Are you getting a PSP Go?

[fatdragondzc]

To be honest, the thing looks like a Sony Mylo. I think there was an article about it, so I wasn't the only one who noticed it. Not only that, but after Gamespot(I think) tested the PSP go, it's battery life is actually LESS than that of the PSP-3000. With no option to change batteries because its welded to the board, you're going to look at very little play time.

 

[dguy6789]

People actually voted yes? Must be trolling.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

No. Two hundred and forty nine US dollars for a system "upgrade" that removes features, makes the screen smaller, etc. Also, losing the ability to play games with a physical media that actually has some value is a deal-killer for me.

 

[blurredvision]

I want one, but I'm not paying that much for it. So no.

 

[Oyeve]

Nope, I already have a PSP and my son has a PSP and neither one of us has touched it in well over a year.

 

[BenSkywalker]

I'm planning on getting one, huge increase in features combined with a significantly lower price then anything comparable, by far the best deal at what it is atm. Had one of the non flash RAM PSPs, sold it off as it was far too limited in what it could do as a media device. iPod touch of the same size costs more and isn't close on the gaming side of things.

If I was looking for a portable gaming device I'd buy a DS, err, I already did that What I've been keeping my eye open for is a portable media device that is comparable to iPod Touch or ZuneHD which the PSP Go is, and it can play some decent games too while being cheaper. For what I am looking for, the PSPGo seems to be the best value on the market.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I'm planning on getting one, huge increase in features combined with a significantly lower price then anything comparable, by far the best deal at what it is atm. Had one of the non flash RAM PSPs, sold it off as it was far too limited in what it could do as a media device. iPod touch of the same size costs more and isn't close on the gaming side of things.

If I was looking for a portable gaming device I'd buy a DS, err, I already did that What I've been keeping my eye open for is a portable media device that is comparable to iPod Touch or ZuneHD which the PSP Go is, and it can play some decent games too while being cheaper. For what I am looking for, the PSPGo seems to be the best value on the market.

This makes me curious. You say the older PSP's are limited as a media device, yet they can do everything the PSPGo is going to be capable of and more (UMD - not that that is terribly relevant). As far as raw media goes, the PSP (and the Go) simply will never compare to the iPod or even Zune HD once it comes out. It's gaming hardware, with the added value of being able to handle some media functionality. The ONLY thing the PSP has going for it in that market is UMD (again, not terribly relevant and irrelevant with the Go), and external memory storage which both the iPod and Zune HD are lacking entirely.

Given that criteria, the PSPGo will actually be the WORST device of the group, in my opinion, purely for media functionality.

 

[Aikouka]

I already own a fat PSP that's been hacked... so I don't have much desire to change.

 

[BenSkywalker]

yet they can do everything the PSPGo is going to be capable of and more

Really? Cool, how do I store 15GB worth of tunes and a couple movies on the current PSPs? Also, how do I shrink it down to fit in my pocket?

As far as raw media goes, the PSP (and the Go) simply will never compare to the iPod or even Zune HD once it comes out.

My PSP throttled my iPod as far as raw media capabilities(wma support please, vastly superior video playback), it just didn't have the storage and was far too bulky to use. The Zune is much better, but still has limitations I'm not fond of, and neither of them are remotely close to the Go in terms of games.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
significantly lower price then anything comparable

Well, other than the standard PSP, which has a significantly lower price than the PSP Go.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: mugs
No. I already have a PSP that I never use.

i need to sell mine.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

yet they can do everything the PSPGo is going to be capable of and more

Really? Cool, how do I store 15GB worth of tunes and a couple movies on the current PSPs? Also, how do I shrink it down to fit in my pocket?

16GB memory stick or MicroSD /w MS adapter. Better yet, you can use this solution with MULTIPLE memory sticks to swap them out for different media on the go! (Granted the PSPGo will support this as well, but just saying it can be done... now).

As far as size? If you have a pocket that you're going to be putting the PSPGo into, it will probably hold a PSP as well. I'm not talking about the tight-fitting jeans pockets either, I'd never put anything electronic in there for fear of breakage.

As far as raw media goes, the PSP (and the Go) simply will never compare to the iPod or even Zune HD once it comes out.

My PSP throttled my iPod as far as raw media capabilities(wma support please, vastly superior video playback), it just didn't have the storage and was far too bulky to use. The Zune is much better, but still has limitations I'm not fond of, and neither of them are remotely close to the Go in terms of games.

Okay, so I'll give you quality (though I personally haven't tested it - but am very curious now since an iPod should theoretically be better as it IS meant to be a media device.

On the gaming front, well yeah, you hit it on the head there. That's because the PSP is first and foremost a gaming device. Only time and more developer support going to these alternative platforms may change that. Until then, the PSP will definitely have the edge in gaming.

 

[ZetaEpyon]

Originally posted by: mugs
No. I already have a PSP that I never use.

