Are you buying a HD 7970 on Monday the 9th?

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d3fu5i0n

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I've owned 6970s previously and I was able to get the max, 950 fairly easily. However, the cayman doesn't scale very well with oc'ing, unfortunately. It may not be worth the hassle.

Hmmh, funnily enough, I got a BIG boost from OCing to 840/1325 before. Trixx is okay - but the "restore settings" on reboot sounded like a 'clear the OC'. Turns out it takes a couple of seconds and then it activates your OC. Not as clean as CCC's method. That's why I mentioned before as to why I don't like other programs. :\
 
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Don Karnage

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If I didn't own 1000+ stocks I would say that buying 3 is quite stupid. Since I own lots of stock, Are you sure you only want 3?

I just ordered a pair of refurbished GD235hz's for 400 so i can only afford 3 this week :\

UPDATE: Just tried. Erm... unless I'm supposed to reboot my system, AB only allowed up to 840/1325 as well, with no voltage control.
Disabled OverDrive, still the same.

I tried Trixx and it allows further OCing and voltage control. Well, seems AB wasn't for me, but Trixx'll do great. How far 'should' it go?

Shoot for 1Ghz core
 

3DVagabond

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Cutting into profit margins is a horrible mistake no matter how you look at it. Yeah its great for people who don't want to spend the money for a 6970 but not for amd

Sorry, but you assume a lot of things you have no facts to back. Those who bought a 6950 instead of a 6970 would have likely bought one anyway. Just like the 5850 before it, O/C'ing the 6950 brought it close enough to the 6970 that most enthusiasts knowledgeable enough to unlock their cards would have bought 6950's anyway. By them being unlockable helped keep their price higher. They probably would have been a $200 card a while ago if they didn't unlock.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I'd consider one if they're available for under $500, but that probably will take a few weeks.
 

Don Karnage

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Sorry, but you assume a lot of things you have no facts to back. Those who bought a 6950 instead of a 6970 would have likely bought one anyway. Just like the 5850 before it, O/C'ing the 6950 brought it close enough to the 6970 that most enthusiasts knowledgeable enough to unlock their cards would have bought 6950's anyway. By them being unlockable helped keep their price higher. They probably would have been a $200 card a while ago if they didn't unlock.

Come on 3D. Your going to actually say that people didn't rush out in droves to get a 6950 once they heard it unlocked? Amd lost a lot of sales because of that unlocking fiasco.
 

d3fu5i0n

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Shoot for 1Ghz core

blackened23 is right in my view. I just tried 900/1350 and I only got about 2FPS more than I did versus 840/1325. From 800/1250 to 840/1325, I got around 7 [perhaps 8] FPS more. I don't know why...

In The Witcher 2 that is. [I played the same scene of course].
 

Dark Shroud

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Nope. Gonna wait for nVidia to drop their 600 series.

That's not going to happen, because they're going to call it the 700 series to keep up with AMD. Good look hoping Nvidia can counter, AMD can do a massive OC'd card and possibly a respin by the time Nvidia gets out the door.

I voted yes but i'm waiting for MSI lightning or ASUS dc2. I want a fancy VRM and aftermarket cooling.

Yeah I'm on th fence about it, my stock 6970 is doing well. I'll wait to see what MSI & Asus roll out before I spend my money on this gen because I can wait it out for the respin/8000 series as well. Had I waited a bit I could have bought one of Asus's tripple slot HD 6970s or a Twin Frozor model. Lesson learned.
 

Don Karnage

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blackened23 is right in my view. I just tried 900/1350 and I only got about 2FPS more than I did versus 840/1325. From 800/1250 to 840/1325, I got around 7 [perhaps 8] FPS more. I don't know why...

In The Witcher 2 that is. [I played the same scene of course].

I should have asked. What processor are you running?
 
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If I had a need for a gpu I would. I run bf3 at pretty damn good settings (good enough for me)with my oc'ed gtx 480. Only other game I play is streetfighter 4 and it could be maxed out on a gtx 460.
 

