Are you supposed to tip when you go pick up your Chinese take out order?

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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Wat? I said nothing of the manner. I said I tip less when a delivery fee is included and made a quip concerning Papa John being a terrible company. In situations where a delivery fee is included, the amount I will tip will be less, as that fee is going to the deliverer. If no such fee is present, I am likely to give the poor chap a few extra dollars for his troubles.

How you've come to the idea that has anything to do with setting a flat rate I am willing to pay is beyond my comprehension.

Now you are trolling a tip thread, delivery fees go to the restaurant.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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why don't you want to make their lives better? why do you hate chinese people so much?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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A tip is supposed to be compensation for service above and beyond what is originally purchased. What service do they add when you do all the work to drive over there and pickup a bag of food and then leave?

A tip is not about above and beyond in the food industry, it's expected for servers. If the counter-staff is making above wait-staff wages then optional.

http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

Restaurants or bars

If you get awful service, talk to the manager. The manager cannot correct the situation if he doesn't know about it. Skipping the tip will not accomplish anything, and the next poor customer who gets that server will get the same service you did.

If you are buying the meal and someone offers to get the tip, tell them they can buy next time, and you pay the whole thing. This prevents any uneasiness about them seeing the amount of the bill or worrying that they will be stingy on the tip.

Restaurants report a percentage (around 12%) of the gross sales for food and beverage to the IRS for their staff. This means that if you have a $200 food bill and $200 wine bill, the restaurant will report 12% of $400 or $48 as income to the server. In other words, the server has to pay tax on it whether you tip it or not. If the restaurants do not report it accurately, the restaurant and the wait staff get audited by the IRS.

Please don't get hung up on the 12%. It is just a reasonable example. I recommend tipping 10-15% on the alcohol and 15-20% on the food. 10% on the wine is perfectly acceptable. Whether to tip 10 or 15 percent would depend in large part on how helpful the server was in choosing the wine and serving it.

Food server - 15-20%.

Self-service restaurant or buffet - Nothing unless there is some service. Tip 10% if the server delivers all or part of your meal or keeps your drinks refilled.

Takeout - If you get good service, in other words, the waiter gets and packages the food, then at your choice you can tip $1-2 or up to 10%. Nothing is really necessary.

Drive through - Nothing.

When breakfast is included in the price of the hotel room - Estimate the value of the meal by looking at a menu. If there is no breakfast menu, consider the quality of the hotel and the price of an evening meal, then make your best estimate. Your tip is 15-20% of your estimate.

Teppanyaki chef - 15-20% of the total bill. The gratuity will be split among the wait staff and the chef.

Counter service - 15-20%.

Cocktail server - 15-20%. For free drinks in Vegas, tip $1-2 per round.

Bartender - 15-20% or $1 per drink. If at the bar before a meal, settle up with the bartender before you go to your table.

Wine steward or sommelier - 15% of wine bill.
If a bar has a cover charge, you do not tip on it.

Busboys - Nothing, unless he did something extra special like cleaning up a huge mess. Then give him $1-2.

Maitre d' - Nothing, unless he gets you a special table or the restaurant is full and you had no reservation. Then give $5-10 or more.

Coat check - $1

Restroom attendant - $1

Separate checks - If you want separate checks, ask the server to go ahead and add 18% gratuity to each check.

Musician that visits table - $2-3 if you make a special request. Optional if he just stops by and plays.

Musician in lounge - $1-5
 

Hugo Drax

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Stupid questions like this just proves how much of a failure our University system is. Simple shit like this people can't figure out.
 

lozina

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A tip is not about above and beyond in the food industry, it's expected for servers. If the counter-staff is making above wait-staff wages then optional.

Well, that's pretty much what I meant.

To me the basic price of eating at a restaurant is the price for the dish. But taking up real estate for several hours in their restaurant while being served and pampered is above and beyond the basic price of the service. So it warrants a tip.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Well, that's pretty much what I meant.

To me the basic price of eating at a restaurant is the price for the dish. But taking up real estate for several hours in their restaurant while being served and pampered is above and beyond the basic price of the service. So it warrants a tip.

Way too complicated and opens the discussion to what if one was just there for 10 mins, 30 mins?

