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lupi

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So I thought it odd when Diggle had a son, glad they explained that in a flash episode.

And looks like they also used the change to introduce killer frost to this version of earth.

Pulling a new wells into the group, assuming this will be the start for the season long main plot as otherwise not much in that direction has been revealed.

Savitar seems quite cool.
 
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AznAnarchy99

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So I thought it odd when Diggle had a son, glad they explained that in a flash episode.

And looks like they also used the change to introduce killer frost to this version of earth.

Pulling a new wells into the group, assuming this will be the start for the season long main plot as otherwise not much in that direction has been revealed.

Savitar seems quite cool.

Really? I thought he's meh. Yet another speedster villian but this one looks like Megatron. Should have brought a fully developed Gorilla Grodd as the over arching enemy.
 

Elixer

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The 4 episode crossover arc was... (started here http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/supergirl-first-look.2431294/page-9#post-38609592)
Flash:
Flash sees a ton of aliens pour out of the ship, and they leave him be, and he just stares at them.
He then wants to get everyone together to fight the aliens, and the very first engagement, 75% of the team is mind controlled.
Under mind controlled, their aim is crap, they can't hit anything, and, well, they waste time fighting Arrow & Flash one by one, until the kid flash comes along, and shoves them, then gets promptly knocked out and injured, and then Flash save the episode by tricking Supergirl to smash through the alien mind control device.
Kara: "What if you need my help, how will I know?" Heatwave: "I'll call you skirt!"
Then, when he gets into trouble, he calls her supergirl? sigh.
Anyway, now the Arrow & the remaining ones except for supergirl & flash get transported up to the ship.
Arrow:
Surprise! They are in simulators seeing the same stuff.. and this goes on for WAY too long.
Totally worthless for the first 55 mins while they try and figure out that it wasn't all real.

Now, they are awake and moving around on the ship, and since all ships principles of design are universal, they walk into a bunch of aliens that are just standing around doing nothing.
If only they had a weapon!
Wait, there it is, on the wall! And it can fire just like a gun! Woohoo!
Now, let's run to the exact spot where the attack ships are, amazing!
D'oh, if only we could fly this out of here... what to do...what to do... just press this big touchpad in front, and away we go, no need for oxygen or pressure suits or anything! Incredible!
Huh, do you think they noticed that they all escaped?
Of course! Everyone go after them! They show 50+ ships going after them..
Wait for it... yes, they magically know they are being fired upon, and, the ship has shields and is doing evasive maneuvers! These ships rock!
Doesn't matter that they are vastly outnumbered, and that the aliens are firing everything they got at them, they can still avoid everything except that last shot that sends them tumbling. Oh no!

Aliens now have the dreaded triangle beam weapon... they are toast!
What's this, the WaveRider comes swooping in, disrupts the triangle beam, and tractors them away to safety.
...
All this was in the last 5 mins as well. Sigh.

And now comes Legends of Tomorrow for the final part of this crossover event.
 

Childs

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While I think it could have been much better, I guess it was good enough. I'm thinking the next crossover will be full on CW Justice League vs CW Legion of Doom.
 

Kaido

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Just started Flash season 3. Oh man, Draco Malfoy! It took me a split second to realize it was him, so hard to picture that guy as an adult haha.

He's actually a very good actor. I'm only on season 2 & I'm impressed, he definitely has some presence! Really really hard to see past the Harry Potter evilness tho
 

Ketchup

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Sep 1, 2002
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So do you think Flash is going to get a chance to fix "this"? He has been regretting it through every episode so far this season, and as much as it adds some drama to the show, there are plenty of other things (including Felton) that would keep the show interesting without dragging regret through the entire season.
 

Kaido

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Just got caught up on S3 E10. Wooooooooooow @ Barry's new loft!
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Just got caught up on S3 E10. Wooooooooooow @ Barry's new loft!

Yeah... shows that I could use some super powers to help spruce up my place quickly.

Although, it still bugs me how much Barry acts like an idiot most of the time and is only a genius when the plot requires it. The thing is... Barry's super speed isn't just limited to his physical movements. His brain actually processes information at an insane speed too, which is how he can do things like dodge projectiles with ease and read books in seconds. He wasn't an idiot before the accident or anything, but his insane ability to process information and think at a rapid pace is what made him even smarter. However, the show never really shows that because they need a reason to keep the huge Team Flash ensemble around.
 

bigrash

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Feb 20, 2001
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This season of the Flash is good, but not as good as the first two seasons. Let's see how it ends though.
 

Elixer

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Some more crappy effects going on with Grodd & company.
and why didn't Grodd use mind control again?
 

Skel

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Rather big spoiler reveal with DA as prometheus.

I figured that would be the case. I gave up on the show a couple of episodes back as it just got worse and worse. It's Batman and the Outsiders now, and it's so odd to me that they've done almost all Batman stories in this show.

Some more crappy effects going on with Grodd & company.
and why didn't Grodd use mind control again?

I can't remember, but I can only guess he can't control people with powers. Otherwise, you got me... it did cross my mind while I watched it though.
 

