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KeithP

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I doubt developers will make much use of the extra field of view other than to show extra landscape that is completely pointless to playing the actual game. The Crysis video is a good example. When they show an indoor shot, the extra monitors show you walls. It doesn't really buy you much. Not to mention performance issues.

The bezels are a problem as well but I am sure some manufacturers will solve that problem with thinner bezel displays or maybe a single unit with 3 panels with virtually no bezels.

Personally, I much rather spend the extra money and get a high quality 46"-55" 1080P LCD or plasma display for gaming.

-KeithP
 

Nathelion

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Seriously, I don't see this being a big hit for gaming, not in this generation at least (tbh, I would be surprised if it becomes a big hit for gaming in the next several generations). It's just too expensive to buy, the bezels will be too annoying (unless you buy specialty thin-bezel screens that will cost more), displayport just isn't ubiquitous yet, and performance will suffer - it's hard enough to get games to run well at 2560x1600 as it is.
No, what this will be AWESOME for is 2D work. Programming? AWESOME. Bring up 10 browsers side by side? AWESOME. Design work? AWESOME.
I mean, every generation they tend to sell a xx70 x2 with 4 display outputs just for multimonitor support, obviously the need for multimonitor setups is there for a market segment that is significant enough to justify those cards. So there is obviously a part of the market that will appreciate this technology - I just don't think that the gaming demographic is it.
 

imaheadcase

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I would not even consider it if it was free. The borders between every monitor is SO distracting. These types of things are suited for business setup's and not gaming..even them business would not use a full monitor, use each one separate.

Did they not learn for Matrox when they tried it?

 

alcalde

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Jun 20, 2004
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Here's another solution:
http://www.gizmag.com/nec-crv43-curved-display/11892/

There are a lot of games this technology is suitable for: flight simulators and racing games in particular, where bezels wouldn't be a problem and you'd gain something being able to see to either side of you.

"and performance will suffer - it's hard enough to get games to run well at 2560x1600 as it is"

I think the whole point of it is that the next generation AMD card is capable of decent performance at these resolutions, otherwise there'd be no point in doing it. I saw one clip on Youtube which apparently had 4 cards in one machine driving 24 monitors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vf8R_gOec
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: alcalde
Here's another solution:
http://www.gizmag.com/nec-crv43-curved-display/11892/

There are a lot of games this technology is suitable for: flight simulators and racing games in particular, where bezels wouldn't be a problem and you'd gain something being able to see to either side of you.

"and performance will suffer - it's hard enough to get games to run well at 2560x1600 as it is"

I think the whole point of it is that the next generation AMD card is capable of decent performance at these resolutions, otherwise there'd be no point in doing it. I saw one clip on Youtube which apparently had 4 cards in one machine driving 24 monitors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vf8R_gOec

Yet they don't tell us "you can run Crysis at 30fps using this setup"

Just wait...it'll be pretty slow performance on games like Farcry 2, Fallout 3, Crysis, etc

That's my guess based on multi card Setups running 30" monitors and the performance they are getting.
 

scooterlibby

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Maybe a 30 inch is in my future if the financial gods/demons smile upon me, but that's where I would stop with a money tree. Bezels would be too distracting for me when playing FPS games.
 

ronnn

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Seeing that setup of 3 monitors in portrait mode - made me think that 3 - 19" may not have too big a footprint and I do enjoy street racing games.
 

Bateluer

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I want to see how it plays out first. You can get some nice 20, 22, and 24in LCDs for pretty cheap today and effective gaming at those resolutions would be pretty slick. No doubt it'd take a pretty beefy system to actually play a modern game on the combined resolution of 3 1920x1080 LCDs though.
 

MrK6

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Eh, it'd be tough for me to improve over my 30", but never say never . If they came out with some really slick 19" monitors with small bezels I might consider it.
 

alcalde

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"Yet they don't tell us "you can run Crysis at 30fps using this setup"

Depends on which article you're reading. I saw WoW being played on 6 screens, highest quality, with 80+FPS, and the CryEngine 3 being running on 3 screens. You're not going to be seeing numbers yet because the specs are still under embargo until AMD officially announces the cards next month. Seriously, though, there'd be no point including technology to use resolutions that the card can't effectively handle. I'm reminded when the AMD K6-III was about to debut and someone "leaked" benchmarks that showed the chip performing worse in floating point than the K6-II. Why in the world would AMD release a new chip that performed worse than the previous model? Of course, the leaked numbers turned out to be wrong.