For food/wait service you pay 15%...this is expected and not optional. It's not about anything more than slinging your food on the table and getting drinks.

For cheaper restaurants you get what you pay for. Expect to have to ask for a refill, expect longer wait times.

If you are dropping $100 a person, then chances are your service quality goes up and that's what the 15% is buying you. You may even have 1 or more dedicated waiters that only serve your table. In a Fridays, they may be covering 10 or more tables and everything is thinking they are paying $100 a plate.

Only recently has this become a debate that tips are for above and beyond.

I posted a link above that explains what is customary and what's outside of that.
 

ThinClient

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A tip is supposed to be compensation for service above and beyond what is originally purchased. What service do they add when you do all the work to drive over there and pickup a bag of food and then leave?

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Scarpozzi

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I tip at my local chinese takeout joint because the food is already cheap and made fresh. I can order a single portion, grab a few egg rolls and soup for under $10 and have enough to feed my wife and myself. I don't mind tipping a buck or two on that.
 

Markbnj

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I almost never tip counter staff. If I do it's because I got change back and tossed it in the jar.
 

Jembo

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I tip a buck or two for pic-up.
I would like to add though that I tend to avoid the places that have tip jars out front.
 

Larnz

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So glad we don't have tipping here / its not expected. Whenever I am in the states I find it super annoying but mainly because I am not used to it and I always end up spending over budget because I don't take it into account or tipping to much because I don't want to risk under tipping and looking like a cock.
 

Chaotic42

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I tip well on take out because I've worked crappy fast food jobs before, and the people in my city are cheap as hell.

A few months ago I picked up a pizza and left $5 for the guy. On my way out the door I heard him say "That dude just gave me five bucks, that's crazy!".

I don't get delivery.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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So glad we don't have tipping here / its not expected. Whenever I am in the states I find it super annoying but mainly because I am not used to it and I always end up spending over budget because I don't take it into account or tipping to much because I don't want to risk under tipping and looking like a cock.

You do have tipping, but it's for exceptional service only.
 

JEDIYoda

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I always tip...I have so much disposable money it`s not even funny....
I LOve to tip....to see the look on somebody`s face who had to deal with you all is priceless......

Hell, I have been known to walk into the kitchen and tip the dishwashers....

Hell..I even tipped a customer once for having a well behaves child.....
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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I tip if it is a place I go to a lot (enough that they will recognize me). I've found that this helps build a relationship where my food and I get more attention.

For instance, at my favorite pizza place my pizza is consistently cooked how I like it, and always ready precisely when I arrive, even if they have to bump other orders out of the way.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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It is usually closet to 8%, they also have an option to keep a log book of actual tip amounts, but this isn't done because the 8% on average is way lower than the actual tips.

It's almost impossible to keep an accurate log book with cash tips.

I am not sure why you are arguing this. Some restaurants report high, some lower. Last thing a restaurant wants is an audit if the IRS thinks the employees are massively under reporting wages/tips.

The fact is a restaurant reports a base amount, the IRS knows that amount and the SSN's of the employees on tips. It's the same way they catch people claiming an independent as a dependent or two parents claiming one child.
 

DCal430

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It's almost impossible to keep an accurate log book with cash tips.

I am not sure why you are arguing this. Some restaurants report high, some lower. Last thing a restaurant wants is an audit if the IRS thinks the employees are massively under reporting wages/tips.

The fact is a restaurant reports a base amount, the IRS knows that amount and the SSN's of the employees on tips. It's the same way they catch people claiming an independent as a dependent or two parents claiming one child.

I am arguing because the idea that wait staff pay tax on tips they never received is wrong. Overall they almost always under report tips.
 

alkemyst

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I am arguing because the idea that wait staff pay tax on tips they never received is wrong. Overall they almost always under report tips.

Where the hell did anyone say they pay tax on tips they DIDN'T receive?!?!?!
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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So you tip as payment to have them not spit in your food?



No, that's not the reason why people tip; but something to expect when you don't.

Same thing of being a dick bag to your server. It's ok to not be happy with the preparation, service, etc....however; when you are in a TGI Fridays and try to act like you are a Billionaire, you are going to get fucked.

I don't agree with it, but people do this.
 
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