Are you too awesome to get laid off?

brainhulk

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Wanna see how many important people we have here
 
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Ns1

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I've survived 2 layoffs. Layoffs = opportunity; I got promoted last time everyone got laid off :awe:

Had to keep it on the DL for 2 months.
 

KeithTalent

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I have so far. Would love to get laid off though.

KT
 

purbeast0

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i am, but after the round of layoffs my manager called me into his office and told me i was almost laid off.

probably the single greatest moment of my career because it was a kick in the ass to look for a new gig, which i did, and since then it's been all uphill.
 

Bock

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How do layoffs seem to sneak up on people? Maybe it's just me, but everywhere I've worked, you knew how the co. was doing.
 

xSauronx

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How do layoffs seem to sneak up on people? Maybe it's just me, but everywhere I've worked, you knew how the co. was doing.

some companies are very private about telling employees things. i hate that crap.

anyway, our company is in decent shape, i get a fair amount of praise for how i do my job, and i am only 1 out of 5 IT people. id probably have to royally screw up to get fired, even if the company started to struggle. Our IT dept is about as slim as it can reasonably get.
 

kranky

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I've seen people get laid off for no other reason than a new guy above them wanted his hand-picked people instead of who was already there. Also when two people have been jockeying for a higher level job and the one who wins it ends up canning the loser. There are times you don't see storms on the horizon.

Having seen lots of people get the ax for reasons not related to performance, I decided not to worry about that, but instead I stay out of debt and bulk up savings. So even if rumors start to swirl, I don't let it affect me.
 

ControlD

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One thing I have learned over the years is that nobody is too awesome to get laid off. Nobody is irreplaceable. Perhaps the exception is when you own your own business, but that is a different situation.

I have 20 years in with my current employer. It would be hard for them to get rid of me simply because I have so much equipment out in the field but they could replace me and the company would still get along fine.
 

mikeymikec

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I'm self-employed. I would end up having some serious words with myself if I got laid off!
 

highland145

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One thing I have learned over the years is that nobody is too awesome to get laid off. Nobody is irreplaceable. Perhaps the exception is when you own your own business, but that is a different situation.
Yep but the government could screw me just the same.

I have 20 years in with my current employer. It would be hard for them to get rid of me simply because I have so much equipment out in the field but they could replace me and the company would still get along fine.
One of the reasons I opened my own. Guy worked for another loan company 20+ years. They got bought out and the new company said have a nice day. Then the son of my previous boss said that if something happened to his dad, they were selling everything but the office he worked out of. I did not want to be 50 and looking for a managers job. To date, awesome decision.
 

inachu

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If you make yourself a pretty rose at work then you will be let go.
Get the job with no certification. yearly raises, tell nobody.
 

Nograts

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I'll be seeing you boys in your workplace in a decade, once I lock in this pension. You want to see shitbaggery at work? I'll show you what shitbaggery can truly do.

 

kranky

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Also, the bigger the company, the less they will evaluate layoffs based on what the impact to the work might be. I once worked at a place where out of the blue they did an across-the-board layoff and every department had to cut 15%. The group next to me had proactively cut 3 low performers a couple months earlier and was looking for replacements. They still had to cut 15% so someone higher up the food chain could say the 15% cut was applied everywhere. And they weren't allowed to replace the 3 who got cut earlier. At the end they were down to almost half the size and the work was suffering terribly. Everyone knew why, but nothing changed.

You can't assume any one person or any group is untouchable. Many times layoff decisions are irrational.
 

manimal

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I fired myself from two jobs last year. Sold both companies.


Now I am staying at home with kids so I dont think they can fire me for a few more years.
 

highland145

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I fired myself from two jobs last year. Sold both companies.


Now I am staying at home with kids so I dont think they can fire me for a few more years.
Watch your back. They're already planning your nursing home.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I'm laughing reading some of these comments. No one -- I repeat, NO ONE -- is indispensable. EVERYONE should always have his/her ear to the ground to get the pulse of the company, know its financials, etc. and if things look bad, start preparing to move on.

For the record, I have never been laid off. In one company I worked for, my position was moved but they found another position for me. Prior to that, there had been one or two rounds of layoffs and while I survived, I got more work heaped on me. Even still, I'm not delusional enough to think I'm "too awesome to get laid off." I used that opportunity (and others throughout my career) to move to greener pastures. My mistake at that company (and probably at a previous company too) was that I should've pushed to be laid off to get the fat severance packages, as I would've had NO issues finding another job.

One thing I have learned over the years is that nobody is too awesome to get laid off. Nobody is irreplaceable. Perhaps the exception is when you own your own business, but that is a different situation.

I have 20 years in with my current employer. It would be hard for them to get rid of me simply because I have so much equipment out in the field but they could replace me and the company would still get along fine.

This.

In the situation I outlined above, I was the highest rated employee in my department for years and the company had no qualm about eliminating the position (it was a larger departmental consolidation). Yes, I could've moved to HQ, but to add insult to injury, HQ wanted me to "interview" for it. I had no intention of moving and having to interview was an insult given my accomplishments and what I had achieved for the company, so I took the position that was created for me by our local director with the full intention of buying time to find another job.

Also, at this company, one of my friends was the lone MS application developer. He always bragged about how indispensable he was and that the company would "grind to a halt" if he left. Well, guess what? He got another job offer, went in to his manager's office, and the basic response was "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." Not only wasn't he nearly as indispensable as he thought, they didn't even bother replacing him, let alone throwing money at him to stay. I am 100% sure that if he would've stayed, he would've been laid off in the next round of layoffs a couple years later. Of course, in all fairness, this guy's ego was huge and his apps (with maybe one exception) were not that important and from my conversations with him and observations of some of his applications, he wasn't nearly as good a developer as he thought. He made tons and tons of rookie mistakes. At any rate, he didn't view things correctly and him leaving did nothing except play right into management's hands.
 
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PricklyPete

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Nah. I have a good job that pays well, but I work for a large company now and have made a point to prioritize my life over work the last few years. I couldn't be happier, but I'm not indispensable to the company. What I do know is that I could get another job very quickly. Worst case scenario I can always go back to consulting which will net me more money, but less time with family.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Negative. Resigning next week and then taking a 6-week vacation at minimum. We'll see what kind of job opportunities come up.
 
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