Are you guys READY for a female US President?

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Frackal

I'm confident I know more about the political climate in your country than most Americans. But that's not saying much.

Unbelievable.

The rules here prohibit me from fully summarizing my opinion on your attitude.

Enough with the phoney indignation already.

Care to comment on the thread topic?

Another assumption, no, it wasn't phony irritation, I thought your derision was pretty obnoxious and a few other things.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Hillary has a very good chance to win. She is centrist enough to grab the necessary votes in key states like Ohio and Florida.

She's far from centrist...she just acts like it in the Senate b/c she wants to run for Prez in 08.

What difference does it make if she's acting or not...whatever grabs the votes. The American public needs little to be decieved, and you don't have to look far for proof of that.

 

[Polish3d]

What if you're the one who harbors the incorrect ideas? Ever consider it?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ntdz

She's far from centrist...she just acts like it in the Senate b/c she wants to run for Prez in 08.

Actually I think she is - she's remarkably hawkish, actually. Even my diehard GWB-loving neoconservative bosses, who are the current and past heads of AIPAC in Minnesota and major Bush supporters, are fans of hers.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Hillary has a very good chance to win. She is centrist enough to grab the necessary votes in key states like Ohio and Florida.

She's far from centrist...she just acts like it in the Senate b/c she wants to run for Prez in 08.

What difference does it make if she's acting or not...whatever grabs the votes. The American public needs little to be decieved, and you don't have to look far for proof of that.

Kind of like when Bush said he was a "uniter not a divider".

 

[Lurknomore]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ntdz

She's far from centrist...she just acts like it in the Senate b/c she wants to run for Prez in 08.

Actually I think she is - she's remarkably hawkish, actually. Even my diehard GWB-loving neoconservative bosses, who are the current and past heads of AIPAC in Minnesota and major Bush supporters, are fans of hers.

She's reverting back to her Goldwater ways- I believe there's still some of it in her blood- to have a chance in '08.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
'cos you're gonna have one in less than 2 years

How will America adjust to a female President? Discuss.

how far down the totem pole is condoleeza? i'd have to imagine she's the first one down the line, right? that's a lot of deaths in high up people you're talking about though.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

The sad thing is, he's probably right. Especially considering that, apparently, the only issue in '04 for a majority of Americans was gay marriage, even though neither candidate was for it.

oddly enough, bush had lower turnout in states where gay marriage was on the ballot in some form or another.

 

[delas52]

I dont care the person's race, sex, religion, sexual alignment, etc. as long as they are a good president...

 

[AragornTK]

The only person I can see running that would be able to sweep both parties is Rudy, he'll run on issues, and the DNC will tout him as "the leader that endured through 9/11" he's pretty popular on the speaking circuit with democrats AND republicans

...as for the republicans... possibly Zel Miller... alot of people liked him when he came out in support of Bush at the RNC

if that's the way the parties go... Rudy will win, because he is an icon, Miller is just a "good guy"

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: AragornTK
The only person I can see running that would be able to sweep both parties is Rudy, he'll run on issues, and the DNC will tout him as "the leader that endured through 9/11" he's pretty popular on the speaking circuit with democrats AND republicans

...as for the republicans... possibly Zel Miller... alot of people liked him when he came out in support of Bush at the RNC

if that's the way the parties go... Rudy will win, because he is an icon, Miller is just a "good guy"

What the hell are you talking about? Rudy is a Republican, and Zell Miller at least nominally a Democrat. Rudy can't get the nomination because the Republican base won't go for it, and neither party is insane enough to nominate a wacko like Zell Miller.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: AragornTK
The only person I can see running that would be able to sweep both parties is Rudy, he'll run on issues, and the DNC will tout him as "the leader that endured through 9/11" he's pretty popular on the speaking circuit with democrats AND republicans

...as for the republicans... possibly Zel Miller... alot of people liked him when he came out in support of Bush at the RNC

if that's the way the parties go... Rudy will win, because he is an icon, Miller is just a "good guy"

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.................
Zell Miller? That guy is a complete wack job. Ever see the guy on SNL do his Zell Miller
impersonation, it's hilarious.
I would actually prefer the asshole Rudy over almost any Republican, but he is pro-choice and doesn't have a chance of getting the nomination.

 

[kogase]

Although my brain tells me that a woman could make a fine president, my heart cringes at the idea because of my pride in being a man.

 

[The Linuxator]

How the hell did Hillary Clinton become president 3 years before the elections start ??? Everybody is like Hillary this Hillary that, are those people who are saying this campaigning for the elections from now by forcing the idea down people's throats that she is going to be president ??

