Are you of the top 5% of the AT&T data hogs ?

BabaBooey

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Starting October 1, smartphone customers with unlimited data plans may experience reduced speeds once their usage in a billing cycle reaches the level that puts them among the top 5 percent of heaviest data users. These customers can still use unlimited data and their speeds will be restored with the start of the next billing cycle. Before you are affected, we will provide multiple notices, including a grace period.]



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I would never buy their service to start with but just wondering and am guessing some you here maybe in that club ?

My provider has true unlimited data and no speed bog down after a certain point like t-mobile / AT&T / verizon ( new customers )....:whiste:
 

Anubis

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Reports survey found that only a small percentage of smartphone customers used more than 1GB of data in a month. The company says this top 5% group on average use 12 times more data than the average of all other smartphone data customers.

so the top 5% are using over 10GB a month. some people here are prob in the group some people have posted that they use well over that
 

Bateluer

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How does this effect existing contracts? If you're on an unlimited contract with AT&T right now, and it doesn't specify that they'll throttle you, could you use this change to break that contract without penalty?

This is bit of a major change, not like the few cents change on Verizon a while back.
 

KLin

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How does this effect existing contracts? If you're on an unlimited contract with AT&T right now, and it doesn't specify that they'll throttle you, could you use this change to break that contract without penalty?

This is bit of a major change, not like the few cents change on Verizon a while back.

You probably agree that there can be changes to their acceptable use policy when you sign a contract.
 

gorcorps

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How does this effect existing contracts? If you're on an unlimited contract with AT&T right now, and it doesn't specify that they'll throttle you, could you use this change to break that contract without penalty?

This is bit of a major change, not like the few cents change on Verizon a while back.

Maybe, but you'd be crazy to get out of it because you can't even get an unlimited plan anymore. The only reason to break an agreement is if you want out, but people that still have the unlimited plan obviously DON'T otherwise they would have left a while back. AT&T sounds like they're just forcing people away from the unlimited plans that still have them... a really dumb move. If it's such a small percentage of people that are using that much data, how big of a problem could they really be?
 

Oyeve

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The most I hit was 8gb in a month. That was when I was recovering from PCL surgery and was using my cell tethered to my laptop for internet.
 

Dulanic

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Maybe, but you'd be crazy to get out of it because you can't even get an unlimited plan anymore. The only reason to break an agreement is if you want out, but people that still have the unlimited plan obviously DON'T otherwise they would have left a while back. AT&T sounds like they're just forcing people away from the unlimited plans that still have them... a really dumb move. If it's such a small percentage of people that are using that much data, how big of a problem could they really be?

Not to mention this isn't a contract change. Nowhere in the contracts does AT&T guarantee the speed. That is why they are doing it this way.
 

Rayb

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On average now days 750mb < 6gb per month, it all depends on whether any tethering is involved. Since I've been part of this plan when the max speed was 90 < 115 kb/s for unlimited data at the same price you get now for a measly 250mb. I don't think I'll be changing my plan anytime in the foreseeable future if I can help it.
 

poofyhairguy

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I am not really a data hog. I have my own cloud and everything for movies and music but I rarely use it- my family uses it more. My wife really uses the Netflix and tethering, not me. When I do most of my app downloading I am at home and I use the wifi for extra speed.

With that said, I am not gonna give up an unlimited plan easily because I don't want usage fees. Back in the RAZR/EDGE days one time because of tethering I put together a $3300 data bill!!!!!! I never want that to happen again, but I also don't want to have to monitor my data usage. Throttling, as long as HTTP isn't cut back too much, is a perfectly acceptable middle ground to me. That is just my opinion for mobile, on broadband I use 1TB on average a month so I don't accept any caps or throttles from my provider and I would switch to avoid them.

What does make me upset about AT&T's announcement is that they seem ignorant to the future:

Typically what puts someone in the top 5 percent is streaming very large amounts of video and music daily over the wireless network, not Wi-Fi. Streaming video apps, remote web camera apps, sending large data files (like video) and some online gaming are examples of applications that can use data quickly. Using Wi-Fi doesn't create wireless network congestion or count toward your wireless data usage. AT&T smartphone customers have unlimited access to our entire Wi-Fi network, with more than 26,000 hotspots, at no additional cost.

AT&T is basically saying they can't keep up with streaming video and their solution is you use their damn wifi hotspots. These carriers need to realize that the number one thing pushing 4G technologies is a want for streamed video of some sort (Netflix, video calling, etc.) and if they don't push back these caps considerably (like 10GB) and build networks to accomodate the demand they will get grassroots political pressure to regulate the industry more.
 