Me too.

 

[BenSkywalker]

16GB memory stick or MicroSD /w MS adapter. Better yet, you can use this solution with MULTIPLE memory sticks to swap them out for different media on the go!

16GB total comes up short, multiple memory sticks? I guess if I'm carrying around a case, but if that is the case I'd just have my laptop on me anyway.

As far as size? If you have a pocket that you're going to be putting the PSPGo into, it will probably hold a PSP as well.

The PSP is quite a bit longer, over an inch, closer to two. For portable devices that is VERY noticeable(my newest phone is 0.2" thicker then my last and it drives me nuts).

Okay, so I'll give you quality (though I personally haven't tested it - but am very curious now since an iPod should theoretically be better as it IS meant to be a media device.

I really don't even think it's close, part of that could be due to the PSP having a clearly superior screen for video, but the support for WMA playback for me is a big one, much better then Apple's support(although Zune supports wma strangely enough ). ZuneHD may be up to PSPGo for media capability, although I'm not convinced atm, but it certainly won't also have the gaming capability. Price is still a question there too. The 16GB iPodTouch is $50 more then the PSPGo, I would expect MS to follow Apple in pricing as they normally do in that market.

On the gaming front, well yeah, you hit it on the head there. That's because the PSP is first and foremost a gaming device. Only time and more developer support going to these alternative platforms may change that. Until then, the PSP will definitely have the edge in gaming.

For pure gaming I'll stick to the DS, it simply kills the PSP when it comes to games. But having something like GT PSP to play around with for some downtime wouldn't be a bad way to kill some.

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: Krazy4Real
No, I already have a psp.

 

[Golgatha]

I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.


Edit: SD cards are dirt cheap and have sufficient DRM built in to eliminate most piracy. If Sony really wanted my money, I'd be willing to pay for a PSP Go with a SD slot and games that came on SD cards or some sort of flash based memory chip for the same price as UMD format games. The SD cards could be resold, so the 2nd hand market would still be there, and I would get to have a smaller form factor PSP. The price would have to come down to the PSP-3000 price levels as well, since I'm saving them money on UMD drives. Heck, if they really wanted the full $250 asking price for a PSP Go, I'd probably be willing to pay for it if they included the flash memory based carts, a system to transfer the carts to my PSP Go's internal memory (through Online authorization most likely), and that same system would let me deauthorize the game from my PSP Go so that I could resell it later if I wished. Think of it as iTunes with a physical way to transfer ownership of the digital rights to my content.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.


Edit: SD cards are dirt cheap and have sufficient DRM built in to eliminate most piracy. If Sony really wanted my money, I'd be willing to pay for a PSP Go with a SD slot and games that came on SD cards or some sort of flash based memory chip for the same price as UMD format games. The SD cards could be resold, so the 2nd hand market would still be there, and I would get to have a smaller form factor PSP. The price would have to come down to the PSP-3000 price levels as well, since I'm saving them money on UMD drives. Heck, if they really wanted the full $250 asking price for a PSP Go, I'd probably be willing to pay for it if they included the flash memory based carts, a system to transfer the carts to my PSP Go's internal memory (through Online authorization most likely), and that same system would let me deauthorize the game from my PSP Go so that I could resell it later if I wished. Think of it as iTunes with a physical way to transfer ownership of the digital rights to my content.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

 

[Queasy]

When my yearly income and free time doubles, yes I will get a PSP.

As it stands now, the two 360s, Wii, and two DSs are more than enough.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.


Edit: SD cards are dirt cheap and have sufficient DRM built in to eliminate most piracy. If Sony really wanted my money, I'd be willing to pay for a PSP Go with a SD slot and games that came on SD cards or some sort of flash based memory chip for the same price as UMD format games. The SD cards could be resold, so the 2nd hand market would still be there, and I would get to have a smaller form factor PSP. The price would have to come down to the PSP-3000 price levels as well, since I'm saving them money on UMD drives. Heck, if they really wanted the full $250 asking price for a PSP Go, I'd probably be willing to pay for it if they included the flash memory based carts, a system to transfer the carts to my PSP Go's internal memory (through Online authorization most likely), and that same system would let me deauthorize the game from my PSP Go so that I could resell it later if I wished. Think of it as iTunes with a physical way to transfer ownership of the digital rights to my content.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

^^

that is one of the stupidet things i've ever read on this console forum.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

It doesn't remove price gouging because there is no competition. You cannot buy a used digital game, so what incentive is there for them to lower prices? I'd have no problem with digital distribution if it also meant fair prices. A digital game should never cost the same as a retail game, but unfortunately they will (and often end up costing more than the retail version).

Digital games drop in price? Kinda like the new 360 digital games right? Where a game that retails for $10 with a physical copy will sell for $20 digital, right? Makes sense.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.


