smoker have??
 

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I'm not exactly "pro" marijuana, but I lean more that direction than "anti" mary j.

I think it should be decriminalized, meaning, it's okay to have it in your possesion, but it's illegal to sell. If you get caught smoking up, no biggie. You get caught selling it, you get thrown in the slammer. Same way I feel about most other drugs.

Other than that, I'd much rather have my (future) kids stumble home toked up than piss drunk. Of course neither would be preferable, but we all know that kids will be kids.
 

royaldank

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<< Until people quit electing conservative anti-drug politicians who vote against it because mommy and daddy thought it was bad when they grew up >>



That's idiotic. Most Americans want it to remain illegal.

I would never vote based on that one issue and if you do you are an idiot!
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I'm not suggesting that you vote based soley on their position on marijuana. However, I would suggest that their stance on marijuana is probably indicitive of their open mindedness towards other topics. Since we all know most every politician is a hippocrite, I see someone that is for legalization as someone that will admit what he thinks and doesn't just follow what their parents or the government (or lobbyist) has to say.

Most Americans see it as bad because they have never tried it and/or because it's illegal and the school system has taught us for years that drugs are the worst thing on the planet. The same DARE officer that is telling you drugs are bad goes home at night and knocks off a six pack while watching prime time TV.

There are social problems associated with every drug. But, I think most people will agree that anyone who wants pot can find it with relative ease. The social problems associated with pot are allready prevalent whether its legal or not. There is a market whether or not it's legal. However, now you have guns blazing over territory rights and this, that, and the other. I doubt you see gang murders and things like that over a bottle of alcohol. If that seems far fetched, that is what happened during prohibition. Then, the government decided it wasn't worth it to let Al Capone and company continue their ways, so they legalized alcohol again. The same thing is happening with weed. The same thing is happening with crack.

I also think taxes and regulation on the drug would help the government. You may see throwing more dollars at the government as wrong, but without it, much of what we take for granted it lost. Why not use the money in education projects? There needs to be a serious revolution in the way we teach people about drugs. This crap about DARE and other programs is a complete waste of time. Drugs aren't going away. Like it or not, telling your kids everyday that drugs are bad is not going to make them go away. But, like with many topics today, the only way we deal with them is to declare them bad and try to teach kids, and others, to stay away and freighten them. I think the right way to deal with this is to teach them what they are and what they are for. They are for recreation. We are creatures and we have stimuli that detect good and bad. When I'm smoking a bowl, I know it's good. If Joe Blow next door smokes and feels bad, then that is how he feels and he probably shouldn't do it. However, limiting me is absurd. I have a full time job, contribute to society, and have absolutely no moral problems with smoking herb. But, I think this comes from studying the effects and evalutaing on my own terms why and when I smoke. There are plenty of people that probably can't decide this for themselves, but ask the bum downtown asking for spare change so he can score another bottle of Boone's Farm whether or not he can handle alcohol.

Another reason that legalization would be good is by getting kids and adults alike out of the situations they are forced to deal with when scoring a bag. Now, many have to go to crack houses and deal with shaddy characters and literally put their lives in danger. I realize they don't have to be buying it in the first place, but they are. Drugs have been around as long as man. People aren't going to stop using them because a government tells them they can't. Especially when some are legal and some aren't.

I say this because I like smoking. However, I rarely drink. I don't much care for it and I personally think it makes me unresponsive and feel bad. I have made my own mind up and I get mad that the government has taken my right to injest a cartain drug. I've been to Amsterdam several times and I've seen what social weed can be. I live in America and I've also seen what illegal drugs can produce, namely warzones in the suburbs and in the projects.

But, to each their own. We elect our politicians and I vote. I also explain my views to anyone that wants to listen and continue to smoke my herb. That's all I can do right now. Maybe in the future I'll run for office, but currently I am not in a position to do that.
 
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