arrrrg bid sniping on eBay

MrHappyMonkey

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I was bidding for a new laptop on egay using AuctionSniper.com. I set it at 5 seconds, and I got outbid by another person using a bid sniper. I set my bid time to 5 secs, the other guy musthave set his at 2 secs.

geeeez:|:|:|

EDIT: Now I'm happy that I lost that auction becuase I found a better laptop in the local classified ads for a VERY good deal (HP P3 1.2Ghz, 512, 15.1" screen, DVD/CD-RW, LOADED for $900.00). So, in summery, hoo ray for loosing!
 

geoff2k

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Somebody is going to write a paper someday on the psychology of auction sniping. I've gone through exactly the same thing -- being completely pissed that I've lost an auction for $5 because somebody out-sniped me. Well if I was willing to pay the extra $5, why didn't I do it to begin with???

I guess it's nice to live in an era where we all have enough disposable income to have quandaries like this...
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: geoff2k
Somebody is going to write a paper someday on the psychology of auction sniping. I've gone through exactly the same thing -- being completely pissed that I've lost an auction for $5 because somebody out-sniped me. Well if I was willing to pay the extra $5, why didn't I do it to begin with???
If I was still in school, I'd consider doing so, since it's one of my pet peeves. If everyone decided in advance EXACTLY how much they wanted to pay, then the "timing" of the bid would be irrelevant.
The only reason I snipe is because it separates me from the bidding frenzy. I see an item, I decide how much I want to pay, I put in my esnipe account, and then if I win, I win, if I don't it's because someone was willing to pay more.


 

pulse8

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buahahahaha...He sniped your snipe!?!

Why not just set it to 1 second or half a second if possible?
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: pulse8
buahahahaha...He sniped your snipe!?!

Why not just set it to 1 second or half a second if possible?

Assuming he still set the same price it wouldn't matter if his bid came before or after the guy who won. The only thing that can save you is a higher bid.
 

MrHappyMonkey

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Originally posted by: pulse8
buahahahaha...He sniped your snipe!?!

Why not just set it to 1 second or half a second if possible?

well... i just tried sniper another auction. I set the sniper to bid at 3 seconds, but the sniper never bid :| I guess 5 seconds is the limit.
 

Jzero

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You need a better sniper! Esnipe.com will do up to 1 sec. The catch is that there is no guarantee a lag won't occur and you'll miss the boat.
5 seconds is a pretty decent leeway. Remember, even if someone bids after you, they can only win if they bid HIGHER. The onus is on you to pick your price correctly. If you do so, then sniping becomes irrelevant and anyone who outbids you paid more than you think it's worth.
 

MrHappyMonkey

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Originally posted by: Jzero
You need a better sniper! Esnipe.com will do up to 1 sec. The catch is that there is no guarantee a lag won't occur and you'll miss the boat.
5 seconds is a pretty decent leeway. Remember, even if someone bids after you, they can only win if they bid HIGHER. The onus is on you to pick your price correctly. If you do so, then sniping becomes irrelevant and anyone who outbids you paid more than you think it's worth.

true, but if I bid $1200, and somebody outbids me by $1210, i'd be mad. Sometimes you don't know how much you're willing to pay until the last 20 secs.
 

Jzero

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true, but if I bid $1200, and somebody outbids me by $1210, i'd be mad. Sometimes you don't know how much you're willing to pay until the last 20 secs.

Listen and heed my wise words:
In a bidding war between 2 people, you will always be beaten out by the bid increment.
This means that in an auction of less than $150 you will ALWAYS appear to have lost by $1. Deciding how much you're willing to pay in the last 20 seconds is for suckers. That mentality is what makes people stupid enough to pay more than retail for something on Ebay--they keep upping their bid in the last minutes thinking "Oh, it's just one more dollar," and 2 minutes later they just paid more for some used crap than they could have got new by just walking over to Best Buy.
You must decide how much you are willing to pay IN ADVANCE. Consider the scenario in your mind of what you would do at the last minutes of the auction if someone started bidding you up. When do you draw the line? Decide NOW and make that your maximum bid and save yourself all this aggravation.

Refer to my sig. Ebay really isn't complicated if you allow yourself to understand it's very simple mechanics.

Case-in-point. This week I wanted to buy an item, a series of 5 matted and framed photographs, signed by the photographer. The current bid was $60. I decided as much as I like it, I was unwilling to pay more than about $100, including shipping. The auction said $8 shipping, and I wanted to give myself a little wiggle room (never bid round numbers) so I bid $93.62--I'd pay around $101 including shipping.
I set that in my sniper. I ended up winning, but had I lost because someone else bid more, I'd not fret--they overpaid.

Pick your maximum bid now, grasshopper. Resist the urge to up it later.
 

T2T III

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Sometimes you don't know how much you're willing to pay until the last 20 secs.
Yeah, but if you take the typical "Ebay mentality" into the equation, this is pretty simble to determine up-front when setting up your sniper.

Ebay mentality = To purchase an item, take the retail price of that item and mark it up by 20%.











 

PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: wje
Sometimes you don't know how much you're willing to pay until the last 20 secs.
Yeah, but if you take the typical "Ebay mentality" into the equation, this is pretty simble to determine up-front when setting up your sniper.

Ebay mentality = To purchase an item, take the retail price of that item and mark it up by 20%.

Wje, that is true in some cases, but it is wrong to use it as a generalization.

If I got 20% over retail pricing, I wouldnt be posting right now. I'd be out of my parents house and in my own.

-PAB
 

Parn

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Is there any fees to auctionsniper? and do you get anything if i enter your info for the person who referred me?
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Parn
Is there any fees to auctionsniper? and do you get anything if i enter your info for the person who referred me?

Auctionsniper, I believe, charges 1% on your winning bid (but not your maximum bid). I don't use auctionsniper, I use esnipe.com. Esnipe requires you to buy points in advance which are very cheap (a penny each or something) and there is a schedule of points based on the winning bid, and couple extra points for various other conditions. The only reason I use esnipe over auctionsniper is simply b/c I learned about esnipe first.

You can also go to AuctionStealer which remains completely free thus far.

Don't be fooled by the name--sniping won't magically win you auctions at a low price. You still have to beat out the high bidder.
 

Murphyrulez

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I must be confused. How does it make a difference if you bid at 5 seconds and he bid at 2 seconds? If he bid $40 at 10 seconds, and you bid $38 at 5 seconds, you still would lose. If he bid $40 at 60 seconds, and you bid $38 at 3 seconds, you would lose.

IT MATTERS NOT when you place your bid, as long as you bid your max.
 

Azraele

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Let me get this straight. It's ok for you to snipe, but it's not ok for other people??
 

Jzero

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IT MATTERS NOT when you place your bid, as long as you bid your max.

Cookie for Murphyrulez, he gets it!
See my sig if you're still confused.
Azraele, not sure who you're referring to, I don't think anyone in this particular thread has claimed that they should be allowed to snipe and not others.
The OP was a rant that he was outsniped.
But the real problem is he just plain got outbid, not outsniped.
 

Parn

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I understand that if I'm not willing to pay as much as someone else, I won't win. But the beauty of not having to be there when the auction ends.... now that is great. I just set my max bid, walk away, and get a notice if I won. GOOD IDEA.
 
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