That's bullshit, there have been police in schools since the 60's . Absolutely no connection to school shootings.
That's bullshit, there have been police in schools since the 60's . Absolutely no connection to school shootings.The whole idea of putting police in schools was a "conservative" solution to school shooters. We should fire every last one of them unless they sign a contract mandating that they immediately confront any active shooter regardless of the circumstances with criminal penalties if they don't. Otherwise, what are they even there for?
From what I've seen these school officers spend most of their time body-slamming teenage black girls. I've seriously seen like 10 videos of them doing that. # of school shooters stopped: 0
But there are student abuse cases directly related.That's bullshit, there have been police in schools since the 60's . Absolutely no connection to school shootings.
So? There are student abuse cases about teachers and custodians too. There are also abuse cases by students against other students and against parents and faculty ? So? You seem to think that police are supposed to be superheroes instead of just citizens with a bit more power than most citizens.But there are student abuse cases directly related.
Yet people still claim hoards of police at schools is the answer. I'm not opposed to a few armed guards in school but the can't be the first and last line of defense.However armed security at schools isn't the answer.
1) If you think about the school shooting at Virginia Tech that killed 30+ people, its a little known fact that SWAT was roaming the campus prior to the shooting and were less than 5 mins away from the guy. He still killed 30 people within fairly close quarters. Or look at the Las Vegas shooting as well. Or the recent shootings at military bases. Again security was there and it meant basically nothing.
2) Even if the numbers of armed guards are so high that it truly is a deterrent to these types of shooting, these crazies will just find softer targets like malls, churches, events, etc You can't have soldiers everywhere.
The VT shooting was so crazy. SWAT was roaming the campus en masse looking for the guy because he was a known shooter having killed 2 people 30 mins or so prior to going to virginia techs campus. SWAT was on campus at VT looking for him madly. He still killed 32 people just walking room to room. In fact, SWAT didn't stop him or come close to stopping him; he stopped himself by committing suicide.Yet people still claim hoards of police at schools is the answer. I'm not opposed to a few armed guards in school but the can't be the first and last line of defense.
School cop is a job, not a military enlistment. Ultimately it's X risk of death vs Y dollars of income forfeited by being fired. Most people will not play Russian roulette for any money in the world.
From what i've heard that coach had a carry permit, but it's illegal for him to have a firearm on school property. My bet is the outcome would have been different if he was carrying that day.
Perhaps there would have been fewer casualties. I wouldn't put money on it though when the fight is an AR-15 in a hallway held by someone specifically training for this vs a pistol in the hands of someone caught by surprise.I read that too and I'd wager there would have been fewer casualties that day had he been carrying too.
+1However armed security at schools isn't the answer.
1) If you think about the school shooting at Virginia Tech that killed 30+ people, its a little known fact that SWAT was roaming the campus prior to the shooting and were less than 5 mins away from the guy. He still killed 30 people within fairly close quarters. Or look at the Las Vegas shooting as well. Or the recent shootings at military bases. Again security was there and it meant basically nothing.
2) Even if the numbers of armed guards are so high that it truly is a deterrent to these types of shooting, these crazies will just find softer targets like malls, churches, events, etc You can't have soldiers everywhere.
How would he have been caught by surprise? The shooting was ongoing as he approached.Perhaps there would have been fewer casualties. I wouldn't put money on it though when the fight is an AR-15 in a hallway held by someone specifically training for this vs a pistol in the hands of someone caught by surprise.
Perhaps there would have been fewer casualties. I wouldn't put money on it though when the fight is an AR-15 in a hallway held by someone specifically training for this vs a pistol in the hands of someone caught by surprise.
There is a page in American Rifleman magazine that list them every monthwhere?
I think in this scenario the odds of being surprised are way higher for the person searching for a specific thing than the person who doesn't have to search for anything.How would he have been caught by surprise? The shooting was ongoing as he approached.
I disagree, but it's all speculation. I'd rather have someone that runs in there next time be armed.I think in this scenario the odds of being surprised are way higher for the person searching for a specific thing than the person who doesn't have to search for anything.
Everything is easy in hindsight. I would like to see an analysis of mass shootings going back say 40 years. With the objective of determining how many of the shooters were identified as a threat prior to the massacre they carried out. Then we can generate some statistics, try and identify patterns of behaviour, weapon(s) used, how the weapon(s) and ammunition were obtained etc. Anyway. Enjoy. )
Why not the local police are well? They also failed.
There should be accountability at all levels for this one. But it seems that the sheriff's office had the main influence here. When it came to handling the situation 'in progress', it was a local police department that actually went into the building while the deputies stayed outside, per department instructions.
The department rightly realized that if their deputies went inside, there was a possibility that they would be shot.
There should be accountability at all levels for this one. But it seems that the sheriff's office had the main influence here. When it came to handling the situation 'in progress', it was a local police department that actually went into the building while the deputies stayed outside, per department instructions.