Arizona School Demands Black & Latino Students’ Faces On Mural Be Changed To White

[flavio]

Bullshit.

^^ Bullshit.

 

[Double Trouble]

White Pride - Diversity Sucks - I can't handle seeing another race look more important or valuable -

^^^ He has really got a point :hmm:

Who said anything about white pride? Reverse the situation. Would it make sense to have a mural in the inner city in detroit show a bunch of white kids? Probably not. It's not a matter of racism, it's a matter of logic.

OP: Fail blog story is fail.

It is funny to watch left wing nutcases try to find any little thing to try and demonize Arizona simply because they want to actually enforce laws.

 

[flavio]

It is funny to watch left wing nutcases try to find any little thing to try and demonize Arizona simply because they want to actually enforce laws.

There's a law against black or hispanic people on a mural? It's more fucked up than I thought.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Who said anything about white pride? Reverse the situation. Would it make sense to have a mural in the inner city in detroit show a bunch of white kids? Probably not. It's not a matter of racism, it's a matter of logic.

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All murals, tv shows, movies, etc. depicting people must have an equal ratio of white, black and (non-white) Hispanics in them regardless of the target audience's demographics (other races can be ignored). At least 1/4 of the couples depicted must be interracial, although same-sex couples can be of the same race and still contribute to this threshold.
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Wall said school Principal Jeff Lane pressed him to make the children's faces appear happier and brighter.

"It is being lightened because of the controversy," Wall said, adding that "they want it to look like the children are coming into light."

Lane said that he received only three complaints about the mural and that his request for a touch-up had nothing to do with political pressure. "We asked them to fix the shading on the children's faces," he said. "We were looking at it from an artistic view. Nothing at all to do with race."

 

[dahunan]

<SARCASM>
All murals, tv shows, movies, etc. depicting people must have an equal ratio of white, black and (non-white) Hispanics in them regardless of the target audience's demographics (other races can be ignored). At least 1/4 of the couples depicted must be interracial, although same-sex couples can be of the same race and still contribute to this threshold.
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Maybe that should be a sheep as your avatar

In a broadcast last month, according to the Daily Courier in Prescott, Blair mistakenly complained that the most prominent child in the painting is African-American, saying: "To depict the biggest picture on the building as a Black person, I would have to ask the question: Why?"

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...mural-sparks-racial-debate.html#ixzz0q05S85tz
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[peonyu]

The point of the anti-Arizona racist fear mongering is everyone is supposed to go 'hmmm you know what racism is bad...and somehow that anti-illegal alien law is bad to, since some talking heads on tv said it will likely target mexicans since the majority of illegals are mexican...that there is racist!! scrap the bill and lets open the borders to everyone!! that way it will prove we are not racist".

 

[cubby1223]

I don't get this.

Of course you don't. You choose to view everything within your personal ideological prism.

 

[cubby1223]

I mean, considering that the faces are not being changed to white, yea that pretty much destroys that whole perspective.

Recognize the facts then come back with another perspective.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Seriously? How is it considered acceptable for a councilmember to get people to shout racist slurs at a mural? Because his constituents are also bigots?

In what country does a school call a mural showing black and brown kids "controversial" and change it because bigots hate it? Not in my America...

Ya lots of talk about the bigots that want to whitewash it . But what about the bigots that didn't include a white in the mural to satart with . People who yell about racism are raciest . I see more racism from non whites than I do from whites. I see more laws made for minorities than I do for the Majority rule. Thats right were no longer majority rule . But Rule of law. Screw law it only reverses the problem when enacted .

 

[ProfJohn]

^ there is a white kid in the mural.

I think the big problem was the decision by the painters to make the lead character in the picture a hispanic. Especially with all the problems over the immigration law. It seems like the artists might have been trying to make a political statement.

 

[techforums]

I am not shocked

 

[flavio]

and somehow that anti-illegal alien law is bad to,

Yeah, that law gives up everyone's freedom and is certainly bad. Irrelevant to this topic though.

 

[flavio]

People who yell about racism are raciest .

If you point out racism you're racist. That's idiotic.

 

[flavio]

I think the big problem was the decision by the painters to make the lead character in the picture a hispanic. Especially with all the problems over the immigration law. It seems like the artists might have been trying to make a political statement.

"The children depicted on the mural, as we mentioned before but feel compelled to repeat, are little kids who go to the school "

You're blaming the artist now? Too funny.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

Awesome that after seeing only racism against "whites" for 26 years that I finally see racism against another race. Even better is that they called them "whites" right in the story. I love when people are massively racist and bigoted against light skin and openly admit it and even insult us every chance they get, even in the same sentence as racistly saying we are all racist.

