AnandThenMan
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So you agree it is very poor form for Nvidia to try and get away with a move like this as you put it.But honestly I could see nvidia getting away with a move like this.
So you agree it is very poor form for Nvidia to try and get away with a move like this as you put it.But honestly I could see nvidia getting away with a move like this.
If nvidia doesn't want to invest time in updating their site and instead want to push drivers via a software solution that's their own prerogative. I really think it's a pretty efficient way of driver dissemination. If amd did the same and had a polished raptr experience , I'd just do it.... Its a pretty great package for a 1 time email big deal. Most people here are already using it anyway.So you agree it is very poor form for Nvidia to try and get away with a move like this as you put it.
They have to "spend time" pushing the driver out no matter the method so I don't know what you are trying to get at here. And why do you even care what is easier for Nvidia don't you care what is better for end users? You've stated about 10 different ways how this is "not so bad" even though you characterize it as Nvidia getting away with something. I get it you don't care about choice, but consider others do.If nvidia doesn't want to invest time in updating their site and instead want to push drivers via a software solution that's their own prerogative.
That's not the issue, it is forcing people to use a piece of bloatware to get a driver.I really think it's a pretty efficient way of driver dissemination.
For now. Who knows what else Nvidia will try to force on their users once they become forcibly dependent on GFE. What's next, not allowing users to control game settings?It doesn't auto update your drivers it let's you update through the interface if you choose to.
Then use it. Many users like control of their systems.Sounds highly convenient to me.
What sort of info are they wanting to register you for this "account"? At this point, I have/have had to register for so many effing "accounts" I couldn't count them all if I tried. The user IDs or email addresses are one of a small handful of variations I use for pretty much everything, and unless they have financial info or my SSN, they have mindlessly simple, totally non-random passwords :biggrin: created from the website/organization's name and a "super-secret" suffix whiste, that would be really easy to brute-force (or for that matter, simply guess) if anyone cared enough to do so (but seriously, no one does...) As long as they don't want a credit card or your social security number, what do you realistically have to lose that someone who wanted it couldn't find out with some slightly serious Googling anyway?i can't say having another account that can have personal information stolen is all that appealing.
What sort of info are they wanting to register you for this "account"? At this point, I have/have had to register for so many effing "accounts" I couldn't count them all if I tried. The user IDs or email addresses are one of a small handful of variations I use for pretty much everything, and unless they have financial info or my SSN, they have mindless passwords created from the website/organization's name, that would be really easy to brute-force (or for that matter, simply guess) if anyone cared enough to do so (but realistically, no one does.) As long as they don't want a credit card or your social security number, what do you realistically have to lose that someone who wanted it couldn't find out with some slightly serious Googling anyway?
What sort of info are they wanting to register you for this "account"? At this point, I have/have had to register for so many effing "accounts" I couldn't count them all if I tried. The user IDs or email addresses are one of a small handful of variations I use for pretty much everything, and unless they have financial info or my SSN, they have mindless passwords created from the website/organization's name, that would be really easy to brute-force (or for that matter, simply guess) if anyone cared enough to do so (but realistically, no one does.) As long as they don't want a credit card or your social security number, what do you realistically have to lose that someone who wanted it couldn't find out with some slightly serious Googling anyway?
So the people who are arguing in favor of this really believe this is just about Nvidia trying to get it's install base's email addresses and deliver a better experience by forcing its customers to use a locked down driver update ecosystem?
That's a pretty a naive pitch (with a straight face) to a bunch of techies , and young gamers who may or may not get the business side of things... Lol
Give it up. There were quite a few pissed off GTX 970 owners, too. Many even returned their cards for refunds after they discovered they'd been lied to about its specs by Nvidia.Just like the whole gtx 970 thing. The people who are loudest against this will also not be nvidia card owners
No matter how they spin it, removing choice is stupid and bad practice. Above all else, it simply boils down to that.
GFE is good for noobies, it optimizes games on a touch of a button, it offers driver upgrades without the need of looking for the latest version and (for now) doesn't cost a thing.
For more advanced users it might not be such a good thing because sometimes the latest driver is not necessarily the best for the game we're playing at the moment and waiting for the next driver release before you can enjoy your gaming might turn you off big time. This is taking most of the control we have now.
It didn't stop the gtx 970 from being the most used graphics card on steam. So sure there are a few loud people who will return their cards or whatever. I never disputed that.Give it up. There were quite a few pissed off GTX 970 owners, too. Many even returned their cards for refunds after they discovered they'd been lied to about its specs by Nvidia.
I don't use Raptr and I wouldn't use GFE. All I need is the ability to choose what driver I want to install and when I want to install it. I fail to see why the downloading of a driver would require an email address.
Yes you did.So sure there are a few loud people who will return their cards or whatever. I never disputed that.
The people who are loudest against this [970 thing] will also not be nvidia card owners
That says the people who are loudest will be non nvidia owners. It doesn't say that people who are nvidia owners will not be upset.Yes you did.
Even saw people returning their GTX970, only to buy it again.
GTX970 is king on steam, says it all.