Once election's time comes, then will see who are the nominees and what there chances are. Personally I don't have a problem with Hillary, yet her political agenda isn't much clear ATM which is what is going to affect my vote on whomever nominates himself /herself.

Concerning the OP's question, yes as long as she doesn't believe that turning the ME into rubble will give the world some peace.

 

[BlancoNino]

I'm sick of hearing about how Hillary is a centrist.

IT'S NOT TRUE!

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'm sick of hearing about how Hillary is a centrist.

IT'S NOT TRUE!

Hillary is pro-war. She isn't a liberal.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ntdz

She's far from centrist...she just acts like it in the Senate b/c she wants to run for Prez in 08.

Actually I think she is - she's remarkably hawkish, actually. Even my diehard GWB-loving neoconservative bosses, who are the current and past heads of AIPAC in Minnesota and major Bush supporters, are fans of hers.

No true Republican likes Hillary...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ntdz

No true Republican likes Hillary...

I guess that depends what you consider a "true Republican." I don't consider GWB one, myself, and I don't think a "true Republican" would support his profligacy and disregard for individual rights. That being said, I know a number of Bushies who love Hilary.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ntdz

No true Republican likes Hillary...

I guess that depends what you consider a "true Republican." I don't consider GWB one, myself, and I don't think a "true Republican" would support his profligacy and disregard for individual rights. That being said, I know a number of Bushies who love Hilary.

I'm not one of them. I despise that woman and always have.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Not for President Hillary I'm not. It doesn't matter because she wouldn't win.

As for a female President itself, no problem. I'm more interested in having a good President who will provide excellent and correct leadership. I could care less about the skin color, gender, or even sexual preference.

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: jimkyser
Firstly, I'm not so sure the next president will be a female. That said, I have no problem with a qualified female becoming president. And I DO believe there are females out there who are qualified. The gender of the candidate will have absolutely no bearing on whether they get my vote.

:thumbsup:

 

[slyedog]

hilliary is not a liberal? come on. she can be what ever she needs to be just for a vote.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jimkyser
Firstly, I'm not so sure the next president will be a female. That said, I have no problem with a qualified female becoming president. And I DO believe there are females out there who are qualified. The gender of the candidate will have absolutely no bearing on whether they get my vote.

This is true, Republicans would support no matter who they put up for the puppet position as long they get 51% of the sheeple to vote Republican.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I don't think Hillary will win... for a number of reasons.

First, she is an amazingly polarizing figure. Love her or hate her... there isn't much middle ground. Of all the candidates expected to run on either side (with the possible exception of Newt Gingrich) she enters with the greatest percentage of voters already saying yes/no. She will have a hard time changing any opinions of herself and has a huge uphill battle to swing any voters to her side that aren't already there.

Second, she has a lot of skeletons in her closet from her "husband's" term in office. If you thought the Swift Boat Vets were digging up some questionable stuff on Kerry, wait till you see what comes out when Hill decides to run for prez. The right will have had 8 years to fully flesh out the scandals she and Bill managed to side-step when he was in office. (And yes, his actions will reflect on her) She'll be more prepared for it than Kerry was but it will be every bit as damaging if not more.

Third, have you ever heard her give a speech? She gives a droning monotone that escalates in volume until it's so shrill it hurts. At that point it doesn't matter what she's saying, nobody wants to hear it. Sad to say it but the race for prez is as much a popularity contest as anything... and she doesn't have what Bill had. There is nothing particularly endearing about her.

Fourth, it would be a mistake to think that anyone is just going to hand the nomination to her. The Dems made that mistake with Kerry last time around. They might be a little skittish about doing it this time around. There is a whole cast of characters in the Democratic party who will be formidable opponents. They have more experience, less controversy and are just plain more likeable than Hill.

The few things she does have going for her are substantial though. Let's face it... there are a lot of women who will vote for her JUST because she's a woman. It may sound superficial to say it but you're kidding yourself if you discount that fact. Combine that with the narrow margin between left/right in this country and there is more than just a little bit of potential for her to pull it off. Another thing she has is the ability to raise money by the truckload. Her candidacy will not be hurting for millionaire donors.

Ultimately it will come down to who the Republican candidate is. Rudy could beat her. The big question with him is if the Republicans will vote for a pro-choice guy. There are a couple of other possibilities out there as well.

Either way, I predict that this will be the NASTIEST presidential campaign we've seen in our lifetimes. Don't forget your helmet.

 

[delas52]

These so called "scandals" should have NO EFFECT on anything. Only an idiot can base their vote for president on someones personal life, but unfortunatley we have plenty of idiots...

But I don't like Hillary's "Bush-like" approach to Iraq and needing to stay their and not "sway from our path." I hope she doesn't run...