For those talking about using projectors and who still don't think the card can actually handle it, check out this clip in which 6 HD projectors are used for playing Left 4 Dead at 5,500 x 2,000 pixel resolution.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...ring-left-4-dead-on-a/

 

poohbear

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dude learn how to make survey questions, with no option for "No, its a ridiculous amount of money", you'd think respondents dont want to do it because they're "not interested" or think "nvidia rulz".
 

Dribble

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Would use 3 monitors for 2D work. Multi monitors for gaming would need some killer games to show it off - that means more then just the same game on what is effectively a bigger screen with annoying bars down it. Cost is also an issue - that high a res is going to mean you're gonna have to stay with a cutting edge Xfire set-up the whole time.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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For some reason I thought it was some sort of 3d thing when I voted. Would change my vote from maybe to not interested. Even if bevelless monitors started coming out the seams would still bother the crap out of me. I'll stick with my 32" TV as a monitor over a 60" or whatever setup that looks terrible.
 

alcalde

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Originally posted by: Dribble
Would use 3 monitors for 2D work. Multi monitors for gaming would need some killer games to show it off - that means more then just the same game on what is effectively a bigger screen with annoying bars down it. Cost is also an issue - that high a res is going to mean you're gonna have to stay with a cutting edge Xfire set-up the whole time.


Ok, I'll say this one more time... you're not going to need Xfire, you're not going to get 1 FPS rates. Folks need to check out the demos and the photos that Tempered81 posted. AMD had *one* card driving the CryEngine3 on three monitors, and *one* card playing Left4Dead on a 6-HD projector setup. They did also show off a presumably quad crossfire system that was driving 24 monitors though.

If I read the leaked specs in Tempereed81's post, the top-of-the-line card has double the stream processors and TMUs of the HD4890, among other unknown improvements, so it's quite prepared to output at hi-res.
 

aka1nas

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They said Crossfire wasn't working with this tech yet, FWIW. Don't know if they could possibly be rendering the 24-screen setup on one GPU, that sounds a little too off-the-wall.
 

Dribble

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Originally posted by: alcalde
Originally posted by: Dribble
Would use 3 monitors for 2D work. Multi monitors for gaming would need some killer games to show it off - that means more then just the same game on what is effectively a bigger screen with annoying bars down it. Cost is also an issue - that high a res is going to mean you're gonna have to stay with a cutting edge Xfire set-up the whole time.


Ok, I'll say this one more time... you're not going to need Xfire, you're not going to get 1 FPS rates. Folks need to check out the demos and the photos that Tempered81 posted. AMD had *one* card driving the CryEngine3 on three monitors, and *one* card playing Left4Dead on a 6-HD projector setup. They did also show off a presumably quad crossfire system that was driving 24 monitors though.

If I read the leaked specs in Tempereed81's post, the top-of-the-line card has double the stream processors and TMUs of the HD4890, among other unknown improvements, so it's quite prepared to output at hi-res.

Well that's L4D which is based on an ancient DX9a engine - my old 8800GT used to play that fine with 4*AA, tbh I think my 7900GTO from before then could also run it max just less AA. It does basically show why ati came out with this. If all they have is console ports which run fine on single monitors using cards from the generation before last or older then why would anyone want to buy this new next gen card?

If however some next gen games do arrive designed to make full use of these cards power then you can be sure the 5870 won't be able to run it at some outrageous multi monitor resolution...
 

Genx87

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Might be kind of cool for flightsim. But any other genre forget it. This is really imo a niche product. Financial and security details will probably be the biggest recipients of this. Maybe some graphics designers and network operations.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Might be kind of cool for flightsim. But any other genre forget it.

Race sims as well. TBH, even the Cryengine3 video on the 3 screen setup didn't look too bad and would look even better with thinner bezels.
 

solofly

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I voted at some point I will but right now I've got other things to worry about such as whether or not I'll be satisfied with two HD5870s 2GB(each) or if I should go with a similar setup as I currently use consisting of three GPUs...
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Scoop
No interest whatsoever to watch bars splitting the screen into parts.

I don't like that part of it either. That is another reason I am waiting for more display port usage. Display port will enable them to make monitors without the need for a bezel for controls on the monitor . All they need is the screen and the smallest frame possible to go around it, so it should enable someone to put the monitors very close together with very little border.
 
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