Elixer

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I can't remember, but I can only guess he can't control people with powers. Otherwise, you got me... it did cross my mind while I watched it though.
Gypsy has powers though, she was the one that got mind controlled to bring them there.
 

Skel

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Gypsy has powers though, she was the one that got mind controlled to bring them there.

She was from a alternate universe??? IDK.. that whole thing was just so bad it's hard for me to accept it happened and I used to write comics. I cringed every time they tried to go cheap and have Grodd speak through someone. I can't imagine them getting through all that without crying laughing every take.
 

Aikouka

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I kind of preferred the New 52 Grodd. He invaded Central City to try and eat Flash's brains. He's not a zombie, but rather that Grodd can gain abilities by eating someone's brain, and he'd gain Flash's Speed Force powers through that way.
 

Ketchup

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At first this season of The Flash made me a little mad because so much good stuff had been going on, and they pretty much said "forget all that" after the first episode. Now that I have let all that go, it's a decent season. And I suppose on that note, Grodd doesn't bother me, since I am now pretty much in "just go with it" mode. A bit disappointing, but still a good show (still better than Arrow, which I have given up on for the time being). I just hate that it looks like The Flash is never going to return to it's former glory, which, in my book, was season One.
 

R0H1T

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At first this season of The Flash made me a little mad because so much good stuff had been going on, and they pretty much said "forget all that" after the first episode. Now that I have let all that go, it's a decent season. And I suppose on that note, Grodd doesn't bother me, since I am now pretty much in "just go with it" mode. A bit disappointing, but still a good show (still better than Arrow, which I have given up on for the time being). I just hate that it looks like The Flash is never going to return to it's former glory, which, in my book, was season One.
Yeah but there's nothing like the scheming, conniving, stabbing him in the back speedster from season one (or two) & in that sense Flash has already reached it's peak, adding more speedsters like Wally & Jesse et al just weakens the genre
 

Aikouka

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I just hate that it looks like The Flash is never going to return to it's former glory, which, in my book, was season One.

I doubt that it's going to change. Unfortunately, I think Supernatural is still CW's best long-running show. In my opinion, a lot of that is due to Supernatural keeping its main cast a lot tighter than the superhero shows. For about the first five seasons, the show focused on the two brothers, and they eventually added in Castiel (added some fun, fish-out-of-water humor) and then had a higher focus on Crowley. There was also Bobby, but he only became a bigger character for a season or two. One other thing that I like about Supernatural over the superhero shows is that there's almost always an episode or two every season where they just have fun. It's usually something meta where the show makes fun of itself, and it's enjoyable to watch.

If we contrast this with the superhero shows, they have casts that just get bigger, and bigger as the seasons go along. With the creation of Legends of Tomorrow, they were able to remove a few people, but there were still a ton on each show. I believe Arrow pared down quite a bit recently, but it still focuses a lot on ensembles/teams compared to just one person. Compare a lot of this to the Marvel shows on Netflix.
 

TeeJay1952

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I think that as long as writers think that some is good, more is better, we will not see improvement.
Nice pop when secret id revealed? Tell someone once a week.
Interest up in new character? Cities, Countries and the Past (with future thrown in for changeup) added.
I think there are 3 folks without tights left on TV.
 

Skel

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I doubt that it's going to change. Unfortunately, I think Supernatural is still CW's best long-running show. In my opinion, a lot of that is due to Supernatural keeping its main cast a lot tighter than the superhero shows. For about the first five seasons, the show focused on the two brothers, and they eventually added in Castiel (added some fun, fish-out-of-water humor) and then had a higher focus on Crowley. There was also Bobby, but he only became a bigger character for a season or two. One other thing that I like about Supernatural over the superhero shows is that there's almost always an episode or two every season where they just have fun. It's usually something meta where the show makes fun of itself, and it's enjoyable to watch.

If we contrast this with the superhero shows, they have casts that just get bigger, and bigger as the seasons go along. With the creation of Legends of Tomorrow, they were able to remove a few people, but there were still a ton on each show. I believe Arrow pared down quite a bit recently, but it still focuses a lot on ensembles/teams compared to just one person. Compare a lot of this to the Marvel shows on Netflix.

There is def a land grab going on in terms of comic characters. It's almost like the shows are trying to get their versions out there before anyone can use them elsewhere. I'm not sure I agree to much about Supernatural. It's added more and more characters to it's mix and while it doesn't have them every episode, some characters are used too often (if nothing else the witch is really annoying). I'm not even get into super hacker girl.
 

CoffeeisLove

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Oh god do I love this thread! I am currently obsessing over Arrow and Flash and am currently on Season 5 of Arrow but season 1 on Flash. I don't mind spoilers so I can't wait to see what others post here!
 

Kaido

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Ugh, the latest episodes of the Flash are awful. It took me like 3 days just to get through the Attack on Gorilla City episode. Currently working on Attack on Central City. Bleeeeeeeeh. I kinda miss the big story arcs like the first season had with Thawne & stuff. Also, I think there needs to be a limit on how much mushy stuff goes on between Barry & Iris in each episode. Starting to feel like I'm watching a Hallmark show lol.

And I miss fun, quippy Cisco
 
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