3DVagabond

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Come on 3D. Your going to actually say that people didn't rush out in droves to get a 6950 once they heard it unlocked? Amd lost a lot of sales because of that unlocking fiasco.

So, people rushed out to buy an AMD card and AMD lost a lot of sales? If it was a fiasco they would have stopped it long ago. Instead Sapphire, their main board partner, decided to pre load the unlocked BIOS on their 6950's. They did it with the Toxic first, a premium model that made them more money, and that was such a bad thing they decided to do it to the other 6950 models they released after that. I'm telling you mate, that was no fiasco/accident/mistake.
 

Concillian

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Over at Overclock. Let me find the link

http://www.overclock.net/t/1192539/fud-amd-hd-7950-wont-show-up-on-january-9th

Speculation is that amd doesn't want to make the same mistake it did with the 6950

Just one random guy's speculation.

That forum has some interesting people....

Originally Posted by G woodlogger

Either the yield are bad or TMSC/AMD makes a lot more money on them than 69xx, I just see it as a consumer. The die are smaller and therefore cheaper to make. It is as simple as that.

May be they need it for future development, i don't know.

Someone hire this guy, he has a clearer grasp of the economics of semiconductor processing than anyone else I've seen.
 

3DVagabond

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^^^ It's a brand new process. There could well be a lot of start up expenses that need to be considered. As a process matures it gets cheaper. 40nm and larger are mature processes. We don't know that early 28nm chips are cheaper to produce.
 

blackened23

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Pretty sure you're paying for years of research & development? Not the die itself which costs very little.
 

sandorski

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Just one random guy's speculation.

That forum has some interesting people....



Someone hire this guy, he has a clearer grasp of the economics of semiconductor processing than anyone else I've seen.

Couple months back there was a statement basically saying AMD was going to raise their revenues by raising prices. I don't recall whether this was a statement made by an AMD executive or an Analysts musing, but the fact is that AMD has been overly aggressive on Pricing the last few generations.
 

hclarkjr

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nope, getting second 6950 as soon as those that bought this card sell there old video card
 

Grooveriding

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Clearly 14 of you are insane. INSANE I say! 7970 is horrible performance/$! Outrageous! No one is going to buy this card. ()

Abstaining from voting as I am waiting for the MSI Lightning 7970, unless it comes out on Monday too :thumbsup:
 

Don Karnage

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Clearly 14 of you are insane. INSANE I say! 7970 is horrible performance/$! Outrageous! No one is going to buy this card. ()

Abstaining from voting as I am waiting for the MSI Lightning 7970, unless it comes out on Monday too :thumbsup:

I'm shooting for an Asus Reference 7970. All i want on monday
 

Jhatfie

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nope, getting second 6950 as soon as those that bought this card sell there old video card

Hehe, I'll likely be one of those people selling their 6950's. In all honesty I should wait a bit, but I have never been known for having great patience and I also tend to cycle hardware a couple times a year so chances are pretty good that I will be buying one as long as prices are not gouged.
 

nsavop

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That's not going to happen, because they're going to call it the 700 series to keep up with AMD. Good look hoping Nvidia can counter, AMD can do a massive OC'd card and possibly a respin by the time Nvidia gets out the door.

Nvidia using 7xx is just a rumor which hasnt been confirmed in less you know something we dont. If kepler releases in late 1Q i wouldn't count on any respins that close to the 7970 launch.

I would wait another month to see performance of the rest of the 7xxx series as well as more info on Kepler.

No need to beat the AMD drum because someone wants to wait for Kepler.
 

Concillian

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^^^ It's a brand new process. There could well be a lot of start up expenses that need to be considered. As a process matures it gets cheaper. 40nm and larger are mature processes. We don't know that early 28nm chips are cheaper to produce.

I didn't think I would need sarcasm tags, but it looks like some people still need them.
 
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