Edit: SD cards are dirt cheap and have sufficient DRM built in to eliminate most piracy. If Sony really wanted my money, I'd be willing to pay for a PSP Go with a SD slot and games that came on SD cards or some sort of flash based memory chip for the same price as UMD format games. The SD cards could be resold, so the 2nd hand market would still be there, and I would get to have a smaller form factor PSP. The price would have to come down to the PSP-3000 price levels as well, since I'm saving them money on UMD drives. Heck, if they really wanted the full $250 asking price for a PSP Go, I'd probably be willing to pay for it if they included the flash memory based carts, a system to transfer the carts to my PSP Go's internal memory (through Online authorization most likely), and that same system would let me deauthorize the game from my PSP Go so that I could resell it later if I wished. Think of it as iTunes with a physical way to transfer ownership of the digital rights to my content.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

^^

that is one of the stupidet things i've ever read on this console forum.

Then you don't read your own posts.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

It doesn't remove price gouging because there is no competition. You cannot buy a used digital game, so what incentive is there for them to lower prices? I'd have no problem with digital distribution if it also meant fair prices. A digital game should never cost the same as a retail game, but unfortunately they will (and often end up costing more than the retail version).

Digital games drop in price? Kinda like the new 360 digital games right? Where a game that retails for $10 with a physical copy will sell for $20 digital, right? Makes sense.

Steam runs sales on games all the time as well as price drops.

Live Arcade games have dropped in price.

Live runs weekly sales (though not as good as Steam).

Granted, prices haven't dropped as fast or as frequently as everyone would like but the whole digital distribution thing is still in its infancy. As more people enter the digital distribution market along with more people to buy those games, we'll see price drops and sales happen more frequently. The only thing that will be missing is the reselling of games.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

It doesn't remove price gouging because there is no competition. You cannot buy a used digital game, so what incentive is there for them to lower prices? I'd have no problem with digital distribution if it also meant fair prices. A digital game should never cost the same as a retail game, but unfortunately they will (and often end up costing more than the retail version).

Digital games drop in price? Kinda like the new 360 digital games right? Where a game that retails for $10 with a physical copy will sell for $20 digital, right? Makes sense.

It does remove it because the publisher will try to rejuvinate sales should they fall by lowering prices. It's far more convenient for them to do it via digital than retail for a variety of reasons.

As for what the game costs, a digital distribution isn't free, you know. It may not be as expensive as plastic, transportation, and boxes but you have other costs. Besides, if it's worth X (or less) amount to you, that's what you'll pay for it.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.


Edit: SD cards are dirt cheap and have sufficient DRM built in to eliminate most piracy. If Sony really wanted my money, I'd be willing to pay for a PSP Go with a SD slot and games that came on SD cards or some sort of flash based memory chip for the same price as UMD format games. The SD cards could be resold, so the 2nd hand market would still be there, and I would get to have a smaller form factor PSP. The price would have to come down to the PSP-3000 price levels as well, since I'm saving them money on UMD drives. Heck, if they really wanted the full $250 asking price for a PSP Go, I'd probably be willing to pay for it if they included the flash memory based carts, a system to transfer the carts to my PSP Go's internal memory (through Online authorization most likely), and that same system would let me deauthorize the game from my PSP Go so that I could resell it later if I wished. Think of it as iTunes with a physical way to transfer ownership of the digital rights to my content.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

^^

that is one of the stupidet things i've ever read on this console forum.

Then you don't read your own posts.

Oh snap, the flame wars and name calling have started!

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Golgatha
I have a DS Lite and an all-digital distribution gadget doesn't interest me in the least. Also, I've borrowed a PSP from a friend for a long period of time to play a few select titles, and found the battery life, portability, and screen size to be very adequate.

I also see an all-digital distribution model as anti-consumer when no price decreases on the software accompanies the removal of resellable, physical merchandise.

That's laughable when it gives the consumer convenience, speed and removes the price gouging because the title never goes out of print. Furthermore, digital games do go down in price.

It doesn't remove price gouging because there is no competition. You cannot buy a used digital game, so what incentive is there for them to lower prices? I'd have no problem with digital distribution if it also meant fair prices. A digital game should never cost the same as a retail game, but unfortunately they will (and often end up costing more than the retail version).

Digital games drop in price? Kinda like the new 360 digital games right? Where a game that retails for $10 with a physical copy will sell for $20 digital, right? Makes sense.

It does remove it because the publisher will try to rejuvinate sales should they fall by lowering prices. It's far more convenient for them to do it via digital than retail for a variety of reasons.

As for what the game costs, a digital distribution isn't free, you know. It may not be as expensive as plastic, transportation, and boxes but you have other costs. Besides, if it's worth X (or less) amount to you, that's what you'll pay for it.

That's not getting rid of price gouging, that's called a "sale" which every retail game ever made has had as well.

The production costs (while still far less than physical) have nothing to do with it: if I'm paying the exact same price and not getting a physical disc, its a rip off plain and simple.