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Anubis

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AT&T is basically saying they can't keep up with streaming video and their solution is you use their damn wifi hotspots. These carriers need to realize that the number one thing pushing 4G technologies is a want for streamed video of some sort (Netflix, video calling, etc.) and if they don't push back these caps considerably (like 10GB) and build networks to accomodate the demand they will get grassroots political pressure to regulate the industry more.

this is sadly the same thing every ISP is saying as well
 

s44

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so the top 5% are using over 10GB a month. some people here are prob in the group some people have posted that they use well over that
Totally wrong. Most people use only a fraction of the 2gb allowance.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual cutoff were under 2gb.
 

Anubis

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are you stupid&#191; some people have admitted to using 20+

i average 6 a month i have for nearly 2 years.
VZW doesn't seem to care yet
 
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Nebor

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Totally wrong. Most people use only a fraction of the 2gb allowance.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual cutoff were under 2gb.

I don't think I've ever exceeded 500mb out of 2gb. Most months is under 100mb.
 

Nebor

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That is just my opinion for mobile, on broadband I use 1TB on average a month so I don't accept any caps or throttles from my provider and I would switch to avoid them.

Don't be surprised when your broadband ISP starts throttling you too, and there won't be anyone to switch to because no one else will want you abusing their network with 1tb of data a month.
 

alent1234

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How does this effect existing contracts? If you're on an unlimited contract with AT&T right now, and it doesn't specify that they'll throttle you, could you use this change to break that contract without penalty?

This is bit of a major change, not like the few cents change on Verizon a while back.


I think that's the whole idea, to send you to Sprint
 

poofyhairguy

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Don't be surprised when your broadband ISP starts throttling you too, and there won't be anyone to switch to because no one else will want you abusing their network with 1tb of data a month.

I am in an area with high amounts of broadband competition (at least 4 providers available for my household). I have already left one company that throttled me (they pretty much asked me to leave due to reasons you highlight) to one that is fine with it.

If one day I have to accept less because I move or something that is fine. By that point I will have hit a critical mass in downloading anyway.
 
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how do you use 1TB of data a month? at 1GB per TV episode, that's 1000 TV episodes you download.

shrug. that's like 277 hrs of content assuming 1 MB/sec streaming, which is pretty intense bandwidth use there.
 

KLin

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how do you use 1TB of data a month? at 1GB per TV episode, that's 1000 TV episodes you download.

shrug. that's like 277 hrs of content assuming 1 MB/sec streaming, which is pretty intense bandwidth use there.

torrents. Lots and lots of torrents.
 

alent1234

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this is a cool documentary idea like they did about hoarders. except this will be about people who download media 24x7, spend a lot of money to store it but never consume it since it's too much to be consumed by a normal human being in a lifetime
 

poofyhairguy

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torrents. Lots and lots of torrents.

No, I am done with torrents. I have gotten too many DMCA letters. I have moved on to ssl Usenet.

As far as how I hit the 1TB barrier? Automated programs like Couchpotato, Sickbeard, etc. make that easy.

this is a cool documentary idea like they did about hoarders. except this will be about people who download media 24x7, spend a lot of money to store it but never consume it since it's too much to be consumed by a normal human being in a lifetime

There is no way that I can view all the content, but my wife marathons TV like no one I have ever seen. She gets the main benefit of the content. The fun for me is having a reason to build the servers, learning how to automate it, etc. I like HTPC hardware and consumer servers (I am the "Hardware Guru" on the XBMC forum). I have more HTPCs than TVs.

Oh, and for the record every male in my family going back as long as anyone knows has been a hoarder. My dad has a huge storage building full of hoarded crap. My wife much prefers I bend that urge towards digital content that at worst is a few more bucks on the electric bill to keep around. For the record, I hoard not only pirate media. I have a HUGE DVD (more than 400) collection and the largest Blu Ray collection (130+) of anyone I know IRL.

I didn't mean to threadjack with my (then on topic) comments. Hopefully this post clears that up.
 
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alent1234

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i've had 250 DVD's and over 200 CD's and sold/dumped them all. today it's netflix and spotify.

after a certain point it doesn't make sense to spend $10 or $30 on a piece of media that will only be consumed once or twice a year.

unless you're at home all day on the government teat there is no way to watch more than 2-3 hours of TV a day at the most
 

darkewaffle

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I'm going hard if I use like 5MB per month. I don't need the net that bad and every connection I've ever had on a phone has been horrendous.
 
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I was about to say, you can't use BT like that without eventually getting hammered by the authorities. He has to be hoarding via Usenet.

It's easy to use Torrents and not get caught. Just use one of those blocking things. But be it torrent or Usenet, the same 720p TV shows hit both sides.

I've been a Usenet user for years, but I still don't see how one can use that much bandwidth. You'd have to be a couch potato at the same time and just sit there consuming hours and hours of stuff, or you're just downloading too much to never watch
 
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