Army surpasses July recruiting goal...

jonks

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August 10, 2007
Army Tops Its July Recruiting Goal
By THOM SHANKER
WASHINGTON, Aug. 10 ? After falling short of its recruiting goals for two months in a row, the Army met its July quota for signing up new soldiers as it poured more manpower and other resources into the effort, the Army said today.

In a statement, the Army said that it was augmenting its number of recruiters in the field by pulling people from other jobs in the recruiting organization as well as by adding people from other parts of the Army, including recalling about 1,000 former recruiters to bolster its normal field staff of about 8,000.

Pentagon officials had been paying close attention to Army recruiting efforts, which have struggled to attract new troops as the United States remains deeply engaged in a prolonged and dangerous ground war in Iraq that has required repeated, lengthy deployments of substantial numbers of soldiers.

The Army signed up 9,972 new soldiers in July, surpassing the goal of 9,750. Each of the other three services also reached their monthly targets for active-duty and part-time personnel, except for the Air National Guard, which reached only 87 percent of the target.

Army officials acknowledged that its success in July, after two troubling months of failing to meet targets, is at least partly due to a new bonus of $20,000 offered to recruits who sign up by Sept. 30, which ends the fiscal year.

The Army is pressing to meets its end-of-year goals, with extra efforts including the incentives, a new advertising campaign and assigning a larger number of personnel to recruiting positions after beginning to add to its permanent recruiting staff in 2005.

Army officials on Friday expressed optimism that the service would meet its goal of 80,000 recruits this fiscal year.

?We are continuing to reach out to the American public with a number of innovative programs, including the $20,000 ?quick-ship? bonus,? said Paul Boyce, an Army spokesman. ?To put our current success in perspective, consider that we?re recruiting an all-volunteer force during a protracted war for the first time in history.?

Mr. Boyce said that summer is typically a peak recruiting period for the armed services, as young people in the military?s prime age group for recruits find themselves between high school and a decision about college or long-term career choices.

As of July 30, the Army had recruited 61,864 soldiers for the active-duty service, which is above its target as it enters the last two months of the fiscal year, officials said.

The Army met its recruiting quota last year, in the 2006 fiscal year, but failed to do so in the 2005 fiscal year, which was the first time in six years the service had not reached its targets.

The Army missed its June goal of 8,400 by about 1,000. And in May, the Army fell 400 enlistees short of its goal of 5,500.

Not only is the Army trying to overcome its casualties in Iraq as it seeks to attract recruits, but the service has also embarked on a five-year program to increase its active-duty strength to 547,000, from the previously authorized level of 514,000.

In July, the Marine Corps, which is second only to the Army in carrying the burden of the ground conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, signed up 4,793 new personnel, exceeding its goal of 4,613.

The Navy met its active-duty target of 4,173 new sailors, and the Air Force also reached 100 percent of its goal of 2,078 recruits.
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$20,000 is a lot of money to an 18 year old. I owe $150,000 in loans so 20k isn't going ot get me to do much, and I'm too old I suppose at this point. This is economic theory at work, but some will probably argue it's just more likely to push the lower economic earners into military service. Still, it's a choice, and better than a draft.

And what about the men and women currently serving who signed up before this package started...I'm guessing they won't be getting a retroactive pay raise.
 

babylon5

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If they keep upping the bonus, pretty soon Army will need to give away houses and cars.

After that, they might save money by draft if more war in middle east breaks out.
 

umbrella39

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They surpassed their recruiting goal and yet the keyboard soldiers somehow evaded their grip yet another month.
 

halik

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well no shit... people know that going to the armed forces right now is a big risk... so you need to compensate them.
 

StageLeft

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Too bad the dumb asses who will sign up for that will blow it on junk like stereo upgrades and that mustang they always wanted and then look at pictures of it while getting mortared 500 miles from anywhere that they'd even think about wanting to be.
 

1prophet

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Do they still pay bonuses half up front and the rest monthly over the length of the contract?
 

Darthvoy

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
They surpassed their recruiting goal and yet the keyboard soldiers somehow evaded their grip yet another month.

Bwahahaha!
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Do they still pay bonuses half up front and the rest monthly over the length of the contract?
Depending on the branch and MOS, the bonuses can be paid out several ways. Some, if they're lucky, get a lump-sum payment. Others receive half up front and another 25% after X number of years, and another 25% later, etc.

It all depends on the MOS, the specific slot you go for, and what deals you work out with your recruiter.Many times you can ask for Airborne, Ranger, DLI, and other schools in your contract. They even allow you to elect Special Forces on your contract (which, IMO, is a huge mistake.. but hey, that's another story altogether).

Enlistment and re-enlistment bonuses are a great incentive, but if you ask me, they really don't amount to much in the long run.

I, for one, hope they keep raising the bonuses... I'm due to re-up soon!
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Do they still pay bonuses half up front and the rest monthly over the length of the contract?
Depending on the branch and MOS, the bonuses can be paid out several ways. Some, if they're lucky, get a lump-sum payment. Others receive half up front and another 25% after X number of years, and another 25% later, etc.

