Army planning on a new rifle

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Munchies
Infact, just to prove my point im going to take a picture tonight of my bandoiler that reads ".30 AP Ball" with an M-**** classification, i forgot the numbers though. I will post tonight

Bueller? Bueller?... Bueller?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: K1052
Awaiting pic......

..........

 

[Howard]

You're waiting for proof from a teenager who says he designs "high performance engines"?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Howard
You're waiting for proof from a teenager who says he designs "high performance engines"? <img src="i/expressions/fac...ue.gif" border="0">

Hmm, either PCResources was resurrected after his untimely non-death in Afghanistan, or he had a bastard child. :laugh:

I love Munchies' site.

Disclaimer....This website in no way resembles the final product of our goals. We might not even work towards it's completion, because since word has gotten out we have our hand full tenfold!

Call if you need parts, or a jobbie done.

EDIT: Damn, read that thread. No wonder Munchies decided to come try and argue about guns and ammunition, he was shown up in that car thread. :laugh:

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

Don't underestimate plastics- http://www.robot-club.com/rc/bullets.JPG

That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

Don't underestimate plastics- http://www.robot-club.com/rc/bullets.JPG

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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

Will they need to?

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

Don't underestimate plastics- <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.robot-club.com/rc/bullets.JPG
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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

Will they need to?

Are we still using the same weapon we used in the 60's? Essentially, yes.
You tell me.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

Don't underestimate plastics- <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.robot-club.com/rc/bullets.JPG
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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

Will they need to?

I own guns that belonged to my grandfather, and they are still in perfect working condition. I know they will still be working when I pass them on to my children. I am not sure about all these polymer guns, though.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

Don't underestimate plastics- <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.robot-club.com/rc/bullets.JPG
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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

Will they need to?

Yes. Maybe not 50 years, but at least 25 with a rebuild here and there.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Munchies has been by, but still no reply.

Last Visited On: 08/30/2004 04:41 AM

I guess he is still looking for that ammunition.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Munchies has been by, but still no reply.

Last Visited On: 08/30/2004 04:41 AM

I guess he is still looking for that ammunition.

Methinks we will never see the "proof".

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

I own guns that belonged to my grandfather, and they are still in perfect working condition. I know they will still be working when I pass them on to my children. I am not sure about all these polymer guns, though.

Exactly. Guns take alot of stress, and voer time that can really bang them up. I dont know if these polymers will stay intact as time goes on. They could break down with age or suffer minor stress cracks from the shooting.
Even worse then the questionable effects of the 5.56 would be blowing the gun apart in battle because your polymers failed!!

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox

Originally posted by: Beattie
That thing looks like it's made of plastic. I dont know how I would feel going into combat with a plastic gun. <BR><BR>Any armed forces people here have experience with this weapon?

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That's polycarbonate, they're probably using somethign tougher. Delrin, perhaps.

I dont underestimate plastics strength, I underestimate its longevity. Will these guns still work 10 years from now? What about 20? Will the frames start to crack or weaken? What about 50 years from now?

Will they need to?

Are we still using the same weapon we used in the 60's? Essentially, yes.
You tell me.

Are we using *the* same weapons, as in manufactured in 1960?

Polycarbonate has one major weakness- UV radiation will kill it in about a year if left out. AFIAK, it's a very hardy plastic other than that. Even better if it's black Polycarb (most is clear). I wonder how much active service a gun would have to see to accumulate a year's worth of sun... depends on the application I guess.

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
I own guns that belonged to my grandfather, and they are still in perfect working condition. I know they will still be working when I pass them on to my children. I am not sure about all these polymer guns, though.

I'm not sure they're intended to be heirlooms, but hey.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Still waiting on those photos, Munchies.

 

[CyraKrin]

that gun looks like it belongs in the toy isle @ K-Mart.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Still waiting on those photos, Munchies.

Well, it has been a couple days since I logged in... I second the above post.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Still waiting on those photos, Munchies.

Well, it has been a couple days since I logged in... I second the above post.

Munchies, we know you're around. Come on, where are those photos?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Still waiting on those photos, Munchies.

Well, it has been a couple days since I logged in... I second the above post.

Munchies, we know you're around. Come on, where are those photos?

He has been posting in his Scout thread. Maybe someone should pop over there and remind him.:evil:

 

[Howard]

If you already know he can't provide proof, stop thinking about it. It doesn't do anybody any good.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Howard
If you already know he can't provide proof, stop thinking about it. It doesn't do anybody any good.

Well, really, there are three possibilities:
1.) He was correct and has in his possession some ammo that the USA government designated "AP ball". Not likely, but possible.
2.) He was talking out of his a$$.
3.) He was sold some "AP ball" that turned out to be as bogus as the alleged M995 an acquaintance of mine purchased. He researched the M-xxx designation, found out it was bogus, and is now in hiding.

I think possibilities #2 and #3 are the most likely.