Argument with a friend...

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Let me put this conversation me and him had in better context so you can understand why I made the decision I did.


We were at a party with a bunch of our mutual friends. I said to him "hey man, you gonna sign those papers, they said if you didn't do it in the next week I won't be able to get money off my rent". He's like, "how much you gonna give me" (He's drunk at this time and says it in a rude/aggressive way). At this point Im caught off guard and a bit offended, so I'm like "What are you talking about? I didn't ask for any money from the person who referred me, thats not the way it works"


He goes on to basically hold that signature ransom. He's like well I don't really care, I want half or I'm not signing it. I offered to give him 50 bucks, he wouldn't bite on that. At this point I was pretty pissed off and I told him how I could actually use the money and I didn't have my parents paying my rent for me.

To be honest, he was a bit lazy. I don't think he was even going to sign the paper anyway, so I don't think I would have ever seen any of the money. I say that because prior to this conversation he told me to just go sign it for him. I was like "dude, its like 30 yards away, just go sign it, plus they know who I am, I can't forge your signature". He just was being lazy and wouldn't do it.



XzeroII - Thanks for the insults, I appreciate them. Especially when you are jumping to conclusions. I would have probably never even seen $100, and after this guy insulting me and basically giving me an ultimatum I'd rather neither of us get the money then to let his spoiled fucking ass get $100. It was a calculated risk. I didn't think I've ever see the money and I didn't want to give him any satisfaction out of basically black mailing a friend, ESPECIALLY since I've gone out of my way to help him plenty of times, including helping him move in and then paying for his dinner later that night.

Your reply indicates then that you didn't accept the money in order to punish him. Instead, you ended up punishing both of you. You essentially kicked yourself in the nuts in order to kick him in the nuts. I don't really mean to be rude and offensive, sorry about that, but from my perspective (thinking with my brain, rather than my emotions), you made the wrong choice.

 

[Jester22]

If I was in your situation then I would be pretty angry with his response as well. I?m not really sure how strong of a friendship you guys have, but like some others have pointed out, he doesn?t sound like much of a friend. If I was in your situation I would have accepted splitting the money (if he even bothers to sign it that is) and then kind of end the friendship there.

Or at least somewhat continue the friendship, but never really throw him a bone when he needs money for dinner or lunch or whatever. He might be spoiled enough not to truly understand how much that $200 means to you, or he?s just an ass (being spoiled may also come into play here).

I actually would have mentioned the referral money right when the fact that an apartment was available was brought up, if I was you. So that way you guys could have worked something out right then and there. If he asked for half at that point in time, it may not have stung as much (and hopefully he was sober so he could make a rational agreement).

At either rate, I hope things work out for you. :beer:

 

[olds]

The guy is not your friend.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Well, if he was acting like such an ass, you should have had him sign it and then not give him half.

This is what I would have done. This guy doesn't seem like a friend.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: XZeroII
No offense, but you are incredibly stupid. You're asking who was right, when all you should care about is GETTING YOUR $100. You realize that you chose to accept $0 when you could have had $100, right?

I can't believe how freaking stupid people are...


EDIT: I can't believe how incredibly dumb you are. I just needed to say it again. You left $100 sitting on the table. $100 free dollars. You chose not to accept $100 because you wanted $200. Boo hoo. Cry me a river.

Give me $100 and I'll give the other $100 to a freaking bum on the street.

Good to know honor means nothing to you, and that you can be so easily bought.

I'll give you $100 to stop posting permanently. Don't leave it on the table!

What does honor have to do with this? He refused to share $100 with a friend. If a friend did that to me, I would just tell him that it isn't a problem and give him $100. I'm not too proud. How does that mean that I can be bought? heck, even if he wanted $199 and I would only get $1, I'd still do it. Why not? It's still $1. Granted, I may not be friends with the guy after that, but I'd still get my money.

Tell me, what if the referral amount was $2,000? Would you have split it with your friend? I bet you would have. The problem is that you were greedy and wanted it all for yourself and didn't want to share. If it had been $1,000 for each, then that would have been enough to satisfy you.

Spite, can be worth more than $1 to some people. Its not always about the money. That example you gave also means you'd get taken advantage of, but hey if its just the money, then sure it makes sense.

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

He's not your pal, buddy.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Friend seems like an ass, but if I were in your position I would feel obligated to give him half whether or not he asks for it.

 

[villageidiot111]

I would have told him I'd give him half, but then not give him any. Either way you were gonna lose him as a friend, why not make $200 too.

 

[rezinn]

Your friend is an ass. He didn't ask for it up front so he shouldn't have then. On the other hand, when I was in college everyone always split those things so you probably should have too and got the guy who you gave the referral to to split it with you.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

1) No he doesn't deserve the bonus seeing as how he did not contribute to the referral process other than being a prospective tenant.

2) A person who is so nitpicky as to BLACKMAIL someone over an small amount that they do not deserve to get nor need (the friend's family wealth are relevant insofar as this preoccupation with 50 dollars, 100 dollars is silly) are obviously NOT friends of the OP.

I'm sorry but threatening/blackmailing the OP is NOT the the actions of a 'friend'.

 

[RedArmy]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

He's not your pal, buddy.

He sure isn't your buddy, guy.

 

[mpitts]

You're friend is a dickhole for asking for any money and you are a close second for letting $100 alter your friendship.

So you both suck.

*strikes virtual gavel*

 

[ponyo]

Splitting referral bonus seems like the right thing to do. I would do it whether the person asked or not and I would probably expect the same.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: RedArmy

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

He's not your pal, buddy.

He sure isn't your buddy, guy.

He's not your guy, friend.

And OP you are partially at fault for not providing full disclosure. He is NOT in the wrong to demand 10% and if he really pushed it he could demand any amount since it is his signature that is needed.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: RedArmy

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

He's not your pal, buddy.

He sure isn't your buddy, guy.

Are we gonna start nesting quotes, chief?

 

[arkcom]

You're apartment manager is some kind of idiot. Why didn't they have it right on his application? Were you referred to us by a friend? Problem solved.

 

[Ballatician]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: RedArmy

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The guy is not your friend.

He's definitely not his friend, pal.

He's not your pal, buddy.

He sure isn't your buddy, guy.

Are we gonna start nesting quotes, chief?

He isn't your chief, dude.

 

[kranky]

Your friend was way out of line for asking for ANY of the money. I would not have given in to blackmail and agreed to split it just so you could get some of it.

I think I would have said "Are you really not going to spend 2 minutes signing that form to keep me from getting the $200 I have coming to me? Why would you do that?"

I would have wanted to understand better why he felt he had the right to demand some of the money.