"Greeks, Jews, Brits, you're all just whites. You're all the same!"

 

[Throckmorton]

Interesting how the crowd that is always yelling "How dare you insinuate that racism even exists, we are all colorblind, even saying the word racism makes YOU racist against white people" is now complaining that the predominant kid in the mural isn't white.

You have to be DEEP in right-wing-revisionist-opposite-land to believe that a mural showing kids of several races is racist against white people.

 

[flavio]

Awesome that after seeing only racism against "whites" for 26 years

Wow, where do you live? Or are you just blind to racism against other races?

 

[ProfJohn]

"The children depicted on the mural, as we mentioned before but feel compelled to repeat, are little kids who go to the school "

You're blaming the artist now? Too funny.

You apparently have no understand of art it seems.

Exact same photo, two complete different meanings.

The artist is the person who decides the meaning or which elements to play up or play down, which kids to pic, which kids to place in the center, which kids to make big or small etc etc.

Was the decision to make a hispanic kid the center an innocent decision or was it in response to the illegal immigration law? Based on the stories I have read we don't know yet.

 

[Throckmorton]

Is the kid black or Hispanic? Either way, why the fuck do you care? Why should a black or Hispanic kid NOT be the centerpiece of the mural?

Imagine if the mural featured a white kid, and some black intellectual accused the artist of making some kind of pro-white anti-nonwhite statement. You'd call him a racist and rant about how oppressed the white man is, wouldn't you? You'd probably blame ACORN and Barack Obama somehow too.

 

[Pulsar]

I wonder how the people of Detroit or Washington DC would react if someone painted a mural that featured a bunch of white kids and a token black in the background??

This story reminds me of the one about the 9-11 firefighter statue that they never made because all the firefighters in the photo it was based on were white and a few people didn't like the lack of diversity in it.

BTW Blair sounds like an idiot, but he does have a point. Prescott is 92&#37; white but they decided to make the central figure hispanic.

I live in Detroit. I doubt there'd be any issue. Most of the racism in the city isn't well enough organized to actually get things changed like that.

I see very very little white on black racism in Detroit any more. The suburbs are also pretty well integrated. The vast VAST majority of the issues going on inside Detroit right now are Black => White or even Black => Black. You see far more anti-white racism than anything else in the city now, and you also see a lot of racism against folks that aren't completely black.

Detroit's police department, civil servants, and government are almost completely black. Our city council is largely black, as is the school board.

The point is - no one can really claim any more that the problems in the city are caused by the evil white man. Any racism left in the city can only really be pointed in one direction. in addition, the city has only one group to blame: it's the voters who have voted in incompetent thieving fools like Kilpatrick and his gangsta thugs, and corrupt city officials like Conyers. They seem to have made some much smarter choices this time around with Dave Bing and the new council. I can only hope that direction continues.

 

[Pulsar]

City Councilman Steve Blair spearheaded a public campaign on his talk show at Prescott radio station KYCA-AM (1490) to remove the mural.
In a broadcast last month, according to the Daily Courier in Prescott, Blair mistakenly complained that the most prominent child in the painting is African-American, saying: "To depict the biggest picture on the building as a Black person, I would have to ask the question: Why?"​

HaHa.. and republicans keep trying to push the idea their party does not represent rascist. And he can;t even get it right when he does show his racism. ​

I see. So by that logic the Democratic party represents whoring around and cheating on your wife, because Clinton did it.

Your level of intelligent discourse adds an astounding amount of quality to the conversation here.

 

[Throckmorton]

I see. So by that logic the Democratic party represents whoring around and cheating on your wife, because Clinton did it.

Your level of intelligent discourse adds an astounding amount of quality to the conversation here.

Republicans on this forum are defending the bigot... Of course in their minds, they're the victims and everyone else is racist.

Maybe we should establish an Underground Railroad to smuggle white conservatives to freedom from murals of brown children.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'd like to see the friggin mural. No chance of that I guess.

In the azcentral link there's two people on a scaffold and a face behind it. It's a hideous shade of gray that at the top looks as if it's being painted a more natural skin tone. Maybe the kid was in part shade?

Can anyone find the mural so we can rage properly?

 

[Throckmorton]

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/artic...-of-children-in-arizona-school-mural/19504774

Watch the video.

Interesting how the same town also banned playing soccer in public parks.

 

[flavio]

The artist is the person who decides the meaning or which elements to play up or play down, which kids to pic, which kids to place in the center, which kids to make big or small etc etc.

It was kids from the school. Who cares what race they are?