It all depends on the MOS, the specific slot you go for, and what deals you work out with your recruiter.Many times you can ask for Airborne, Ranger, DLI, and other schools in your contract. They even allow you to elect Special Forces on your contract (which, IMO, is a huge mistake.. but hey, that's another story altogether).

Enlistment and re-enlistment bonuses are a great incentive, but if you ask me, they really don't amount to much in the long run.

I, for one, hope they keep raising the bonuses... I'm due to re-up soon!



Doesn't seem so much when it is paid out like that, but then again to an 18 year old kid who never worked it looks like alot and I wouldn't be surprised if many blow it on superficial material things.
 

ProfJohn

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If you think the army is having a hard time getting recruits now wait till we have a Democrat in office.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Do they still pay bonuses half up front and the rest monthly over the length of the contract?
Depending on the branch and MOS, the bonuses can be paid out several ways. Some, if they're lucky, get a lump-sum payment. Others receive half up front and another 25% after X number of years, and another 25% later, etc.

It all depends on the MOS, the specific slot you go for, and what deals you work out with your recruiter.Many times you can ask for Airborne, Ranger, DLI, and other schools in your contract. They even allow you to elect Special Forces on your contract (which, IMO, is a huge mistake.. but hey, that's another story altogether).

Enlistment and re-enlistment bonuses are a great incentive, but if you ask me, they really don't amount to much in the long run.

I, for one, hope they keep raising the bonuses... I'm due to re-up soon!



Doesn't seem so much when it is paid out like that, but then again to an 18 year old kid who never worked it looks like alot and I wouldn't be surprised if many blow it on superficial material things.

It's even better when one of them blow it all on dumb shit, and then get chaptered out before their term of service is up. The look in their eyes when they find out that they will have to pay it back to the government is priceless.
 

Brovane

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Please remember that the Army is trying to meet a goal to not only keep the US Army at its current level but also expand the size of the Army by over 30K + troops over 5 years. From my understanding also these recruitment bonus vary depending on what MOS you pick, term of enlistment and what skills you have. Also the Army is authorized to offer up to $40k in enlistment bonuses.

 

maluckey

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Some of the bonuses for retention can go well over 60, 000 (look for 18 series bonuses if you want to choke!). Also, in a combat zone, some of the bonuses are lump-sum and tax free. Imagine getting 21,000 dollars over one month as only an E-6!!

Bonuses are sometimes rewards, not always incentives. Soldiers sometimes change MOS to follow the $$ and for better promotion potential. I switched a few years back from 19D for better schools and faster promotion. My Retiremert looks far better at the moment, to the tune of over five hundred bucks per month better.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
If you think the army is having a hard time getting recruits now wait till we have a Democrat in office.
Word. Soldiers hate signing up knowing that there's a good chance they won't have to go to the Middle East. Really turns them off!
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: maluckey
Some of the bonuses for retention can go well over 60, 000 (look for 18 series bonuses if you want to choke!). Also, in a combat zone, some of the bonuses are lump-sum and tax free. Imagine getting 21,000 dollars over one month as only an E-6!!

Bonuses are sometimes rewards, not always incentives. Soldiers sometimes change MOS to follow the $$ and for better promotion potential. I switched a few years back from 19D for better schools and faster promotion. My Retiremert looks far better at the moment, to the tune of over five hundred bucks per month better.
I switched from 11B for some of the same reasons. My current MOS is much more rewarding in every aspect!

 

lupi

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
If you think the army is having a hard time getting recruits now wait till we have a Democrat in office.

Why?

Because it will be much more difficult then than when Heer Rummy was directing Stalingrad II.
 

keird

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I just extended my enlistment knowing that I didn't qualify for any bonuses. I know the reasons, but many don't. Palehorse could figure it out, though.
 

keird

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Do they still pay bonuses half up front and the rest monthly over the length of the contract?

Some of them are lump-sum bonuses. Re-enlistments of critical (MOS) jobs can yield a good up-front bonus, but not the $20,000-40,000 noted in the article.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Topic Title: Army surpasses July recruiting goal...

Did they get enough to make up for record number of offing themselves?



8-15-2007 Suicide rate in Army at a 26-year high

Ninety-nine U.S. soldiers killed themselves last year, the highest rate of suicide in the Army in 26 years, a new report says.

More than one out of four soldiers who committed suicide did so while serving in Iraq or Afghanistan

 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: keird
I just extended my enlistment knowing that I didn't qualify for any bonuses. I know the reasons, but many don't. Palehorse could figure it out, though.
One of my "fun" extra duties is being the DARNS NCO for my unit, so I can think of a few reasons. Then again, there are ways around most of the bonus blockers... did you get counseled by a decent DARNS NCO?

It's always a shame to see guys extend without any bonus at all... you've earned it damnit!
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: keird
I just extended my enlistment knowing that I didn't qualify for any bonuses. I know the reasons, but many don't. Palehorse could figure it out, though.
One of my "fun" extra duties is being the DARNS NCO for my unit, so I can think of a few reasons. Then again, there are ways around most of the bonus blockers... did you get counseled by a decent DARNS NCO?

It's always a shame to see guys extend without any bonus at all... you've earned it damnit!

Finally something we can all, I hope, can agree on.
 
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